Yep, it looks to happen when there is lots of alpha transparencies on screen (and thus is the domain of the ROPs).
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GiantBomb - TitanFall framerate in mech combat is not fixed in Xbox One retail code
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Yep, it looks to happen when there is lots of alpha transparencies on screen (and thus is the domain of the ROPs).
NemesisPrime
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That salt.
Not good framerate in extreme case exceptions? Keep Up the good fight.
Not good framerate in extreme case exceptions? Keep Up the good fight.
Multiple titans on screen = extreme case exceptions?
You know, for a game named Titanfall, it should not be chugging with titans.
TangoAlphaLima
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While most of the talk has been about single digit frames per second, I think the more prevalent problem with the X1 Titanfall is screen tearing.
I agree. I played the beta extensively. Drops in frame rate were VERY occasional. It never became unplayable for me on Xbox One. For the most part it was extremely smooth and very playable.
I think a lot of people on here are just re-iterating what the odd person has witnessed occasionally and treating it as if it happens all the time in every game. That is simply not true.
One thing I will say. This is one of the 'busiest' games I have seen on any system. By busy I mean a lot of action going on, on-screen at any one time. Probably the most 'action' in a game so far this new generation.
Let's not forget - even the PS4 has not delivered a consistent 60fps in ANY of its games thus far.
In fact the closest consistent 60fps seen so far goes to an Xbox One title as far as I can tell - Forza 5.
SteveWinwood
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It's not even fun to make fun of Gies anymore. It's too easy.
Isn't the consensus that with multiple titans on screen at once it is 30 FPS rather than 60?
NemesisPrime
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You obviously did not play the beta.
Iorv3th
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Care to elaborate?
TangoAlphaLima
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No, I did not. Are you saying the frame droppage is worse than the screen tearing? Cause that's not what I've seen others report.
Hence "not good framerate", which was said in the post I quoted.
If Call of Duty on 360 regularly dropped to 30FPS there would have been riots in the streets because that game lives and breathes off of it's framerate and controls.
I think its more about how a game running in 792p that looks almost like a last gen game can't run at a stable 60fps during the moments that people were most excited for; titan piloting.
Edit: I was always going to get this for PC so it doesn't affect me. I'm sure there are plenty of people who have an X1 and don't care and that's fine. The game is fun. Just not sure why you're so offended some people aren't happy about the framerate.
Various Artists
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What about strider and resogun.
reptilescorpio
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In an MP only title that's borderline unacceptable.
It's called Titanfall, dude. Not Titansfall
uncledonnie
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Could be applied to so many of these posts. I would love to know how many of you tolerated playing CoD or Killzone SF.
Certainly explains why the player count is so paltry.
SneakyStephan
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what about all those times it drops to 30-40 fps and there's frameskipping because of it? What about all the times it drops below 30 fps?
conveniently ignore those
Apparently Resogun, FIFA, NBA, flower etc. are not games.
Hey now, next gen AI bots make up for that.
Various Artists
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Either I am misunderstanding you or you are being naive. I can't post gifs because I'm on the train but I'm sure if you did a 10 second search you could find them.It's busy too.
I don't know what you're talking about.
SneakyStephan
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hadn't thought of that
the maps always felt empty in the beta and the bots were a really poor substitute to players
if multiple titans make the framerate drop more players probably meant that scenario would happen exponentially much more often
then again why couldn't they just remove the dumb smoke , surely the framerate is worth more than the effects (and while they're at it remove the chromatic abberation, desaturation , static effect and all the other crap that makes it way too hard to see what is going on while in a titan, in a supposedly competitive game you want visibility and good contrast between enemy and background, not visual vomit)
Green Yoshi
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PS3 was the lead platform until the deal with Microsoft, so it should run fine on Xbox 360.
Khalifa Jayy
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(MoreThanOne)Titan(OnScreenCausesTheFramerateTo)Fall. ;P
Let's put one thing straight. I think Titanfall is a good game, and I don't want to downplay its achievements regarding gameplay. But. I think the most fascinating of this whole resolution debacle are these facts:
-from the very first moments of development, 60 FPS was the top priority
-it was developed for two platforms by Respawn (the X360 version being made by Bluepoint)
-they probably had whatever resource they needed... (extra number of programmers etc..)
-...and they probably always got latest SDKs ahead everyone else (given the importance of the game for MS)
So to simplify. They had a clear performance goal, everything was secondary, they had the abundance of resources (time being the only really questionable one), and yet an important project like this not only didn't manage to achieve steady 60 fps, but also looks dated and runs at a low resolution.
I think this is pretty telling.
-from the very first moments of development, 60 FPS was the top priority
-it was developed for two platforms by Respawn (the X360 version being made by Bluepoint)
-they probably had whatever resource they needed... (extra number of programmers etc..)
-...and they probably always got latest SDKs ahead everyone else (given the importance of the game for MS)
So to simplify. They had a clear performance goal, everything was secondary, they had the abundance of resources (time being the only really questionable one), and yet an important project like this not only didn't manage to achieve steady 60 fps, but also looks dated and runs at a low resolution.
I think this is pretty telling.
Telling of what though?
I think a lot of people are laying this on the XBO, and I really don't think that's the case. This game isn't even vaguely too demanding for the system, something else has gone wrong here.
Metalingus5150
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Perhaps they just needed more time.
This is great.
tfur
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The design limitations of the Xbone are going to present themselves until end of life of the product.
It is what it is.
Well at this point I think it has something to do with either the immature development tools or something to do with, for example Source engine performing horribly on the platform. However I can't help not to think about hardware limits as well.
In the end, it is probably the result of a mix of the above.
Yup even ignoring if it drops to single digits or not, that fact that it is well known to drop 20-30 fps in big Titan battles is unacceptable.
Especially considering how 'dated' the game looks and how performance was suppose to be the most important thing to Redpawn during development, and all Respawn have to talk about for post release patches is about resolution and not performance?
Yes. This is an interesting way to think about it. But why the hell did they go with 792p then?
TangoAlphaLima
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It's gotta be one of three things, and most likely it's a combination of all three: the Xbox One itself, Respawn, or the Xbox One's SDKs.
I don't know that we can give Respawn a complete pass on this, but they're definitely a talented group, so I won't lay all the blame on them. We've heard from devs that the Microsoft SDKs for the X1 are a problem, so that could be a major component. We know the X1 is less powerful than the PS4, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be able to run a game like Titanfall well.
If the game runs as good as the beta I will be happy. The most important thing is the game is a blast to play.
I also own the PS4 and have nothing to play on the system right now tried Killzone and the game just was not fun to play and the 1080p / 60fps they claimed was BS but that didn't even matter if the multiplayer was fun but it's not.
I also own the PS4 and have nothing to play on the system right now tried Killzone and the game just was not fun to play and the 1080p / 60fps they claimed was BS but that didn't even matter if the multiplayer was fun but it's not.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Remember when Thief for PS4 had single digit frame rate before they confirmed its not? Good times.
As bad as this sounds, I'll wait for Digital Foundry or an actual analysis, but I'm sure Giant Bomb isn't as incompetent as that WordPress banned blogger.
As bad as this sounds, I'll wait for Digital Foundry or an actual analysis, but I'm sure Giant Bomb isn't as incompetent as that WordPress banned blogger.
Dunno. MS forcing the highest possible framrate maybe? I don't think so, but I can't rule out that possibility either.
Maybe MS wanted Titanfall to be a sword in a battle it never even meant to be participating in?
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Calling one digits without an actual analysis is indeed a bit too much.
It doesn't even matter about the drops to single digit fps, the fact that one of the major gameplay features, Titans, cause 20-30 fps drops is not acceptable.
This is from "performance is paramount" Respawn.
Papacheeks
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I'm calling it, it was pushed to make Launch window.
The game went from trade shows which were showing Pre-alpha builds that were running on PC's. To what they called a closed alpha, to the Beta which I played, then to release.
With the issues they are having sounds like they rushed Optimization, instead of pleading with EA and MS for another couple months to polish everything. ANd maybe use the new features that recently MS was touting in an update to developer's.
The gameplay is awesome and polished, but the assets seems to have optimization issues, when there is a lot going on, mainly titans all on screen and all the effects that encompass.
From what people like Giantbomb were saying about how much is in the game, from issues with servers, to the bad frame rates, sounds like the engine along with MS driver/SKD updates needed more time in the oven.
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