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[JesseEwiak]

However, Obama is very likeable and is an amazing campaigner. Hillary has scandals, isn't liked that much. and isn't the best campaigner.

Basically Hillary won't fire up the base like Obama did.

If she actually had anyone decent challenging her in the primary, she would probably lose again.

Hillary still has an 80% approval rating among liberal Democrat's. The actual Democratic coalition (minorities, working class women, etc.) still love Hillary. It's largely white dudes who whine on the Internet about every Democratic candidate are of course, upset with her. But, it's the same people who think Obama is a corporate sellout as he continues to have 85% approval among liberal Democrats.

 

[Fracas]

Will watch purely for Trump.

How do you out-debate someone that doesn't feel shame and has no boundaries? Does Trump even have a real political platform to attack?

 

[Rubenov]

But if he becomes the candidate, wont he be destroyed in the 1v1 debates with the democrats? since he has no real politcal experience?

Political experience can become secondary to strong debate skills and a mastery of zing lines

 

[The Lamp]

Someone please make a bingo card for this.

 

[Hobbestetrician]

I know everyone finds all the quotes in the OP to be hilarious and will be tuning in ready to laugh at the ridiculousness that will be on display but, damn man, I just can't find any of this funny in the slightest. Scares me and makes me sad.

 

[speculawyer]

I know everyone finds all the quotes in the OP to be hilarious and will be tuning in ready to laugh at the ridiculousness that will be on display but, damn man, I just can't find any of this funny in the slightest. Scares me and makes me sad.

Focus on the fact that none of them will become president.

But it is still really sad that we lack sane choices.

 

[Operations]

Will watch purely for Trump.

How do you out-debate someone that doesn't feel shame and has no boundaries? Does Trump even have a real political platform to attack?

Only way to attack him will be through massive Gish Gallops, where Huckabee and Cruz excel.

 

[Hobbestetrician]

Focus on the fact that none of them will become president.

But it is still really sad that we lack sane choices.

That is what I keep telling myself. I just really don't like the fact that it is something I will have to sweat out for another year.

 

[dabig2]

I know everyone finds all the quotes in the OP to be hilarious and will be tuning in ready to laugh at the ridiculousness that will be on display but, damn man, I just can't find any of this funny in the slightest. Scares me and makes me sad.

It's hard not to be completely sardonic about it all. But, optimism helps soothe some of it. Like the optimism that the country will hopefully move more progressive and demographics will change to spur that on and that these guys time in the sun is waning.

I mean, I pray to whatever god exist that our children one day don't look at us like we look at baby boomers. They don't ask "how in the living hell did you let these nutjobs gain even more power during your prime and golden years?". Makes me not want to have kids in whatever fucked up society we gift them due to our decisions today.

 

[Suikoguy]

Someone please make a bingo card for this.

I saw this one posted elsewhere:

 

[xbhaskarx]

I hope they ask Rand Paul about this: Three Top Rand Paul Associates Were Just Indicted

 

[Black Republican]

honestly the debate's gonna dissapoint, Trump wont say anything over the top, he aint stupid

 

[Jackpot]

honestly the debate's gonna dissapoint, Trump wont say anything over the top, he aint stupid

I think the opposite. Trump will grandstand and everyone else will focus on slating Trump instead of each other.

 

[Log4Girlz]

honestly the debate's gonna dissapoint, Trump wont say anything over the top, he aint stupid

Hahaha

 

[massoluk]

Serious question: what is wrong with Scott Walker? Is he as stupid as he acts?

Scoffing at the idea of having a minimum wage for workers as a way to help workers. Lmao, ok. It's logical and demonstrably true, so what the hell is he talking about?

He also has the honor of the being the candidate with a NEGATIVE net worth of $72.5k.

http://www.businessinsider.com/scot...s-of-dollars-worth-of-credit-card-debt-2015-8
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...QCaDKfD5pPWI/igraphic.html?p1=Article_Graphic

 

[Oppo]

Will watch purely for Trump.

How do you out-debate someone that doesn't feel shame and has no boundaries? Does Trump even have a real political platform to attack?

you can't. see: Rob Ford

it's like the Chewbacca Defense combined with a healthy dose of Fuck Everybody

 

[Arkeband]

I fully expect Trump to up-end the entire thing.

I'm not crazy enough to think he's a Trojan horse, but I'm also not crazy enough to think he's going to suddenly behave himself.

This is going to be a legit douche-off.

 

[Orbis Tabula]

The thing is, while Fox might throw everyone softballs, Trump could easily play the role of aggressive moderator and call out the other candidates on their bullshit. That's the real reason I want to watch this. I don't care to much about Trump's answers, I'm just hoping that he stirs the shit.

 

[gutter_trash]

can't wait

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Focus on the fact that none of them will become president.

But it is still really sad that we lack sane choices.

Effectively, for the near political future, the Democratic primary *is* the presidential election.

#votesanders

 

[HylianTom]

How do you out-debate someone that doesn't feel shame and has no boundaries? Does Trump even have a real political platform to attack?

That's what I'm wondering. Trump is like one of those high-level jelly enemies from old-school RPGs: typical attacks won't touch it - you can swing your sword at it all you want and nothing will register - so you have to have some high-level magic to inflict any damage.

 

[Paskil]

That's what I'm wondering. Trump is like one of those high-level jelly enemies from old-school RPGs: typical attacks won't touch it - you can swing your sword at it all you want and nothing will register - so you have to have some high-level magic to inflict any damage.

"Huckabee uses Religion on Trump. It's super effective."

 

[HylianTom]

"Huckabee uses Religion on Trump. It's super effective."

This is what I love about politics-GAF! Nowhere else could I have made that joke comparison, lol..

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Any Europeans staying up for this? Should we even...?

I haven't been following the situation closely, but it seems pointless to waste time attacking Trump. If I were a candidate I would focus on things I want to do to make the country better.

 

[tanooki27]

Any Europeans staying up for this? Should we even...?

only if you can be stoned

 

[BlackGhost]

honestly the debate's gonna dissapoint, Trump wont say anything over the top, he aint stupid

Trump can't help himself, he has to insult someone.

 

[Euron]

Hillary still has an 80% approval rating among liberal Democrat's. The actual Democratic coalition (minorities, working class women, etc.) still love Hillary. It's largely white dudes who whine on the Internet about every Democratic candidate are of course, upset with her. But, it's the same people who think Obama is a corporate sellout as he continues to have 85% approval among liberal Democrats.

I really wish these people would watch a few of Bernie's speeches. It's a night and day difference between him and Hillary.

And as for the debate, Trump probably realizes that if he DOESN'T act like an a-hole to everyone and say a bunch of stupid things then he will go down in the polls.

 

[JDSN]

The thing I love the most is how Chris Chtistie has nothing to offer, his whole thing was that he is an asshole that "tells it like it is" but Trump is doing that so much better an in a way that feels genuine compared to that sleazy corrupt bully fuck.

 

[Pandora012]

From the other thread. Needs to be in the OP.

Cannot wait for tomorrow.

I fear that I might die from alcohol poisoning.

 

[CreeperBlocks]

can't wait

I wish Vince McMahon ran instead

 

[The Lamonster]

As far as video game systems go - is the Fox News app only on Xbox 360 or is it on Xbox One as well?

I don't have cable but I have all the consoles and my parents' cable TV login credentials.

 

[oti]

Oh no it's at 3AM over here.

Spoiler

Thanks, Obama.

 

[Kysen]

What time BST is this on?

 

[Saya]

I wonder if i can catch this live on tv somewhere. Would be fun.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

I wish Vince McMahon ran instead

His wife lost twice though

 

[Black Republican]

i know a msnbc live link if anyone wants it. not sure if i can post it here though

 

[Cub3h]

This should be hilarious(ly sad). I remember lurking here for the 2008 and 2012 primaries and it was such good fun.

 

[Pilgrimzero]

Is this not being broadcast on tv? Checking TV Guide they still show FOX as showing Bones and their normal programming...

 

[B-Dubs]

i know a msnbc live link if anyone wants it. not sure if i can post it here though

Is the link legal? Or just PM it to me and I'll check it out, if it's legit I throw it in the OP.

Is this not being broadcast on tv? Checking TV Guide they still show FOX as showing Bones and their normal programming...

FOX News, the 24-hour cable channel.

 

[Jezbollah]

For UKers this is going to be shown live on Sky News (Sky channel 501, Freeview channel 132) tomorrow morning at 2am.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Ugh is Megyn Kelly really the moderator?

I'm going to need more PBR.

 

[Pilgrimzero]

Is the link legal? Or just PM it to me and I'll check it out, if it's legit I throw it in the OP.



FOX News, the 24-hour cable channel.

I don't have cable tv, Oh well have to stream it I guess.

 

[B-Dubs]

I don't have cable tv, Oh well have to stream it I guess.

It should be on their website, I'll be updating the OP when they put it up and someone sends me a link (I'll be out for most of the day).

 

[Veritigo_X]

Ugh is Megyn Kelly really the moderator?

I'm going to need more PBR.

That's the cherry on top of this whole mess. It makes the debate more of a joke than it already was.

 

[AndyD]

Ugh is Megyn Kelly really the moderator?

I'm going to need more PBR.

Wait really? Really?

 

[HylianTom]

Cross-posted from PoliGAF: the Hillary camp has released its preview video for the debate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=635qcb1Viuk

Pretty slick, I'd say. Her messaging team is on-point. And we're only at the start of August.. imagine the material they'll have by February!

 

[Pilgrimzero]

It should be on their website, I'll be updating the OP when they put it up and someone sends me a link (I'll be out for most of the day).

Any chance there will be a way to stream on the PS3? Youtube app or something? Was going to watch it with my wife but so far it looking like having to watch it on my laptop alone.

Kind of funny they did it this way, like they don't want people to watch it.

 

[Fenderputty]

Cross-posted from PoliGAF: the Hillary camp has released its preview video for the debate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=635qcb1Viuk

Pretty slick, I'd say. Her messaging team is on-point. And we're only at the start of August.. imagine the material they'll have by February!

That's really good. After tonight they'll have more too.

 

[gutter_trash]

His wife lost twice though

 

[Veritigo_X]

What's the "Iowa 2016" in the thread title? This debate is in Cleveland. There's probably a joke going over my head.