Diablo Rosso
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Laguna Seca is the exact same one from GT4. First thing I noticed about it was the grass.
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Gran Turismo 6 Coming on PS3 Holiday 2013
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Laguna Seca is the exact same one from GT4. First thing I noticed about it was the grass.
MrCookiepants
Member
What I don't get is if they were gonna use so many PS2 tracks, why not use all of them? Seattle, El Capitan etc
Metalmurphy
Member
What I don't get is if they were gonna use so many PS2 tracks, why not use all of them? Seattle, El Capitan etc
They're not 1:1 copies. They have improvements, they just weren't good enough.
SolidSnakex
Member
I think the GT6 version of Autumn Ring is a good example of how they can take a GT4 track and touch it up enough that it looks perfectly fine within the game. At least from what we've seen of it.
QFT.
At least we have seen from the Autum Ring comparison that they're at least retouching them.
But considering that just 7 tracks will be new they should have remade them from scratch....
Goldrusher
Member
Yep.
A little more depth in the background goes a long way.
Throw in the lower and warmer lighting, and boom, a completely different track and worthy of being called "Autumn Ring".
The old one looked like a "Forgot to Water in Summer Ring".
GT5/GT4 Autumn Ring:
GT6 Autumn Ring:
Metalmurphy
Member
Also the time of day is different. I hope that means we're getting a day night cycle on it.
BloodMoney
Banned
Autumn Ring actually looks to be Autumn now (warm glow on the trees, more vibrant leaf color, etc).
Hopefully although it would be a weird choice since it seems we may still have a bunch of tracks without ToD changes. Just speculation of course but Grand Valley and SSR5 looked to be sporting the same lighting as GT5.
Speaking off SSR5 I hope the new HDR implementation gives us some really nice sexy nightime feels.
Something like this where you really feel the darkness although obviously not as extreme as this since it's super high contrast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1O0XV-2Djc
as opposed to this which looks pretty flat although again this is an extreme since SSR5 looks much better than that on my setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZsLFPEWr2M
I know it is blasphemy, but all SS courses should finally come in day variants (daytime change even better).
In GT2 those tracks were set-up at very dusk period and there was sunlight stripe at the reverse horizon. Also, flourescent (blue) balance was better then current street bulb (yellow).. although yellow is more accurate, I concur. And GT3 wet version of SS5 was damn beautiful.
And lastly, original GT1 version of SSR11 with underpass chicane should return, GT4 overpass version is nice but it lacks the main characteristic of the course.
There are only 2 courses from GT1 that are not present in GT5, original normal Test Track oval and SSR11. Both should return ASAP. SSRX is beautiful but useless and SSR11 is the most iconic night course of the series (with Rome Night as runner-up).
In GT2 those tracks were set-up at very dusk period and there was sunlight stripe at the reverse horizon. Also, flourescent (blue) balance was better then current street bulb (yellow).. although yellow is more accurate, I concur. And GT3 wet version of SS5 was damn beautiful.
And lastly, original GT1 version of SSR11 with underpass chicane should return, GT4 overpass version is nice but it lacks the main characteristic of the course.
There are only 2 courses from GT1 that are not present in GT5, original normal Test Track oval and SSR11. Both should return ASAP. SSRX is beautiful but useless and SSR11 is the most iconic night course of the series (with Rome Night as runner-up).
travisbickle
Member
I see the difference in those shots, but when I was playing I was impressed by all the tracks. Next gen is going to blow me away, isn't it?
Red Blaster
Member
nice to see they've added premium trees to autumn ring
and complex string needs to come back already
and complex string needs to come back already
SolidSnakex
Member
I don't know why they don't bring that back. Of all the GT tracks it's the most simplistic in terms of visuals. Just update the trees surrounding the track and the pit area and it's good to go.
Exactly. They dont have to rebuild them from scratch (although that would be nice). Just polish them a bit, add some better textures here and there...
As goldrusher said, the worst offender are the cardboard textures.
Red Blaster
Member
has kaz hinted on the robustness of the single player yet, gt6 needs to be packed with events; i need gt4 level at minimum
i know he mentioned soon after gt5 launched that he wished there were more a-spec events and that seasonals were kind of a band-aid to fix that.
i know he mentioned soon after gt5 launched that he wished there were more a-spec events and that seasonals were kind of a band-aid to fix that.
Gouda Jouji
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Pic from Lucas Ordonez. He tweeted it last week but it seems it slipped under the radar. Shame we probably won't get that kind of telemetry in the retail version.
Pic from Lucas Ordonez. He tweeted it last week but it seems it slipped under the radar. Shame we probably won't get that kind of telemetry in the retail version.
It would be nice if they finally understood what information should be on the screen and which shouldn't.
AstroNut325
Member
Pic from Lucas Ordonez. He tweeted it last week but it seems it slipped under the radar. Shame we probably won't get that kind of telemetry in the retail version.
Looks very clean and improved upon from GT5. Nice.
brotkasten
Member
How unreasonable is it to expect different lighting conditions for all tracks? I don't necessarily need a 24h cycle, but driving all tracks during the night or day should be possible.
SolidSnakex
Member
I really wouldn't expect it. I think we could see them just change the time of day that we've normally driven on tracks. That's what they seem to have done with Autumn Ring. But then again, maybe they will do time of day selection for all tracks. It'd be very interesting, especially since many of their original tracks were clearly never designed to be driven at night as they don't have any sort of light sources around the tracks. So you'd need your headlights at all times.
brotkasten
Member
I'd accept a track like Fujimi Kaido (incl night version) as an alternative. I know people screamed "STELVIO PASS CONFIRMED" during the GT5 pre-release hype, but that never happened.
One thing they must must include in GT6 is gap between cars in front and behind. It's mind blowing how they still only show the gap between you and the leader, or if you are leading then 2nd place man.
Races would be that much more interesting online seeing someone eat hundreths out of your gap each lap.
Saying that I have no hope they will include it.
Races would be that much more interesting online seeing someone eat hundreths out of your gap each lap.
Saying that I have no hope they will include it.
Gouda Jouji
Member
Does anyone know what this is? Is it the new ASM icon?
Does anyone know what this is? Is it the new ASM icon?
On my car (Subaru STI) that is the icon for TCS.
Ironically, when I turn it off... it turns green!
Does anyone know what this is? Is it the new ASM icon?
Traction Control System (TCS) icon.
More GT6 footage from 15th anniversary event incoming:
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8496063#post8496063
Jordan also confirmed "Oh, and I did some smoke tests - there was no pixelation.". PD really pushed their engine A LOT - I clearly remember all that talk, that GT5 pixelated smoke/water spray is because PS3 hardware shortcomings and that it`s unavoidable (RSX characteristic). PDmagic strikes again?
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8496063#post8496063
Jordan also confirmed "Oh, and I did some smoke tests - there was no pixelation.". PD really pushed their engine A LOT - I clearly remember all that talk, that GT5 pixelated smoke/water spray is because PS3 hardware shortcomings and that it`s unavoidable (RSX characteristic). PDmagic strikes again?
Graphics Horse
Member
Still waiting for that track :/ Not that it was ever Stelvio Pass, it was another Eiger track. The lower mountains along the back straight were visible, as was the Grindelwald valley.
From the sounds of it, some of the 19 new layouts must be additions to existing GT5 tracks, but I'm not getting my hopes up for that particular one.
The pixelation itself is no sort of gpu characteristic, it's just down to the method they used to draw lots of smoke very efficiently. There are ways to tidy it up, at a cost.
There's a lot of tunnels in Grand Valley so it would work
I think there's only street lights near and on the bridge section though. Edit: looks like there's some kind of lights occasionally elsewhere and I think those are big floodlights on the main straight?velociraptor
Junior Member
Day/Night/Dusk/Dawn for all tracks please.
And please do not give me GT5's unrealistic 2 minute sunrises and sunsets.
I don't care much for real time changes, but I would at least love an option for all tracks. I don't think it should be that difficult to implement...
Metalmurphy
Member
Erm... that's up to you to decide. If you want it realistic set they time change to 1:1
Well to be fair that's only possible online or in practice. In career you're stuck with the setting they picked for you.
Metalmurphy
Member
There's no time change in career besides the endurances, which use 1:1
There's the Lambo Special Event though, that one is not 1:1
Oh man, that still gives me nightmares. I could not see shit.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Daytime looks too bright in GT5. Night time looks too dark.
GT3 and GT4 had the perfect balance.
I think both night time and day looks good, the problem with the lambo event was that the head lights mostly didn't illuminate the road...
Is it wrong that I'm impressed by leaves on the side of the track? I love leaves, grass, dust, wind, rain, clouds, lightning. This is stuff i crave in sims.
I'd love nothing more than to turn a corner and all of a sudden I can't see an timing because its dusty and I'm driving into the sun.
I'd love nothing more than to turn a corner and all of a sudden I can't see an timing because its dusty and I'm driving into the sun.
Does anyone know what this is? Is it the new ASM icon?
It could also be ESC/ESP or maybe both like it is on some cars.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Holy shit.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
I thought they lowered the resolution of the effects to cram more in rather than it ever being a hardware quirk.
?? what are you trying to show ?
Betta Lines
Member
I think he's trying to show that the cockpit shadows are too dark.
And the answer is yes they have, due to enhanced HDR.
And the answer is yes they have, due to enhanced HDR.
parappatherapper
Member
Isn't it more that effect across the screen from the smoke?
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Dithering in the dark areas
Yeap. 50x more dynamic range according to Kaz, so I'd imagine it'd be sorted.