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My favorite is when my team is down and the only way for us to live and come back is to crossmap the enemy team but oh wait there's no weapons on the map so now we have no ammo. :|
Hey but things like joining a terrible game in progress and getting spawnfucked by an enemy team who got better drops than you doesn't happen THAT much so it doesn't matter stop complaining

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lol, damn you guys are relentless with shitting on this game.
Yeah. It makes this thread nearly unbearable and it'd hard to see reason. It makes me worried because it makes it easier for 343 to write this thread off because so much of this thread is just unreasonable or extreme. I feel like most in here don't actually know what they want.
 
I'll admit I enjoy the game - but in the month that it's been out I've played it very little. I enjoy it when I do play it (for the short intervals that I do play) but I don't really feel drawn back to it necessarily. I think part of it is that it's just so vastly different from what it used to be. It's fun (at times) but it's just not really Halo.
It lacks the tension and excitement of past halo MP. Sometimes the game plays more like checkers then chess, in that there are less controllable factors and its more about just reacting to whats in front of you.

The gunplay and movement is the best in the series ever, and the weapon sandbox feels very good to me (minus the concussion rifle, forerunner grenades, and inconsistent result of frags thanks to explosion perk).

I can see why some people absolutely love this game, but it's just hard to take the MP as serious as past halos after the dumbing-down of the modes / systems
 
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Yeah. It makes this thread nearly unbearable and it'd hard to see reason. It makes me worried because it makes it easier for 343 to write this thread off because so much of this thread is just unreasonable or extreme. I feel like most in hear don't actually know what they want.
Tons of suggestions here are:
1. entirely readable (are you talking in terms of grammar? maybe a language barrier?)
2. logical
3. and explained with suggestions

Its the fact they are doing nothing/none of them. For instance, yes, Team Regicide isn't bad. Guess what? no one asked for it and there's a good 25 or so MM decisions that should have been prioritized before that.

Yes you like the game, try the other thread where its a bit more posititve (still not great) Look at the daily populations though and realize people are leaving this game, its not like our negative comments are all super unfounded and pessimistic for NO reason. Theres literally things wrong with the game that need fixed.
 
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Yeah. It makes this thread nearly unbearable and it'd hard to see reason. It makes me worried because it makes it easier for 343 to write this thread off because so much of this thread is just unreasonable or extreme. I feel like most in hear don't actually know what they want.
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EDIT1: This is the extreme end of my spectrum. But it got my point across.
Is anyone actually enjoying Spartan Ops?

There's been a few fun moments for me, but it feels rather bland. The only thing that kept me motivated to play was that I was getting a few achievements.
No.
 
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Tons of suggestions here are:
1. entirely readable (are you talking in terms of grammar? maybe a language barrier?)
2. logical
3. and explained with suggestions

Its the fact they are doing nothing/none of them. For instance, yes, Team Regicide isn't bad. Guess what? no one asked for it and there's a good 25 or so MM decisions that should have been prioritized before that.

Yes you like the game, try the other thread where its a bit more posititve (still not great) Look at the daily populations though and realize people are leaving this game, its not like our negative comments are all super unfounded and pessimistic for NO reason. Theres literally things wrong with the game that need fixed.
It's the snide remarks. Its the beating on every little thing in the game even if it's minor and not a big deal. It's posting links to twitter and posting "GOTY 2012". "It's all terrible" is pretty vague and adds nothing.

I've seen plenty of good feedback, but as soon as you (not you, just figuratively) turn around and list snide bullshit, you kind of discredit yourself. Why would they listen to snide assholes? Who gives a fuck about a bunch of Internet dicks? This community should have more class, until then, why would 343 want to work with us? We're just cynical assholes who hate everything.

I know there's things wrong with this game. Plenty. I enjoy it but doesn't mean I don't want shit fixed or changed and to be communicated to. It's just the demeanor in here I have a problem with. Whatever though, I'm just around less now.
 

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Yeah. It makes this thread nearly unbearable and it'd hard to see reason. It makes me worried because it makes it easier for 343 to write this thread off because so much of this thread is just unreasonable or extreme. I feel like most in hear don't actually know what they want.
  • A content complete game
  • With a singular vision
  • And a locked framerate
  • More maps at launch to support the playlist you have
  • More maps per pack
  • Maps not outsourced
  • MP not Outsourced
  • NOTHING OUTSOURCED
  • A UI combining the best of Halo 2's and Reach's
  • Innovating or Improving any and all features that their predecessors had already established
  • A competitive ranking system that isn't confined to an app that has ads
  • A bulletin that amounts to more than hot air
  • A community website that isn't a labyrinth to navigate
  • Community features desired by the community given to the community
  • A real map editor
  • Theater to Youtube
  • Dedicated Servers



Feel free to add to this people.
 
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We're just cynical assholes who hate everything.
We're also cynical assholes who still play the game, are looking forward to dropping more of our hard earned cash on the next Xbox + Halo 5, want to see Halo on the top of the charts, featured in MLG/Competitive gaming leagues, etc. I agree that sometimes this thread/community takes off on a small point and beats the game to death over it, but largely we all want to see Halo 4 improve.
 
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It's the snide remarks. Its the beating on every little thing in the game even if it's minor and not a big deal. It's posting links to twitter and posting "GOTY 2012". "It's all terrible" is pretty vague and adds nothing.

I've seen plenty of good feedback, but as soon as you (not you, just figuratively) turn around and list snide bullshit, you kind of discredit yourself. Why would they listen to snide assholes? Who gives a fuck about a bunch of Internet dicks? This community should have more class, until then, why would 343 want to work with us? We're just cynical assholes who hate everything.

I know there's things wrong with this game. Plenty. I enjoy it but doesn't mean I don't want shit fixed or changed and to be communicated to. It's just the demeanor in here I have a problem with. Whatever though, I'm just around less now.
EVERY LITTLE THING MATTERS.

Sorry. Thats how I feel, the game is one large package. I'd prefer my Halo to be friggen godlike with nothing that can be made fun of. I have high expectations and for such a large company with so many employees and so much money I expect better. Thats just my feels. So if I want to bitch about how an icon is gone...I'll go ahead and do that. But I won't cause they still have the Wolf icon, I just need to grind more to get it.

Nothing is insignificant if someone feels like it effects their experience than its significant to them. Thats all.
 
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Top one is too extreme for sure. "Karl thinks everything is bullshit... Next."

A lot of your in depth feedback had been great though.

  • A content complete game
  • With a singular vision
  • And a locked framerate
  • More maps at launch to support the playlist you have
  • More maps per pack
  • Maps not outsourced
  • MP not Outsourced
  • NOTHING OUTSOURCED
  • A UI combining the best of Halo 2's and Reach's
  • Innovating or Improving any and all features that their predecessors had already established
  • A competitive ranking system that isn't confined to an app that has ads
  • A bulletin that amounts to more than hot air
  • A community website that isn't a labyrinth to navigate
  • Community features desired by the community given to the community
  • A real map editor
  • Theater to Youtube
  • Dedicated Servers



Feel free to add to this people.
I haven't seen you doing what I've described.

lol
 
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I've seen plenty of good feedback, but as soon as you (not you, just figuratively) turn around and list snide bullshit, you kind of discredit yourself. Why would they listen to snide assholes? Who gives a fuck about a bunch of Internet dicks? This community should have more class, until then, why would 343 want to work with us? We're just cynical assholes who hate everything.
the halo 4 creative director posts pictures of crying babies in response to community reaction.
 
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the halo 4 creative director posts pictures of crying babies in response to community reaction.
good, about time some devs have the balls to stand up to those entitled sons of bitches that whine on forums all day long about nothing. it's Halo, it's the Master Chief, it's sick XBL multiplayer, what the fuck is there to complain about?
 
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EVERY LITTLE THING MATTERS.

Sorry. Thats how I feel, the game is one large package. I'd prefer my Halo to be friggen godlike with nothing that can be made fun of. I have high expectations and for such a large company with so many employees and so much money I expect better. Thats just my feels. So if I want to bitch about how an icon is gone...I'll go ahead and do that. But I won't cause they still have the Wolf icon, I just need to grind more to get it.

Nothing is insignificant if someone feels like it effects their experience than its significant to them. Thats all.
Sure, but you're never going to get that perfect Juices Halo game. Did it ever even exist? There's always going to be compromises and shit you don't like that you'll have to deal with.

I also wasn't aiming my post at you. Your posts are always pretty good and I feel you take a fair stance.
 

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good, about time some devs have the balls to stand up to those entitled sons of bitches that whine on forums all day long about nothing. it's Halo, it's the Master Chief, it's sick XBL multiplayer, what the fuck is there to complain about?
you forgot about the rad soda and chips
 
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Halo devs have never been particularly interested in written feedback. People have been writing long (by forum standards), well-structured essays for years. Like Rainier Wolfcastle's goggles, they do nothing.
 
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  • A content complete game
  • With a singular vision
  • And a locked framerate
  • More maps at launch to support the playlist you have
  • More maps per pack
  • Maps not outsourced
  • MP not Outsourced
  • NOTHING OUTSOURCED
  • A UI combining the best of Halo 2's and Reach's
  • Innovating or Improving any and all features that their predecessors had already established
  • A competitive ranking system that isn't confined to an app that has ads
  • A bulletin that amounts to more than hot air
  • A community website that isn't a labyrinth to navigate
  • Community features desired by the community given to the community
  • A real map editor
  • Theater to Youtube
  • Dedicated Servers



Feel free to add to this people.
Literally everything here seems like a bare fucking minimum. Save for dedicated servers, since Microsoft doesn't like spending money on upkeep when they're getting paid to offer P2P multiplayer.
 
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Halo devs have never been particularly interested in written feedback. People have been writing long (by forum standards), well-structured essays for years. Like Rainier Wolfcastle's goggles, they do nothing.
No, I think its clear they listen, but writing long well thought out constructive criticism doesn't seem to be where 343 puts most their ears into. Game devs are interested in a bigger picture. For instance, they know as a bigger picture, the consensus in neogaf is we want static ordnance to replace global ordnance. We want firstly to fix the bugged custom options and then to add new ones to emulate classic halo. We want red x's and better indicators. We want a boltshot nerf. We want smaller maps.

We are disappointed in the UI. We are disappointed with SpOps. etc etc etc.

They know the general complaints and listen to them. The frustration comes from these complaints not getting addressed or explained. I'm not talking about a TU or something, I'm talking about JUST ACKNOWLEDGING the problems and telling us if they're even planning on fixing them.

Is static ordnance completley against their vision and their not going to replace global? Is having plasma pistols/nades in BTB an infallible core decision? Is the boltshot fine to them? What was the purpose behind removing Red X's? Can they even be put back in the game?

But its all silence.
 
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It's the snide remarks. Its the beating on every little thing in the game even if it's minor and not a big deal. It's posting links to twitter and posting "GOTY 2012". "It's all terrible" is pretty vague and adds nothing.

I've seen plenty of good feedback, but as soon as you (not you, just figuratively) turn around and list snide bullshit, you kind of discredit yourself. Why would they listen to snide assholes? Who gives a fuck about a bunch of Internet dicks? This community should have more class, until then, why would 343 want to work with us? We're just cynical assholes who hate everything.

I know there's things wrong with this game. Plenty. I enjoy it but doesn't mean I don't want shit fixed or changed and to be communicated to. It's just the demeanor in here I have a problem with. Whatever though, I'm just around less now.
Really well thought out, senador. For every well thought up suggestion and opinions on the game there three snide comments. It makes this thread be a constant downer. Maybe the H4 OT is better, it's just kind of sad that this community has devolved into this.
 
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Really well thought out, senador. For every well thought up suggestion and opinions on the game there three snide comments. It makes this thread be a constant downer. Maybe the H4 OT is better, it's just kind of sad that this community has devolved into this.
Before game was released we said a bunch of the ideas were garbage. People (Read: Slrpers here who got to play it early said "Nah man just wait til you play it") They obviously went ahead with their vision and people are surprised a lot of players here dont like it?

Gee I'm shocked.

They just need to listen to the fans a little harder, and the casuals a little less (They will buy the game no matter what, they will even continue to play it if its actually a good game!)
 
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