FranXico
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Such rumors cannot be true. Why would Microsoft heavily push a casual gamer oriented product such as Kinect at a core gamer centered event such as Gamescom?
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handytips.info Rumor: Microsoft to 'reintroduce' Xbox1 @ event/may lower price to 399
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Such rumors cannot be true. Why would Microsoft heavily push a casual gamer oriented product such as Kinect at a core gamer centered event such as Gamescom?
NemesisPrime
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You must be new around here
I want kinect in X1, it is the only thing that makes next gen consoles interesting vs PCs.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Wii U pre-orders were also sold out.
They sold up preorder allocations for several biggest US chains and some of UKs. Maybe this is everywhere, yup.
How much units is this? 100.000? 75.000? Only guys in Redmond operate with exact number
Post like this make no sense... Why would you want less value... Christ you guys...
GrizzledGrump
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Point acknowledged. I think Kinect give XONE the potential to be the next "Black Swan" technologically. It gives the console more potential to be the place where there are new types of games.
If these consoles were on an normal consumer electronics release cycles, incremental feature upgrades would make sense (faster GPU and more memory). But doing that for a machine that has to be viable for a decade is a fool's errand. With Apple now looking to buy out the firm that created the original Kinect technology, these consoles have to be forward thinking. Tens of millions of casual gamers being roped in later in the console life cycle is no longer a given. The oh so critical "critical mass" have other devices competing for their gaming dollars. Both companies know this and have built their consoles around this--Sony straddling the fence and MS going all-in.
No way they will or should drop kinect.
Think about it.
If they dropped Kinect you now are launching nothing more than a less powerful PS4 at the same time as the PS4 so why would anyone buy it? Halo won't sell that many consoles.
They have to frame the X1 as an entirely different (better) package and experience than their competition and Kinect is central to that.
Think about it.
If they dropped Kinect you now are launching nothing more than a less powerful PS4 at the same time as the PS4 so why would anyone buy it? Halo won't sell that many consoles.
They have to frame the X1 as an entirely different (better) package and experience than their competition and Kinect is central to that.
Really doubt a price drop before it even hits the market. At least a year or half a year before any major action. On the other hand, It seems like they've been taking an interesting way to test people's threshold for bullshit by making tweaks. Announce an utter garbage proposition to the consumers and see how much of it can stick as they slowly peel back the layers of shit. It's taken on a much more palatable shape lately.
dragonelite
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Drop it like it hot.....
That's called capitalism. If you think Sony is any different you're delusional.
You are forced to have it connected at all times.
Because I don't want fucking Kinect and should have that option.
For reals, Jesus fuck!
Though I think that they are really saying is "Please don't require Kinect to be plugged in"
xValentine
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Please be true.
Maybe...they don't want...to spend more money...on a feature they won't....use....Christ...
Sho_Nuff82
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Unbundling Kinect doesn't mean that Kinect will not be sold separately. I own a Kinect, and I love Dance Central, but I'd rather not pay for a peripheral up front before any decent games are made for it.
Guess what, that also will fizzle out, That game sold very well due to Wii sales, not Kinect anyways.
King Allant
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wait, is it really worse than 2005-2006?
LeeFowler.CU
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It's also last-gen hardware and has near zero third-party support. PS4 and Xbox One will share 95% of their games. The situations aren't exactly the same.
Some people don't find any value in the Kinect, and would prefer to throw it in a closet and just play the games.
Less value, for less money. Seems like a square deal to me.
The console that those games were bought for says hi too.
This thread is about a Xbox one with kinect for $399. Posters are saying they don't want kinect period...
Syphon Filter
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yea a console being successful is bad for the industry!
ZombieSupaStar
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now just make kinect able to be unplugged...
Vestal
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This is pretty narrow minded. Sony is not exactly the White Knight in regards to DRM policies, or screwing the consumer with some of their policies.
Both companies are capable of doing 180s on anything and everything. Both have shown us examples of such practices, or are we forgetting the PS3 Alternate OS installation?
RobotRocker
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They should have learned from history from the N64. If there was no Mario, Pilotwings and WaveRace to show off how good Analog controls could be, the N64 probably would have flatlined on a Killer Instinct and Crusin' USA launch line up. Never mind convincing people. Hell, People hated the analog stick until Mario 64 was in their hands and people wanted Miyamoto's head on a pike for even considering going outside the digital safezone considering analog till that point was terrible. Microsoft are lacking the Mario 64.
The problem on top of that is that Kinect has potential if you put your mind to it. That Dead Rising 3 stuff they showed where you can distract and attract zombies using sounds in your room? Basic, but a good start into how you think outside the box using it. But how about tracking the player's movements. Say, they look away from the screen to talk to someone and take their eyes off it, turn back and OH SHIT HORDE GET OUT NOW. Have Tricks you can play on the player. The game can react to you as much as you input to the game. That is potential that doesn't rely on motion gaming.
Heck, hypothetical. Rare or Double Fine makes a new cartoonish 3D Platformer where the main character gets controlled by the player, and the sidekick is invincible and motion controlled. You can have a set up where a parent can play as the main character and have their kids play the motion controlled sidekick who can run around and go nuts and they can solve puzzles together using the combination of the pad player and the kinect player. While solo, the sidekick isn't there or is on your back (Banjo-Threeie, HINT HINT)
That's Microsoft's problem. They have a tech which can be applied with a lot of imagination, as hackers have shown. But they don't have that game that says "This is WHY you want to use that tech" like Mario, like Pilotwings or like Waverace (Though arguably we haven't had that sort of game since Wii Sports). That's what they badly need to get the core gamers convinced on Kinect. But they don't have it yet and it remains to be seen if they will get it.
Or they could just make The Wavy Tube Man Chronicles 2. That would work a charm.
No, this thread is about a rumor of them reintroducing Xbone, and that there were discussions about price but nothing is set.
PhoenixDark
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Not really. Nintendo will be virtually forgotten if the XB1 and PS4 both come in at $400.
Why is that a problem?
Mr.Wreckless
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People.........in here........... are saying........... they would spend 399 on an XB1 without Kinect..............but not on an XB1 with Kinect.
MAKES NO SENSE!
GrizzledGrump
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God, this reminds me so much of the "PS3 with no Blu-Ray" rumors early in this gen. In the end Sony took a gamble that almost killed them, but it worked out for the corporation as a whole. And don't kid yourself, Blu-Ray didn't do squat for games this gen unless you consider no disc swapping an innovation. But by being bundled in the PS4 helped kill HD-DVD.
I think Kinect 2.0 can actually help make better games.
Hey, where'd those goalposts go?
Nemesis121
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Exactly, $399 with Kinect would be FUCKING awesome...
famousmortimer
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All signs point to the xbox one selling out at launch. Why would they drop price if they are already selling all of their consoles?
Handytips.lol
Handytips.lol
If this rumor turns out to be true and we do infact see a 400 dollar Kinect X1 at launch i bet u Sony goes into panik mode and throws the Eye camera into their next playstation. Justto match the other console feature for feature. LOL. Both companies playng chess here. Eh better for consumers, its good to see.
ultrazilla
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Won't matter to me if Kinect is still mandatory.
MS: Drop mandatory Kinect and I'll bite. Otherwise, kindly piss off.
MS: Drop mandatory Kinect and I'll bite. Otherwise, kindly piss off.
People keep forgetting Sony and their "rumble is last gen" 180
Potentially? They're willing to purchase luxury items like iPads, and a large portion of the casual market are parents making purchases for their kids. It's infinitely easier to sell a product to parents when the parents in question have a legitimate interest in the product as well. Regardless of cost, if an item is seen as hot or trendy, it's going to sell regardless of price. Whether the Xbox One actually achieves that is certainly questionable, but it's more than possible.
And we don't really know if price barrier alone is enough to tank a console. The Playstation 3 was A) More expensive than the Xbox 360 and Wii B) Had less games than the 360 and C) Was releasing a year after the Xbox 360. It was the perfect trifecta of bad decisions (although Microsoft would have exclipsed them had they not backtracked), and the Xbox One is only deficient in one of those three categories. Microsoft has done pretty well selling 360s with only added value to the existing price point, so maybe they feel packing in something like Kinect is going to resonate with consumers at the price point they've set. If a price drop doesn't occur, we'll see if Microsoft floats or sinks with the $499 price point.
Syphon Filter
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A console shouldn't rely on a peripheral to function. I can see the issue.
gamemadmax
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any other site reporting this yet
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