The problem for me with HDR is that you won't notice unless you're looking side by side
Crank up the orange and blue = HDR
The "muted" one is the hdr screen though. The comparisons show off the detail in bright areas pretty well. Notice you can see all the ripples in the water on the suns reflection, compared to the non hdr where the suns reflection is just a big orange blob.so if I can see these HDR changes on any old monitor, does that mean any old monitor can do HDR ?
j/k
Posting 'comparisons' isn't going to do anything since 95% of people viewing those images won't have HDR on them, to us it looks like one picture's colors have been muted and the others increased, something any display can do.
The "muted" one is the hdr screen though. The comparisons show off the detail in bright areas pretty well. Notice you can see all the ripples in the water on the suns reflection, compared to the non hdr where the suns reflection is just a big orange blob.
I don't think I've seen one consumer HDR monitor? Maybe there are professional ones?
Now that's fascinating. I thought the muted one was supposed to represent 'normal' panels. But then, to my untrained eye it looks like the level of detail is exactly the same, I don't see any extra pop except the sun being a lot more 'blatantly obvious'.
I guess I need to see them side by side with my own eyes to become a believer.
The "muted" one is the hdr screen though. The comparisons show off the detail in bright areas pretty well. Notice you can see all the ripples in the water on the suns reflection, compared to the non hdr where the suns reflection is just a big orange blob.
This is incorrect based on my own experience comparing my hdr and sdr sets. Hdr definitely allows more subtle details in bright areas.It can't show the added detail.
Any additional detail is there because of HDR would disappear again once you display the pic on your SDR screen.
This is just the way the picture was taken. If the picture was taken calculating the right exposure for the screen on the left (which appears brighter) you'd see the ripples again.
Though i'm not exactly sure how this works; from the videos posted in the other pages it looks like the colors have to be coded in a significantly different way for hdr videos, so displaying the same video on a SDR display would just give weird results.
Yes HDR will add 50gb to your 20gb hard drive making it a whopping 70gb hard drive. Hope this clears it up for you.Will hdr add more size to content?
Will 50gb movie become 80gb if its with hdr?
If yes where is our 60fps+ movies??
The hdr is on the right in those comparison shots, the more natural looking picture.
Another thing to notice is the sun in the first pic. On the non hdr set the brightness of the sun bleeds over any of the details of the clouds covering it. In the hdr pic, the sun is just as bright (probably way brighter in person) yet you can see all the detail of the clouds in front of it thanks to the enhanced contrast.
OP, I suggest you switch around the order you mention the TVs in the first sentence as it's giving people the wrong impression as to which TV is which.
The comparison pictures are complete BS. It's literally impossible to see the difference between a an SDR and HDR on a SDR display. Realistically a comparison image on an SDR screen would have both look nearly identical, and only when the comparison was displayed on an HDR screen would the differences become visible.
What all these comparison images show is that either the person making them had an agenda, or they didn't have to the tools to do the job properly.
The comparison pictures are complete BS. It's literally impossible to see the difference between a an SDR and HDR on a SDR display. Realistically a comparison image on an SDR screen would have both look nearly identical, and only when the comparison was displayed on an HDR screen would the differences become visible.
What all these comparison images show is that either the person making them had an agenda, or they didn't have to the tools to do the job properly.
This is also wrong. Hdr is coded differently, they will never look the same when you take a picture of both side by side.
This is incorrect based on my own experience comparing my hdr and sdr sets. Hdr definitely allows more subtle details in bright areas.
yeah hdr looks like shit on my iphone so the tech is overrated
Not true, they just don't truly show you how bright the tv on the right is, which is why you think the one on the left is brighter.exactly, but those details would disappear again in pics viewed on a SDR display..
He's not equating one to the other. On the other hand, that there is too much information to properly display on a screen is a much better way to explain the concept than hilariously saturated/contrast-up marketing images.
This is also wrong. Hdr is coded differently, they will never look the same when you take a picture of both side by side.
This reads like somebody whos never seen hdr in person arguing with someone who owns am hdr set about whether these pics accurately reprrsent some of the benefits.It's not wrong. It's literally impossible to show the difference on an SDR screen. Someone working with accurate tools would be able to convert the HDR image to an SDR image it would work within the bounds of SDR. Only broken tools would blow out the gamma and colors to the degree on display in this thread. Also the tools are apparently so broken that they retroactively ruin the quality of the SDR image being compared to.
Here is quite nice presentation on HDR TV and what it means to games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQlJGUcDYy4
Yes HDR will add 50gb to your 20gb hard drive making it a whopping 70gb hard drive. Hope this clears it up for you.
This reads like somebody whos never seen hdr in person arguing with someone who owns am hdr set about whether these pics accurately reprrsent some of the benefits.
They do.
It's not much of a difference if any. Hdr is just a diferent gamma curve.So funny.
Any real answers?
I'm quoting some people here. When eventually all TV have HDR I wonder if this thread going to become hall of fame.
People really need to see it in person. Don't try some of the OLED TV - really bad. Try Sony Z9D that one mind blowing.
What is his agenda? To try and show a little bit of the difference for people curious? This dude isn't Mr. Philip P. Sony trying to trick you into giving him 10000 dollars for a tv lol.So you are agreeing with me. These images are someone with an agenda manipulating images to try and get a point across. In other words they aren't accurate comparison images as that is impossible to achieve when working within the bounds of the far more restrictive format.
Not true, they just don't truly show you how bright the tv on the right is, which is why you think the one on the left is brighter.
You can still see the difference in contrast through these pics.
What is his agenda? To try and show a little bit of the difference for people curious? This dude isn't Mr. Philip P. Sony trying to trick you into giving him 10000 dollars for a tv lol.
Not true, they just don't truly show you how bright the tv on the right is, which is why you think the one on the left is brighter.
You can still see the difference in contrast through these pics.
Why would he be trying to sell displays? Am I trying to sell displays? I work at a pizza shop lol.The agenda is to sell displays which you well know.
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Why would he be trying to sell displays? Am I trying to sell displays? I work at a pizza shop lol.
And man, if you're this upset about these comparison pics (for some reason) i can't imagine how upset you're gonna be when you find out the difference is waaaay more striking than this in person.
Are you're tv's calibrated to the same color temperature?
Hdr is on the right.The comparison pictures are a bit weird, the HDR shouldn't be more saturated or contrasty, but more nuanced.
Even if they were, the two versions of the footage went through different color grading. You can't make a comparison like this.
I just care about the technical aspects. And these comparison images are BS on that front. People are free to make them and I'm free to point out how technically inept they are.