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HEY! C'MON C'MON: It's the Giga Powered Neo Geo Appreciation Thread

Danny Dudekisser

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
What's $530 divided by 50?

10.6.

10.6! I could've bought 10.6 handjobs, at a rate of $50 (assume she's a classy lady who still has all her original fingers) for the price of the Omega I don't have.

Amortize that over 9 weeks, and I could've gotten at least one handjob a week for the last two months, and gotten blue balled once. But I guess that when you factor in shipping, she could probably have finished the job for the same price.

It really makes you think.
 
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4444244

Member
I would never get a Omega.

Japanese Supergun + 1 slot MVS everytime.

That's the BOSS setup, granted it isn't as neat and tidy as an Omega, but who cares about that if you have a awesome Japanese control box supergun setup for the same price of less.

You can also use it to run other Arcade PCB's - and who doesn't want to own a piece of history like a Street Fighter PCB?
 
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Ruprit

Member
The most recent mention of wait times I could find for the Omega MVS is on the Neo-Geo forums. A user in May said that it took over two months before delivery. I'm assuming that it might be even longer on account of Arcade-Works extending the build time on their order page.

But yeah, there are quite a few options to play MVS games these days. Outside of a Supergun I'd put JNX's MVS at the top for dedicated units.
 
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Peltz

Member
4444244 said:
I would never get a Omega.

Japanese Supergun + 1 slot MVS everytime.

That's the BOSS setup, granted it isn't as neat and tidy as an Omega, but who cares about that if you have a awesome Japanese control box supergun setup for the same price of less.

You can also use it to run other Arcade PCB's - and who doesn't want to own a piece of history like a Street Fighter PCB?
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A CMVS costs less than a supergun. I think mine was only $350. Omegas are a bit more expensive, yes.

By the way, I do agree with you in many ways. If I could do it all over again I'd get a supergun and spend a lot to make it super versatile rather than a CMVS.

In fact, I still may do that and sell my CMVS to someone for cheap.
 
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KC-Slater

Member
4444244 said:
I would never get a Omega.

Japanese Supergun + 1 slot MVS everytime.

That's the BOSS setup, granted it isn't as neat and tidy as an Omega, but who cares about that if you have a awesome Japanese control box supergun setup for the same price of less.

You can also use it to run other Arcade PCB's - and who doesn't want to own a piece of history like a Street Fighter PCB?
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Peltz said:
A CMVS costs less than a supergun. I think mine was only $350. Omegas are a bit more expensive, yes.

By the way, I do agree with you in many ways. If I could do it all over again I'd get a supergun and spend a lot to make it super versatile rather than a CMVS.

In fact, I still may do that and sell my CMVS to someone for cheap.
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I picked up a supergun (HAS v3) made by a user over at Arcade Projects and haven't looked back. The price was very reasonable at 120 EUR, it works flawlessly, and the design is very smart and forward thinking. Picked up the optional adapters to use Saturn controllers with it, and I'm playing my MVS and CPS2 stuff with my HSS-0130.

Think of a quality supergun the same as the any other component or scaler; more as a modular investment in your overall gaming setup, as opposed to a stand-alone piece.

Omegas are super nice looking, but I took a chance supporting RGB's project, and I'm extremely happy that I did!
 
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Peltz

Member
KC-Slater said:
I picked up a supergun (HAS v3) made by a user over at Arcade Projects and haven't looked back. The price was very reasonable at 120 EUR, it works flawlessly, and the design is very smart and forward thinking. Picked up the optional adapters to use Saturn controllers with it, and I'm playing my MVS and CPS2 stuff with my HSS-0130.

Think of a quality supergun the same as the any other component or scaler; more as a modular investment in your overall gaming setup, as opposed to a stand-alone piece.

Omegas are super nice looking, but I took a chance supporting RGB's project, and I'm extremely happy that I did!
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Where can I read up on that supergun? Sounds very affordable.
 
IrishNinja

IrishNinja

Member
yeah i debated supergun for a bit, having an XRGB mini makes it feasible - but i don't wanna go down the rabbit hole of buying arcade boards, plus the AES' design is sexy as fuck. i'd take a similar model like the omega + a flashcart any day.
 
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Laevateinn

Member
IrishNinja said:
yeah i debated supergun for a bit, having an XRGB mini makes it feasible - but i don't wanna go down the rabbit hole of buying arcade boards, plus the AES' design is sexy as fuck. i'd take a similar model like the omega + a flashcart any day.
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Stay away from PCBs. It's dangerous.
 
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cyborgnumberblue

Member
KC-Slater said:
I picked up a supergun (HAS v3) made by a user over at Arcade Projects and haven't looked back. The price was very reasonable at 120 EUR, it works flawlessly, and the design is very smart and forward thinking. Picked up the optional adapters to use Saturn controllers with it, and I'm playing my MVS and CPS2 stuff with my HSS-0130.

Think of a quality supergun the same as the any other component or scaler; more as a modular investment in your overall gaming setup, as opposed to a stand-alone piece.

Omegas are super nice looking, but I took a chance supporting RGB's project, and I'm extremely happy that I did!
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Nice post, that thing is super cool, definitely considering one.
 
Danny Dudekisser

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
Man, you ever look back and think to yourself "holy shit, where was I 11 weeks ago?"

And then you realize you were sitting in the same place you are now, ordering the Omega like a fucken chump.

Nothing changed.

You're still going to be sitting there, alone, another 11 weeks from now. Still eating 20 cent packets of ramen, jerking off to futanari porn as your friends forget you ever existed and your parents stop calling.
 
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Morfeo

The Chuck Norris of Peace
Chacranajxy said:
Man, you ever look back and think to yourself "holy shit, where was I 11 weeks ago?"

And then you realize you were sitting in the same place you are now, ordering the Omega like a fucken chump.

Nothing changed.

You're still going to be sitting there, alone, another 11 weeks from now. Still eating 20 cent packets of ramen, jerking off to futanari porn as your friends forget you ever existed and your parents stop calling.
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Just googled this. Not recommended!
 
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ToD_

Member
I have an Analogue CMVS, which I bought years ago when I was fed up dealing with my Japanese AES and converter for MVS carts. The video output of the CMVS wasn't great, and Analogue wasn't very helpful getting this issue resolved. I sent the CMVS to James at Jamma Nation X, who cleaned it up for the most part. Unfortunately, there was still some noise present in the RGB signal. I decided to take a look at it myself and noticed the (component/s-video) video encoder was the cause of this. I took it out and wired the SCART RGB cable directly to the JAMMA harness and the signal was noise free afterwards. There is still something a little off about the colors, however, usually visible in dither patterns. Nothing too bad, but with that issue and the system currently looking like the Frankenstein monster I'm just kind of done with this for now. I will look at this project again in the future.

The AES I have had since the late 90s basically works perfectly. It also has pristine RGB output, mostly thanks to MKL at the Neo-Geo forums who installed an RGB bypass mod about 15 years ago. With this in mind I have decided to go the easy route and get a NeoSD AES cart. I believe it even supports switching to MVS mode, making the lack of a UniBIOS a little less painful.

Anyway, I am really looking forward to actually playing games on the system rather than messing with the CMVS. In addition, the room will look much nicer with the beautiful AES instead of the monstrosity that is the current state of this CMVS.
 
Danny Dudekisser

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
ToD_ said:
I have an Analogue CMVS, which I bought years ago when I was fed up dealing with my Japanese AES and converter for MVS carts. The video output of the CMVS wasn't great, and Analogue wasn't very helpful getting this issue resolved. I sent the CMVS to James at Jamma Nation X, who cleaned it up for the most part. Unfortunately, there was still some noise present in the RGB signal. I decided to take a look at it myself and noticed the (component/s-video) video encoder was the cause of this. I took it out and wired the SCART RGB cable directly to the JAMMA harness and the signal was noise free afterwards. There is still something a little off about the colors, however, usually visible in dither patterns. Nothing too bad, but with that issue and the system currently looking like the Frankenstein monster I'm just kind of done with this for now. I will look at this project again in the future.

The AES I have had since the late 90s basically works perfectly. It also has pristine RGB output, mostly thanks to MKL at the Neo-Geo forums who installed an RGB bypass mod about 15 years ago. With this in mind I have decided to go the easy route and get a NeoSD AES cart. I believe it even supports switching to MVS mode, making the lack of a UniBIOS a little less painful.

Anyway, I am really looking forward to actually playing games on the system rather than messing with the CMVS. In addition, the room will look much nicer with the beautiful AES instead of the monstrosity that is the current state of this CMVS.
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Yeah, I remember hearing some iffy things about Analogue's CMVS... I dunno how these things are wired up, but were they just using a JROK encoder or something and managed to fuck it up?
 
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RoryDropkick

Member
Chacranajxy said:
Man, you ever look back and think to yourself "holy shit, where was I 11 weeks ago?"

And then you realize you were sitting in the same place you are now, ordering the Omega like a fucken chump.

Nothing changed.

You're still going to be sitting there, alone, another 11 weeks from now. Still eating 20 cent packets of ramen, jerking off to futanari porn as your friends forget you ever existed and your parents stop calling.
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Sounds like my life in the early 2000s, minus the Omega...waiiit
 
Neo-Alec

Neo-Alec

Neo Member
If you're talking about buying a supergun, it's not that simple. You're proposing getting into arcade PCB ownership. They take maintenance to keep them working these days.
 
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ToD_

Member
Chacranajxy said:
Yeah, I remember hearing some iffy things about Analogue's CMVS... I dunno how these things are wired up, but were they just using a JROK encoder or something and managed to fuck it up?
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That appears to be the case. My unit had a NeoBitz encoder in it, but the quality was awful. The picture was dim and the colors dull, and in addition there was a ton of noise crawling through the image. I think what James at JNX did was likely wire the RGB lines so they would bypass the encoder. Unfortunately, it appeared there was still some sort of interference, which was eliminated by removing the encoder altogether. One day I'll put the CMVS back together without the encoder. With a BVM and an OSSC there really is no need for anything other than RGB anymore.
 
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SeriuzBiznus

Member
Just picked up Spin Master on MVS for £35! Another Data East title to add to the collection. I was looking to get either Spin Master, Blue's Journey or Magician Lord and this was the first one that popped up on eBay with a decent price.

Cart all seems legit, but I always get nervous until I have the cart in my hands for a proper inspection. Still, £35 ain't a big loss if worst comes to worst.

Anyone played this? It seems to be a decent 2D platformer baring in mind the limited selection on the Neo Geo.
 
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Rimshot

Member
Is there anything to look out for when looking to purchase a used AES system?

Are certain versions better than others?

And are there any faults to look out for, or any modifications?

How about PAL vs Japanese/US?

Thank you in advance.
 
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Shin Johnpv

Member
When it comes to the AES I think different motherboard revisions put out different quality levels of RGB. I wish I had a chart for you to tell you what to look for but it's been awhile since I was down that rabbit hole. When I did it they were basing it on Serial Numbers, and I hear that's not accurate now. Maybe check the neogeo.com forums for that info. For the love of god though what ever you do, do not become a member there. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

As far as mods go, people used to do S-Video, and Component mods to it. Mine has an S-Video mod, from before I had a way to use RGB. The other big one is putting in the UniBIOS. Which is pretty common at this point. You want the UniBios for sure. Mine also had a brand new cartridge slot put on just before I got it, not sure how common that is.

I don't think there's a difference between Japanese or US systems, not sure on PAL though. Doing some quick googling it looks like the PAL version runs at 50hz and maybe runs the games with borders. Can't confirm that last bit. So it seems like maybe it's best to go Japanese/US.

Hope that helps and hopefully there's no miss information there.
 
Ban Puncher

Ban Puncher

Member
I got my NeoSD today.


Suck it, Chacranajxy!


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Rimshot

Member
Shin Johnpv said:
When it comes to the AES I think different motherboard revisions put out different quality levels of RGB. I wish I had a chart for you to tell you what to look for but it's been awhile since I was down that rabbit hole. When I did it they were basing it on Serial Numbers, and I hear that's not accurate now. Maybe check the neogeo.com forums for that info. For the love of god though what ever you do, do not become a member there. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

As far as mods go, people used to do S-Video, and Component mods to it. Mine has an S-Video mod, from before I had a way to use RGB. The other big one is putting in the UniBIOS. Which is pretty common at this point. You want the UniBios for sure. Mine also had a brand new cartridge slot put on just before I got it, not sure how common that is.

I don't think there's a difference between Japanese or US systems, not sure on PAL though. Doing some quick googling it looks like the PAL version runs at 50hz and maybe runs the games with borders. Can't confirm that last bit. So it seems like maybe it's best to go Japanese/US.

Hope that helps and hopefully there's no miss information there.
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Thanks for the info.

It feels a bit dishearting to hear that different consoles output different quality of RGB :X Is there any easy mod to remedy that in case one gets a consol with bad output? Since I live in Europe I prefer RGB over SVideo and the likes :)
 
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ToD_

Member
Rimshot said:
Thanks for the info.

It feels a bit dishearting to hear that different consoles output different quality of RGB :X Is there any easy mod to remedy that in case one gets a consol with bad output? Since I live in Europe I prefer RGB over SVideo and the likes :)
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Yes, it is unfortunate. I believe it has to do with the internal composite video encoder. The quality varies by model. From what I recall older models are supposed to be best. My AES is one of the earlier models, however, and I could still tell the RGB quality wasn't up to par. Thankfully, there is an RGB bypass mod, which will give you a clean signal regardless of your model. It will bypass the composite video encoder and your RGB signal will be as good as an MVS. I had this done by MKL from the Neo-Geo forums back in the day (not sure if he's still around). I believe the mod he performed is the one below:

http://www.mmmonkey.co.uk/snk-neo-geo-aes-rgb-bypass/

Also see this thread where MKL goes over the details:
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?111152-RGB-bypass-mod
 
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Rimshot

Member
ToD_ said:
Yes, it is unfortunate. I believe it has to do with the internal composite video encoder. The quality varies by model. From what I recall older models are supposed to be best. My AES is one of the earlier models, however, and I could still tell the RGB quality wasn't up to par. Thankfully, there is an RGB bypass mod, which will give you a clean signal regardless of your model. It will bypass the composite video encoder and your RGB signal will be as good as an MVS. I had this done by MKL from the Neo-Geo forums back in the day (not sure if he's still around). I believe the mod he performed is the one below:

http://www.mmmonkey.co.uk/snk-neo-geo-aes-rgb-bypass/

Also see this thread where MKL goes over the details:
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?111152-RGB-bypass-mod
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Thanks for the links. The mod listed at mmmonkey seems simple enough that even I should be able to do it. I did however search on youtube for a video on it, and found a french one where they seemed to be soldering them to different places. Got me a little confused.

This one seems easier though, if one is lucky enough heh: http://www.mmmonkey.co.uk/snk-neo-geo-aes-rgb-neo-aes3-6-vertical-lines/

Edit: also seems it is possible to mod 60hz by removing some solder on the PAL AES...
 
Neo-Alec

Neo-Alec

Neo Member
ToD_ said:
That appears to be the case. My unit had a NeoBitz encoder in it, but the quality was awful. The picture was dim and the colors dull, and in addition there was a ton of noise crawling through the image. I think what James at JNX did was likely wire the RGB lines so they would bypass the encoder. Unfortunately, it appeared there was still some sort of interference, which was eliminated by removing the encoder altogether. One day I'll put the CMVS back together without the encoder. With a BVM and an OSSC there really is no need for anything other than RGB anymore.
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Yeah, all you really need is RGB these days. Get a scart to component box for your CRT.

You'll need to find out what kind of AES you have and try it out before doing the RGB mod.
 
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ToD_

Member
I got my NeoSD yesterday as well. The thing works perfectly and looks much better than having an MVS cart stuffed in a converter. I can highly recommend it.
 
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Vinegar Joe

Member
For the first time ever, I've broken my self imposed limit of £50 per game.

£70 for Neo Bomberman on MVS. Does come with the full art set though, so that's the way I'm spinning it. That has to be worth the extra £20, right?

That, and the self imposed limit was made up when I was a poor student. I have a full time job and very few overheads now. If I wasn't so frugal it would have gone years ago.
 
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finngamer

Member
Finally got Garou AES! One of the coolest covers ever, dat yellow.

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Got it locally for 700€, so a real steal. (And yes, boards are legit!)
 
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Vinegar Joe

Member
finngamer said:
Finally got Garou AES! One of the coolest covers ever, dat yellow.

Got it locally for 700€, so a real steal. (And yes, boards are legit!)
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Nice! It doesn't get better than that, even if there are rarer/more expensive games out there.

Coincidentally, I was just reading about you on Eurogamer. That is some impressive collection you have. The contrast with my post above couldn't be more stark, lol.
 
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finngamer

Member
Vinegar Joe said:
Nice! It doesn't get better than that, even if there are rarer/more expensive games out there.

Coincidentally, I was just reading about you on Eurogamer. That is some impressive collection you have. The contrast with my post above couldn't be more stark, lol.
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Thanks!

For me it's pretty easy justifying bigger purchases like this (Or MVS Neo Bomberman!), because you can always get your money back. And if you wait a while, you can even make a little profit. I'm not in it for the profit of course, but it's not like you're wasting money. The money just changes form a little.
 
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Rimshot

Member
Auction sites that do not have anti snipefeatures suck :( Lost on a PAL AES because someone upped with just 5 dollars above my max that I had set. I should've increased it more ;_;
 
Ban Puncher

Ban Puncher

Member
Having spent a few days with the NeoSD I am bloody impressed with it.

Loading times vary depending on how big the game is when flashing it for the first time from a couple of seconds to around a minute but once the game is queued up it is basically as if that particular cartridge was inserted in your machine.

Haven't run into any comparability issues. It even plays the weirdo MS and KoF hacks. Your system may wig out when trying to play Irritating Maze or some of those Mahjong games but that's because those were arcade games that require a special controller - no fault of the NeoSD.

Buy one, jerks.
 
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