DHC-Shannow
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Watch the guys hand as he scrolls it around 1:10 - he's following the display not moving it himself ...
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HoloLens Minecraft Demo
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loaf of bread
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Stuff like this is pointless to me to show since I don't know if Hololens will be like 1299.
E the Shaggy
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American Eskimo
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It looked amazing.
But it reminded me of the 3DS AR games. Cool the first time, and then you never play it again
But it reminded me of the 3DS AR games. Cool the first time, and then you never play it again
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
This is the Kinect tech demo all over again
Caipirinha
Member
Pretty sure that they just had a computer streaming the Minecraft instance and overlaying it over the "special camera's" feed.
I could be wrong but there was nothing at all in that demo that looks like holography, nothing responded to any of the optics of the room or the camera.
What are you talking about? It's not a projector, it's AR, it's just covering up what is there like you would if you put a piece of paper over it. If it were a projection the camera wouldn't need to wear anything for us to see it.
I've heard that the FOV is a problem with the prototype but I got some major hopes in this kind of technology. Imagine working with this! This has so much potential it's crazy. I'm sure they will work on this FOV problem and hopefully make it even better with the 2. gen. This is the first time in years that I can see some real futuristic possibilities with a new technology. Forget VR, this is the future.
Coming from a Sony guy btw.
Coming from a Sony guy btw.
Baldwin_the_First
Member
yep, basically.
this was really cool. Minecraft is truly a brilliant game
and 3ds was showing it off in 2010. I think it should be this good now
and 3ds was showing it off in 2010. I think it should be this good now
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Looks incredible.
Man, I can picture playing a RPG on my coffee table.....*salivates*.
Man, I can picture playing a RPG on my coffee table.....*salivates*.
Warm Machine
Member
I could easily put that on my coffee table at home.
They even said there's one mounted on the camera, leading us to think it's the way you would see it if you wore the display.
I'd rather be negative and "salty" than so naïve as to actually believe the bullshit they just sold.
No. People that have tried it have said the viewable area on hololens is quite small. Hololens tech on the cameras isn't accurately representing the FOV.
Windom Earle
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Pathfinder
Member
yup.
Why always the 3rd person with the camera?
How about they mount a camera to the guy's head and show exactly what the HoloLens were to draw on the see-through-display.
obviously, because seeing the minecraft castle be cut off on the sides due to the FoV wouldn't be as impressive and people wouldn't be as amazed by this staged demo of how this technology might work in 5 years to come.
Marty Chinn
Member
you act as if we should expect gen 1 to be massively improved over the demo models.
Why would we? Even Kinect 2.0 wasn't as powerful as the original Kinect demos. Where would you see the reason to expect such an improvement from demo to final release other than ... hope
So Oculus Rift is low res and low refresh rate then too right?
Well even the third-party camera had to have surface awareness, in order to be able to recognize the table and create the illusions of placing shapes over it but not elsewhere. And the tech really *is* amazing, but there's a piece about player limb occlusion they either haven't figured out yet (and don't want to show) or have no solution for it and are fooling people. I hope it's the former not the latter.
Looks cool but I always doubt/question Microsoft presentation/demos/visions.
For instance she mentioned how he could look in the window and bam, your looking in the window, but no command was spoken or pressed to make that happen.
I don't doubt they are working on something great but I doubt how far along they actually are. Especially based on staged demos/presentations.
For instance she mentioned how he could look in the window and bam, your looking in the window, but no command was spoken or pressed to make that happen.
I don't doubt they are working on something great but I doubt how far along they actually are. Especially based on staged demos/presentations.
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
You have to admit, MS have a history of being full of shit when it comes to these demos though.
If Kudo is involved, it was.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
I don't think you do. How is being skeptical salty?Pretty sure I do. Thanks for your concern though.
SmackAttack
Member
It was certainly something.
that was about conventional display technology and processing power.
I think the optics of a see-through display that covers your entire field of vision is less of an issue than just adding a higher refresh rate, higher pixel density panel to your head mounted device.
not saying things can't get better, but there's improvements that are trivial and some that are non trivial.
making Kinect work flawlessly was non-trivial and Microsoft still didn't get it to work, even in Gen 2.
i don't see how anyone could not be a skeptic about Microsoft tech demos. What's the precedent that makes you believe Microsoft would ever demo anything to work the way it actually works. I don't see how they have earned your benefit of the doubt.
ForsakenLotus
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I feel like the hololens presentation is going to fool a lot of people into believing it will look and play like that. I jut don't buy it for a second. Maybe I'm cynical, but that felt about as scripted as a "live gameplay" sequence as I've scene, especially with the very fishy "this camera will project what the dude wearing hololens is/would see.
SRTtoZ
Member
lol great catch. It starts moving back the other way before he moves his hands. Choreographed.
Pathfinder
Member
There's a whole lot more going on in here besides skepticism.
Happens every time Microsoft releases a new technology and shows their forward-thinking.
SkullHydra
Member
Yup. There's no way HoloLens is at this level yet.
forward-thinking is great.
forward-demoing via staged smokes-and-mirrors demos is bad.
there's no agenda here. Show us what you can currently do, tell us what you'd like to be able to do in the future.
showing us stuff that isn't possible currently is shady.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Awesome demo, real convincing stuff.
Still doable in VR mind you, I don't think AR itself had any real impact here, but definitely a great showing, and an excellent way to showcase this stuff to the masses. Minecraft is a great product to advertise.
Still doable in VR mind you, I don't think AR itself had any real impact here, but definitely a great showing, and an excellent way to showcase this stuff to the masses. Minecraft is a great product to advertise.
This is a pivotal technology for me. And I mean that in a bad way.
I find the demos of this to be misleading at best, and yet the response is almost universally positive. And at the same I'm really excited for VR, yet that gets quite a few negative/'gimmick' comments.
I just don't get it.
This has some nice uses for productivity and general use. But for gaming right now it is almost the definition of a gimmick. The actual field of view is supposed to be really low, and the processing power will be low because it needs to be battery powered. So gaming will be very limited.
And that minecraft demo just screams - 'why?'. If anyone has played minecraft, it is all about the immersion and being in the world. Why would you want to look at the world sitting on a table? It'd make a really cool map viewer, but hardly a great gaming experience.
Yet Minecraft in VR *is* a great gaming experience.
For general computing it is incredibly exciting - once they address the field of view. Being able to superimpose computer graphics on the real world. But for gaming I just don't see it.
And why are people buying into the demos? This is the third time they've used the fake camera, and by now we know the field of view is significantly lower. And yet people are still seemingly projecting their desires of what they think it'll be onto it. Weird.
I find the demos of this to be misleading at best, and yet the response is almost universally positive. And at the same I'm really excited for VR, yet that gets quite a few negative/'gimmick' comments.
I just don't get it.
This has some nice uses for productivity and general use. But for gaming right now it is almost the definition of a gimmick. The actual field of view is supposed to be really low, and the processing power will be low because it needs to be battery powered. So gaming will be very limited.
And that minecraft demo just screams - 'why?'. If anyone has played minecraft, it is all about the immersion and being in the world. Why would you want to look at the world sitting on a table? It'd make a really cool map viewer, but hardly a great gaming experience.
Yet Minecraft in VR *is* a great gaming experience.
For general computing it is incredibly exciting - once they address the field of view. Being able to superimpose computer graphics on the real world. But for gaming I just don't see it.
And why are people buying into the demos? This is the third time they've used the fake camera, and by now we know the field of view is significantly lower. And yet people are still seemingly projecting their desires of what they think it'll be onto it. Weird.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
The problems that face AR are far harder to solve and require a lot more new technology than VR's requirement of just needing better screens and higher refresh rates to scale upwards.
dodgykebaab
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It looked good, great idea to show Minecraft running on it. But FOV looked like quite a large limitation of the hardware.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
We're not talking about a released product. This was a staged demo brought to life by an additional camera.
It has nothing to do with the company that makes it. Though it doesn't help they've faked their way through demos before.
dragonzdogma
Member
So is this like the AR cards from 3DS or much more complex?
Also I never played minecraft before, why are the graphics so damn blocky is a throw back to 8 bit ?
Pathfinder
Member
I simply can't imagine what it must be like to go through life and be so cynical as to not be able to get excited by the prospect of new technology.