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Horizon Forbidden West will launch on PS4 too
- Thread starter Craig of War
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MadYarpen
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So it looks like the only improvement is better visuals, and less loading.
It is nice, but not enough to justify buying the console on launch - for me at least.
The game looked fantastic on the base PS4... I hoped next gen sequel would add something to the AI, make the world more complex etc... If they have to make it run on the old cpu, it is not likely
It is nice, but not enough to justify buying the console on launch - for me at least.
The game looked fantastic on the base PS4... I hoped next gen sequel would add something to the AI, make the world more complex etc... If they have to make it run on the old cpu, it is not likely
Stuart360
Member
See it depends for me. If all these cross gen games are 4k/60, then i would much prefer that than a stuttery 30fps at dynamic 4k with better effetcs or ray tracing etc.
Eliciel
Member
Same Here, didn't Look "Next Gen" to me...
Sony's method of saying very little about next gen or its games seem to be creating more hype for the long term and the bad news we get bit by bit only seems to chip away at it a little. It's a great strategy since the games they have shown look amazing. If halo had looked like a next gen game then a lot of the controversy surrounding the game would have died down.
It did look amazing to me but not quite the generational leap I was expecting and this explains why. They probably started making this game right after the last one. Same with Spiderman and the new God of War. I'm guessing the games made from the ground up for next gen won't pop up until at least 2022.
It did look amazing to me but not quite the generational leap I was expecting and this explains why. They probably started making this game right after the last one. Same with Spiderman and the new God of War. I'm guessing the games made from the ground up for next gen won't pop up until at least 2022.
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megreotsugua
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Look at the difference in texture quality. Guerilla Games can of course do it, but at a cost. They will have to fit the next 30 seconds of gameplay inside the RAM and the player can go everywhere. Now if Horizon 1 was made this way, it will not look as good as it does. They can make Horizon Forbidden West have it, but it will look worse than the first game. Horizon 2 looking worse than Horizon 1 is not good marketing-wise. Naturally, they will have to wait for that SSD and fast I/O to implement anything of this sort.
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Type_Raver
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Annnd still look better than Halo Infinite...
Neolombax
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I doubt it but we'll see.
MrFunSocks
Banned
At half the frame rate so it’d better look better.
John Wick
Member
Had what coming?
The shit show that was Halo Infinite got rightly called out.
H2FW looked fanatastic from what was shown. Don't see what the problem was?
MM is just an expansion or small standalone title. I'd release it on PS4 too as it's easy money.
Dibils2k
Member
this is the most disappointing thing to come out, this just confirms it will be another run of the mill open world game just with fast loading
i was really hoping this game would use the SSD in its game design
i see many people going "it will still look great graphically"... really? was this the worry of crossgen for people? lol worry of crossgen is limitations of game design because it has to work on a shitty CPU and cant use SSD for anything other than loading faster
i was really hoping this game would use the SSD in its game design
i see many people going "it will still look great graphically"... really? was this the worry of crossgen for people? lol worry of crossgen is limitations of game design because it has to work on a shitty CPU and cant use SSD for anything other than loading faster
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The second phil mentioned cross generation the Sony fans here have tossed it in xbox fans faces well before Craig. At least Phil is honest and transparent.
John Wick
Member
How do you know? Are you working on the game? The game looked fantastic from what was shown.
MrFunSocks
Banned
You mean the 0% gameplay trailer? That one?
Phrixotrichus
Banned
"we believe in generations"
No matter how you put it, in the end this PS4 release makes it a current gen game with a graphics mode for the PS5. We´re not going to see anything that would go beyond the capabilities of a 2010 mobile CPU or really require an SSD.
Very disappointing.
No matter how you put it, in the end this PS4 release makes it a current gen game with a graphics mode for the PS5. We´re not going to see anything that would go beyond the capabilities of a 2010 mobile CPU or really require an SSD.
Very disappointing.
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Mr. PlayStation
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So the PS4 version of Forbidden West would look similar to PC version of Horizon Zero Dawn, meanwhile the PS5 version would be the truly next gen version in lighting, reflections, texture quality, character models etc akin to the Middle earth shadow of mordor cross gen comparison or COD:Advanced Warfare cross gen comparison
The Unforeseen
Neo Member
Just seen this, and this has no doubt been mentioned countless times, but Xbox got some serious stick for having all that cross gen stuff ... but here we are it's the same across the board. Don't get me wrong, at least a lot of these games are coming sooner and halo was an utter balls up, but still. And im pleased overall, mainly because I was a little underwhelmed by some of these games (while still looking nice), but now I know they are cross gen that fills me with more hope for the games a little further down the road.
TigerKnee
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Makes sense from a financial standpoint. I mean geez people get a grip. I'm not terribly concerned about this "held back" narrative. So what if it is? Less bells and whistles? Like most things in life, the shine eventually wears off. I just want fun games.
I mean let's say this game IS exclusive to PS5? I mean are you be happy paying $80 for a game that will probably last 10-20 hours? To me, that's the thing that upsets me the most out of all the announcements.
I mean let's say this game IS exclusive to PS5? I mean are you be happy paying $80 for a game that will probably last 10-20 hours? To me, that's the thing that upsets me the most out of all the announcements.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
I’m sorry did I miss the announcement that no more games were coming out for PS4? Seems like that is what everyone expected for some stupid reason. Y’all wanted Spider Man DLC and Horizon 2 to not have a current gen port? LOL OK
This shit is beyond silly.
This shit is beyond silly.
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pasterpl
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nope, we were just expecting Sony not to lie about stuff (you know “we believe in generations”), so if we know that this game is also coming to PS4, and take into consideration what mark Cerny said about how slow hdd constrain game design, we can actually say that new horizon will not be a true next gen game
hemo memo
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Surprise surprise. I bet they didn’t want this to be out. Not before launch at least. No. I don’t care about Horzion coming to the PS3 even. The problem us dishonestly and mixed messages. Fuck Sony for this.
Funny how they deliberately deceived by keep repeating “only possible with SSD and the power of PlayStation 5” and Cerny talking about how that will change game design. Yeah. Right.
Funny how they deliberately deceived by keep repeating “only possible with SSD and the power of PlayStation 5” and Cerny talking about how that will change game design. Yeah. Right.
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Esppiral
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This is very common with Ps exclusives, and most of the time people post screenshots of those videos to showcase the graphical fidelity
FranXico
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Halo Infinite being shit has nothing to do with framerate or even legacy hardware.
megreotsugua
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The game looked fantastic on the base PS4... I hoped next gen sequel would add something to the AI, make the world more complex etc... If they have to make it run on the old cpu, it is not likely
I was also hoping for a more complex design, better animation, better AI, better everything. But it looks like they cannot deliver on them while also being a launch window title. My hope is that they're already working on the third iteration simultaneously so that we won't have to wait for too long.
With that said, I'm still looking forward to this game. I really enjoyed the first game.
Garret Bobby Ferguson
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That's actually dissapointing but I'll wait till it drops to see. There probably won't be any real next gen games until god of war which will probably get pushed back, no way they make 2021
SilentUser
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Agreed. This was my biggest letdown. I was expecting some really nice upgrade, but now it is just going to be prettier graphics and much faster loading. Seems like I will remain playing on my PS4 Pro for a while.So it looks like the only improvement is better visuals, and less loading.
It is nice, but not enough to justify buying the console on launch - for me at least.
The game looked fantastic on the base PS4... I hoped next gen sequel would add something to the AI, make the world more complex etc... If they have to make it run on the old cpu, it is not likely
To be honest, I wouldn't feel so letdown if they said from the very first time that this game was also coming to PS4.
hemo memo
Member
Yeah you know how versions only get announced at the last minutes when the news gets out and they can’t lie about it.
The power of HDD and current gen.
Crimson_Fate
Member
I never played part one so I'll pick up a copy for $10 and then I'll wait a year after launch of HW and pick that up on disk as well. If sony wants me to buy a game day one on the PS5 they need to make it next gen "ONLY" and it can't be a remaster ( I'll never pay top dollar for a remaster)
So far the only advantage the launch PS5 has is load times and I suspect that won't change until sometime in 2021
So far the only advantage the launch PS5 has is load times and I suspect that won't change until sometime in 2021
hemo memo
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MadYarpen
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Personally I was expecting this to be the game to show what PS5 is capable of.
I will be happy to play this anyway, but it is possible I'll stick to ps4 now and upgrade my pc for Cyberpunk after all...
megreotsugua
Banned
Yeah I expect climbing through narrow pathways before you get to a significant portion of a game to still be in (Banuk tribe). Also markers for climbing rocky mountains, long bridges, and such. Expertly crafted level design to facilitate loading in the background.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
kinda kicking myself for selling my PS4 lol. oh well. i can just play it on PC whenever it comes out.
SaturnSaturn
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Same i sold it a few days ago, feel like a moron lol
soulbait
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I still have no idea why people get so upset over this. Same thing with people getting upset with the games going to PC. If the games are fun, then why does it matter?
I just see a bunch of whiny people wanting something to validate their purchase, rather than just enjoying their hobby. Declaring it is holding a game back, without even seeing the game yet is silly. Not attempting to understand the economic choices they need to make now (have games on more platforms) due to the demanding costs of making a game nowadays is just childish.
This is just as bad as the whiny gatekeepers of different music genres, because they want to feel special about themselves. It is really what it boils down to: you want to feel like you belong to this special club, playing what you feel like are the best games that only those who belong to your special club can play. It is stupid and childish.
Ya'll continue to whine while us more sane people will just enjoy the games on whichever platforms we choose to buy into.
I just see a bunch of whiny people wanting something to validate their purchase, rather than just enjoying their hobby. Declaring it is holding a game back, without even seeing the game yet is silly. Not attempting to understand the economic choices they need to make now (have games on more platforms) due to the demanding costs of making a game nowadays is just childish.
This is just as bad as the whiny gatekeepers of different music genres, because they want to feel special about themselves. It is really what it boils down to: you want to feel like you belong to this special club, playing what you feel like are the best games that only those who belong to your special club can play. It is stupid and childish.
Ya'll continue to whine while us more sane people will just enjoy the games on whichever platforms we choose to buy into.
Fbh
Member
Literally none of the big PS4 exclusives of the first year were on PS3, add to that their whole talk about "believing in generations and how cross gen can stagnate innovation" and it makes sense that people didn't expect this.
To be hones Spiderman wasn't surprising. It's a launch game, coming only 2 years after the original (basically ensuring a lot asset recycling) and they've been direct about it not being a full-blown sequel.
But Horizon is unexpected and disappointing for sure.
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TigerKnee
Member
My theory? Microsoft's Series S/X pricing. Caused them to price their SKU's lower than they wanted to and now they have to recoup somehow.
Those 4 months make the difference.. I think not . Games take years to make , they where well on the way and knew it was for PS4 and 5.
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Entroyp
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So they will port the game down to PS4 in under a year?
4 months? The epidemic is not over. And yes, this make the difference, first because they couldn't produce the consoles they was expecting, second because economical crisis on a ton of countries will slow the upgrade from current gen to next gen.
FromDuskTillGameOver
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Scalability IS the next-gen. MS knows that, Nintendo knows that and now Sony finally admitting it too.