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[Rock And Roll]

Extremely late to the party here but I'm glad this is the case. Horizon was one of my favourite PS4 games and one of my favourite Sony games. That being said, I was not going to drop $600+ Canadian to play it. I'm glad I'll be able to go through it with the rest of you at launch!

 

[Investor9872]

What ever happened to "Here at Sony we believe in generations."

 

[93xfan]

This was really surprising. Very contrary to their message for it to be cross gen in 2021

 

[Pimpbaa]

Probably will see increased texture resolution, better lighting, and LOD transitions push further into the distance on PS5 but world geometry will be constrained by the PS4.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Extremely late to the party here but I'm glad this is the case. Horizon was one of my favourite PS4 games and one of my favourite Sony games. That being said, I was not going to drop $600+ Canadian to play it. I'm glad I'll be able to go through it with the rest of you at launch!

Like any new gen, unless someone has to have the latest gear, the launch games (more like launch year) are basically up-ports anyway. There's only a handful of dedicated next gen games and there's no guarantee any of them will be great anyway.

Look at 2013. Knack, KZ SF, Resogun, Ryse, KI and Forza 5. Not exactly a ball busting awesome line up.

Just wait it out.

The good thing about these recent systems is studios can be generous on enhancement and upgrade patches, so when someone gets a new system later, you'll probably get a free next gen upgrade patch. So assuming you value playing the game again, you can do it a year later with upgrade patches.

 

[dwish]

Man, 79.99 euros for some of those games... makes no sense when its 69.99 USD ☹

 

[quest]

Man, 79.99 euros for some of those games... makes no sense when its 69.99 USD ☹

Jim ryan at Sony headquarters.

 

[KungFucius]

I'm cancelling my PS5 pre order. PS4 is holding next gen back.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

Like any new gen, unless someone has to have the latest gear, the launch games (more like launch year) are basically up-ports anyway. There's only a handful of dedicated next gen games and there's no guarantee any of them will be great anyway.

Look at 2013. Knack, KZ SF, Resogun, Ryse, KI and Forza 5. Not exactly a ball busting awesome line up.

Just wait it out.

The good thing about these recent systems is studios can be generous on enhancement and upgrade patches, so when someone gets a new system later, you'll probably get a free next gen upgrade patch. So assuming you value playing the game again, you can do it a year later with upgrade patches.

Killzone Shadow Fall is still one of the better looking games of the generation, what point are you making there?

 

[Gavon West]

Lol, this can't be real

I told people a while ago, no generation is promised to anyone. Not even Sony. And then they raise the price of games and charging the same price for weaker hardware and a half cocked attempt at something like GP, yet, still not in the same league.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

I told people a while ago, no generation is promised to anyone. Not even Sony. And then they raise the price of games and charging the same price for weaker hardware and a half cocked attempt at something like GP, yet, still not in the same league.

You say not in the same league... but like... every game is amazing. Looks like quality over quantity to me.

 

[kriolo]

You’ve being sonyed fellassssss

 

[Gavon West]

You say not in the same league... but like... every game is amazing. Looks like quality over quantity to me.

"To you"

Key words there..

 

[Explosive Zombie]

"To you"

Key words there..

I mean... to a lot of people? Like... they're mostly pretty popular games, in fact the only draw back I can see is most people already played them.

 

[Panajev2001a]

charging the same price for weaker hardware

Lol... you and your power obsession. You won in a metric out of several whoohoo (and lost in others...)

 

[Panajev2001a]

Man, 79.99 euros for some of those games... makes no sense when its 69.99 USD ☹

The only game at that price includes a remaster of another game. How many games (plural) are $79?

 

[DJT123]

I recall someone who may or may not be banned saying HZD on PC will look better than HZD2...

 

[Panajev2001a]

Probably will see increased texture resolution, better lighting, and LOD transitions push further into the distance on PS5 but world geometry will be constrained by the PS4.

You can also see more NPC’s and objects as you can instance more and more of those, improve surface shaders and facial animation, lower loading times, RT reflections, etc...

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Scalability baby!

But remember, when MS tries to do it, it ruins the gaming industry and holds everything back. When Sony does it, suddently it's a clever business move.

 

[CrustyBritches]

PS4 game at 4K high/ultra mix with a dash of low/mid grade RT reflections = PS5 game.

 

[scalman]

They will come on both but wont look same for sure. So its choice what you need , same as fof why ppl upgrade their gpu cpu on pc, if no want stay with old and still play it but not maxed. Same here. Its a choice but its cheap one compare to pc or even new xsx.
it costs less then other stuff new phone new hdtv new audio system etc. This is cheapest new thing.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

But remember, when MS tries to do it, it ruins the gaming industry and holds everything back. When Sony does it, suddently it's a clever business move.

I mean... these games look better than Halo Infinite...

 

[zizou6971]

Sooooo... Are there any actual next gen games left? R&C? Shame Horizon 2 is gonna be held back by being on PS4.

I thought Sony believed in generations.

Sony believes in money just like any other Publisher.

 

[sinnergy]

Omg sorry but this is not a bit but extremely laughable

So engines do scale ?
It was the best looking game at the PS5 reveal right ?

 

[mcjmetroid]

This announcement actually made me laugh hard.

Months and months people were laughing at Microsoft for this.

Now what is sure to be one of the most technically impressive game for the ps5 is coming to ps4.

And to make matters more interesting it's not even a seperate game if they're promising you can upgrade it to ps5.

That means there can be little difference in the gameplay and it makes me very sad for all next gen games Xbox or Sony.

 

[RoadHazard]

Sony believes in money just like any other Publishers.

 

[zizou6971]

Yeah I’m too disappointed but can’t do nothing about it. I won’t get it on launch though.

 

[sinnergy]

Possible only with the power of the secret SSD sauce!

Yup, but most here didn’t want to hear it all...

 

[PleaseWaitStation4]

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Why does it look so good though? When others try this their games end up looking less than adequate.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

Why does it look so good though? When others try this their games end up looking less than adequate.

Two reasons in my mind...

1. game isn't as good looking as cut-scene trailer we saw
2. ps4 version is a down port

 

[kuncol02]

Omg sorry but this is not a bit but extremely laughable

So engines do scale ?
It was the best looking game at the PS5 reveal right ?

Was that even game on reveal? I haven't saw any gameplay in that trailer. For all I know that could be another "inengine" and "recorded on console" trailer like Uncharted 4.

 

[sinnergy]

Was that even game on reveal? I haven't saw any gameplay in that trailer. For all I know that could be another "inengine" and "recorded on console" trailer like Uncharted 4.

I took Sony’s and the fans word for it that it was all real and running in real-time on PS5.

 

[kuncol02]

I took Sony’s and the fans word for it that it was all real and running in real-time on PS5.

After Motorstom and Killzone on PS3 and Uncharted 4 on PS4 Sony's word means literally nothing for me. I will not believe anything they show as long as it will not be played be some independent journalist.

 

[TonyK]

So that SSD magic sauce is not so needed. I'm disapointed. I liked the idea of a true generational jump :/

 

[meech]

It will definitely be held back. We were expecting to override the flying bird and fly them over the landscape. I just hope that they're making Horizon 3 simultaneously so won't have to wait for too long.

I never believed that this was issue with the hardware. Battlefield games have flying and first person combat, so obviously
Horizon could have that too.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

I never believed that this was issue with the hardware. Battlefield games have flying and first person combat, so obviously
Horizon could have that too.

I thought the idea was how far and how fast you can fly. A battlefield map is fully loaded in for everyone before it begins, so obviously the plane can fly all around it, but there will still be pop-in, sometimes aggressive.

 

[DForce]

I recall someone who may or may not be banned saying HZD on PC will look better than HZD2...

And it doesn't.

 

[DForce]

So that SSD magic sauce is not so needed. I'm disapointed. I liked the idea of a true generational jump :/

They can still take advantage of the SSD without fully utilizing it.

 

[DJT123]

And it doesn't.

Maxed out on a high-end PC vs HZD2 on a PS4?

 

[DForce]

Maxed out on a high-end PC vs HZD2 on a PS4?

You realize that you can max out HZD on PC with a RTX 2070 Super, a card that's comparable to the PS5 GPU, right?

 

[Infested Goblin]

 

[DJT123]

You realize that you can max out HZD on PC with a RTX 2070 Super, a card that's comparable to the PS5 GPU, right?

I'm saying HZD2 won't look better on PS4 than HZD will on a PC with the kind of GFX card you mentioned. It would be lower resolution for one thing, and we can keep going from there.

 

[DForce]

I'm saying HZD2 won't look better on PS4 than HZD will on a PC with the kind of GFX card you mentioned. It would be lower resolution for one thing, and we can keep going from there.

Your initial statement was referencing a banned user who said HZD on PC may or may not look better than HZD 2 on PS5.

It makes no sense because if HZD can be maxed out with a RTX 2070, then the PlayStation 5 can play it at the same ultra/4k settings similar to PC.

For the statement to be true, then HZD2 graphics would either have to stay the same or look worse than HZD1.

 

[DJT123]

Your initial statement was referencing a banned user who said HZD on PC may or may not look better than HZD 2 on PS5.

It makes no sense because if HZD can be maxed out with a RTX 2070, then the PlayStation 5 can play it at the same ultra/4k settings similar to PC.

For the statement to be true, then HZD2 graphics would either have to stay the same or look worse than HZD1.

I see what you mean. I wouldn't go that far. I'm just saying he's technically being proven right about HZD on PC looking better than HZD 2 on PlayStation- but that's leaving next-gen aside- which we still don't know much about.

 

[EDMIX]

I don't think anything is wrong with them being on PS4 if that is what they intended, but I do think something is wrong not marketing it that way when those games were originally announced as many of us stated how close some of those titles looked like last gen titles simply sharper.

 

[the_master]

Looks pretty next-gen to me. I guess the PS4 version will be more of a demake. That's fine too.

You mean, the cinematic trailer looks next gen.
Maybe that's why they haven't showed gameplay, cinematic trailers always look next gen XD

 

[Stuart360]

You mean, the cinematic trailer looks next gen.
Maybe that's why they haven't showed gameplay, cinematic trailers always look next gen XD

Plus most of the fantastic looking cutscenes in HZD were actually rendered videos, i wonder how many people knew that. Its hard to tell as the video quality used is very high, but as soon as most cutscenes start on the PC version, gpu usage drops to almost nothing, a tell tale sign of video over actual graphics.

 

[oldergamer]

So much for last gen holding next gen games back, right guys?? I told u that narrative was BS created by the gaming media and not actual developers. Sony literally has more cross gen games announced the MS

 

[TintoConCasera]

What ever happened to "Here at Sony we believe in generations."

Yeah, generations, in plural. :^)