Nevadatan
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IGN: The Last Guardian cancelled, mayhaps; Sony: Nope - Stage XI: Mole Hunt
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maquiladora
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And that leaves out the Neil Druckmann controversy, and their comically inept PS4 vs. Xbox spec tech chart which made it appear like there was literally almost no difference between the two. Stuff like "AMD GPU" as the only information.
They're an embarrassing site. They shouldn't be banned though; we're strong enough to continue to mock them. ZERO editorial standards.
Sony is responsible for the editorial decisions at IGN apparently.
LowParry
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I was being facetious.
Edit: Poking fun at the whole officially cancelled game with no source
Oh. I'm okay with that. Ha!
Shin-Ra
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Wasn't that Gamespot or was it both?
akidnamededdy
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I would be upset if IGN was banned before Polygon.
Whoever's giving the presentation tomorrow should call the IGN reps in attendance up to the front row and sit them in special reserved seats before they show the new TLG trailer. That would be fun.
Whoever's giving the presentation tomorrow should call the IGN reps in attendance up to the front row and sit them in special reserved seats before they show the new TLG trailer. That would be fun.
Savantcore
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Yeah, exactly, but it seems like a lot of people have taken this little episode as an indication - even confirmation - that TLG will be there tomorrow. There's gonna be a lot of sad faces, perhaps.
You know, there are a lot of calls here to ban IGN... but honestly, I don't think that's necessary.
Sure, they've had some articles in which they were totally spot off. But we also got enough information from IGN that in fact was correct. I believe they were one of the first to report about Sony's VR headset, for example, nearly a year ahead of its unveil.
They can be a valuable source of information.
Sure, they've had some articles in which they were totally spot off. But we also got enough information from IGN that in fact was correct. I believe they were one of the first to report about Sony's VR headset, for example, nearly a year ahead of its unveil.
They can be a valuable source of information.
Probably Gamespot too, but IGN definitely did it. I argued with GDJustin from IGN on NeoGAF about it. They later changed the comparison chart, but there was all sorts of excuses about who makes the visual data for the articles and how it wasn't anyone's fault. Just excuses. No editorial standards, ever.
Holding out for Kart Souls
Hibiki Kurosawa
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Also leaves out the claim they made to asking Reggie if Fire Emblem Awakening was going to be localized when it was actually Kotaku and IGN only overheard the conversation, then editted the article later.
CheDominik
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It's not about embarassing a media outlet ot generating hype or a huge surprise. It's about someone claming something was official when it clearly wasn't. You can't let shit like that pass.
Every company that takes itself seriously would do the same.
Initially when this happened, I was thinking Sony commenting at all was an indication it wouldn't be there, because it seemed redundant to confirm it's in development a day before revealing a trailer. But given the Adam Boyes tweet, I think it is going to be there.
All can only be clear tomorrow if they formally cancel it, or they show it, and they're not going to boast about canceling it.
Imperfected
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Eh, if you mean a financial success, Blizzard has basically made a career at this point of interminable development cycles that produce incredibly profitable games. Not particularly recommended, but it's hardly unprecedented.
That said, they probably crossed the line where it was actually possible to make back the development budget of this game a few years ago.
I always get a good laugh out of that Football Manager review.
nssdigitalchumps
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I'm not arguing in favor of embarrassing IGN (although I believe they deserve it), nor am I specifically saying that Sony should embarrass IGN with the footage. I'm saying that I think that the chances of them showing footage doesn't seem likely based on the way that Sony addressed the issue. If they had simply remained silent and showed the game tomorrow, they would inadvertently embarrass IGN who were completely confident in their story before the tweet, and are now backpedaling.
I understand the issue of IGN's failure in writing stories and the lack of quality (and it's definitely a big issue and extremely bad), I just wasn't addressing that with my post, I was talking about the chances of a re-reveal of The Last Guardian itself.
cuzintheboss
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Crazy how many pages this thread is.
nssdigitalchumps
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Somewhere in Russia, someone's laughing...
CMojicaAce
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Have Andrew House bring out a chair and place it on the stage and invite Steve Butts to sit in it. Then The Last Guardian trailer plays. When he gets up from the chair, a spotlight will focus on him walking back to his seat while everyone points and laughs.
LowParry
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For MS? Maybe. Sony? Nah.
Jesus officially confirmed
Choked to death on crow feathers, what a way to go.
LowParry
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I'm curious. Would if we see something. What will you do. What will you say. Tell use your true feelings. Other than that, I'm bringing some dubstep in tomorrow when we see nothing. Wubwubwubwub.
What's up with IGN and thieir Russofobien, it's like they want to start a WW3
Ok, I'm sorry. I know everyone has laughed plenty already during this thread, but I just can't.
I just can't.
CMojicaAce
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I imagine this lol
Lmao exactly.
This is perfect!
CheDominik
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Hit reply too quickly and didn't finish my point. Sorry.
IMO how they addressed it didn't increase or decrease the chances of new TLG footage. They couldn't sit on their hands when someone claimed something was cancelled officially. I think it didn't matter if it was TLG or random game X, they just had to respond the way the original tweet/headline was worded, regardless if there is new footage.
SDCowboy
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Imagine if it actually gets shown tomorrow.
charlequin
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Not estimates, pulled-out-of-their-ass guesses. We've watched numbers go up that are orders of magnitude over the actual shipped quantity for some games, and other similarly large divergences.
The absolute best case scenario is that they're distributing NPD data they're not supposed to have or to share, and which we wouldn't post here if we had it directly. More often they have numbers that give actively incorrect pictures of a game's performance, like several recent cases where users asserted a certain trend in the sales of specific niche releases based on VGC numbers, but both NPD numbers and publisher reports disagreed.
As a general rule, many of us have been part of Sales-Age on GAF for 8+ years; we've been over every possible permutation of analysis of this site's numbers and the site ban is for very good reason. For seasoned members we usually just ban right-out for their numbers. So: don't post them, and don't allude to them with "well I heard X sold better than Y" constructions.
We are way more likely to ban or junior a user for making a worthless thread about a dumb editorial than to ban the site that posted it. Posters need to use discretion in what is and is not worth discussing. IGN isn't getting banned.
Not going to follow up further on either issue here. Let's get back to Last-Guardian-Death-Slash-Resurrection-Watch.
It would be too funny if cboat drops a bomb before the ms conference
Until the error message pays "GAME NOT FOUND".
Steve takes the chair off the stage grinning ear to ear.
Sure, I can see that as well. Guess we'll find out tomorrow, then, haha.
Crimson_Gold
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Like a shart in white pants
This makes tomorrow all the more glorious. The hype is off the charts.
Krusenstern
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The announcement threads of these games alone will probably go over multiple threads each.
For me, I think the trailer will be shown tomorrow based on the fact that last year, we had some gaf insiders hinting it would be there but, when it wasnt, we had someone (Verendus?) saying that it was pulled for some reason.
Then we had a TGS "where is TLG" thread were GophieD responds with "its coming"
Then as recent as May, there was a "Rumor: TLG will be shown at E3 2014" thread where the rumor was debunked by page 3 or 4 when GopherD suddenly pops in and just says "bookmarked".
Now we have Shu and Rodhe loling at IGN over their article.
Its all shaky evidence but its what Im going with. TLG will be shown tomorrow.
Then we had a TGS "where is TLG" thread were GophieD responds with "its coming"
Then as recent as May, there was a "Rumor: TLG will be shown at E3 2014" thread where the rumor was debunked by page 3 or 4 when GopherD suddenly pops in and just says "bookmarked".
Now we have Shu and Rodhe loling at IGN over their article.
Its all shaky evidence but its what Im going with. TLG will be shown tomorrow.
fastballspecial
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I haven't been back in almost 15 hours or so. Steve Butts still hasn't even come close to saying "sorry for the mishap" or anything of the sort, eh? From what I can tell both him and IGN are still trying to blame sources. Shit's crazy to me. Dude didn't have a gun to his head being told to run the story. He chose to. He takes the fall. Simple.
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