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IGN's on their defective PS4 [Up: Sony - less than 0.4% of shipped units affected]
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Well, that's too much to be a coincidence.
So your maybe insinuating it was where he sourced information for his made up quote?
Believing Sony right now is much better than participating in the flame wars and panic going on right now.
Hopefully once people get their PS4s and it works, this will blow over.
maabus1999
Member
May be a misprint, but Sony's statement said "shipped" so they could be defining the total amount they are "analyzing" as who knows what.
Like I mentioned earlier, everyone should just proceed as normal, and if there is an issue, we'll know in the next few days. No reason to panic and no reason to ask Sony what's going on. They probably don't know yet themselves.
uncledonnie
Banned
I guess the fact that the words in the MS response are *exactly* the same made the sarcasm pretty obvious to me.
SneakySneaks
Member
If you stayed up and watched the stream like I did last night, yeah it belongs on the barometer for dealing with tech issues now.
I don't expect this to end up being a widespread issue, Taco Bell gave out 4500+ PS4s during their contest, and assume another 100 to journalists.Let's assume 60% of those people haven't received their Taco Bell PS4, haven't hooked it up yet, or wouldn't come online and post about it if their out of the box PS4 was boned, that leaves around 1850 people, and assuming around 19 of those people had PS4s go belly up, that's still 1% of the total. Bump that up to 5%, which is still considered a pretty low defect rate, that would be 95 people.
I feel like if this were a more widespread issue we would have heard a lot more than a random person here and there equaling less than 10 at this point.
I feel like if this were a more widespread issue we would have heard a lot more than a random person here and there equaling less than 10 at this point.
I think we have like 6x that percentage 'pseudo-confirmed' out in the wild already.
no, but its obviously just a PR statement. Come on use your head, .04% failure rate isnt even possible in modern electronics
fluffydelusions
Member
What about demo units in game stop /best buy. Do those count
Ouch I only had 3, and I fixed my 2nd one like 8 times, which in turn voided the warranty. I feel your pain.
Think about what you just said. Unless you somehow think SONY can replicate ps4s down to the subatomic level to where every single system is a 100% exact match, there will always be faulty units.
Even at extremely low failure rates you'll still have a lot of dead units. It doesn't matter when you buy the console, there's always a chance. Even at 0.4%, that's still 4000 dead PS4's out of a million (assuming I did the math correctly...).
Colbert
Banned
Oh my god, that was a joke I found in a blog .... Copy/paste....
Holy shit. I never knew it was that high. The true peoples champ of hardware failures.
Also I am not just going to trust random reddict pots or twitter posts.
SeaOfMadness
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0.04% of "shipped" units. Well duh, 99.9% of shipped units are sitting on store shelves (or in warehouses) waiting to be purchased. It's a great way to spin the number, though.
I don't even know what I'm insinuating. Maybe he shouldn't have used quotes on his made up comment; however Microsoft did throw down a similar (maybe not word for word) PR line.
I'm not defending him, just sayin - this been said before.
Please don't post things like that again. Thank you.
Sony: ps4 is fine, shut up
Hindenburg commander: everything is fine, shut up
See what I'm getting it?
Suspicious junior is suspicious.
Can you provide some kind of proof?
If we've only got 10 cases so far, then what's the problem? Isn't this pretty normal for a new hardware launch? Seems to me like this is paranoia left over from Microsoft's red ring fiasco. Seems a little unfair to jump on top of a completely different company because of that. You won't know if there is a genuine fault for weeks. Personally, i'm assuming that Sony actually tested them.
BruiserBear
Banned
His point made sense to me. To summarize the joke, we will know nothing until a million consoles are in people's hands in the next week. So PR making PR statements means nothing.
and for historical note, Microsoft did claim, even the week after launch when reports of problems began popping up, that nothing was out of the norm. If we don't hear a rash of reported broken consoles a week from now, things should be just fine.
Kacho
Member
Good man.
dreamer3kx
Member
Talk about overreactions in here, jeez relax.
razgriz417
Member
I think he found it in the IGN article update
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/14/broken-playstation-4-systems
edit: o you meant the MS part lol
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Congrats. Now that will be quoted by others as fact. Hope you feel better about that.
cookie-monster
Member
indeed, most of the units "shipped" are still in distribution, warehouses, or shop stock areas. It's a meaningless bit of PR.
of course I do. My point is that just throwing numbers out there for the fuck of it accomplishes nothing. Unless of course someone here is actually a QA engineer at a consumer electronics company routinely familiar with the failure rate on product launches with millions of units shipped. If so I'll gladly listen to what they have to say.
I hate to actually type these words ugghh but we are in a age of social media where the vocal minority has never been louder.
Dragonborn
Member
Man, why are people already saying this is RROD again already? I really hope they're just kidding when they say that because if you're serious then wow.
I was referring to MS' initial PR handling of RRoD, not the actual defect itself. If anything I wouldn't even call RRoD the most widespread gaming defect ever. Pretty sure damn near 100% of launch Playstations had the magnets that were susceptible to heat from the system.
I'd love to see that blog for myself.
Jonathan28
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Supposedly some people went through as much as 10 360's, that could be nonsense though, I don;t think anyone could make it that high. I was at breaking point when no.6 died, by no.10 I would have been seeing red.
Parapraxis
Member
I really hope this issue is mostly relegated to the "first batch" and not to when production went into full swing.
Is it possible the ones sent out for gaming sites and contests could have been a little rushed, and didn't get proper testing?
Is it possible the ones sent out for gaming sites and contests could have been a little rushed, and didn't get proper testing?
You left out the ones on Ebay and Craigslist
Point being, it's too early to draw any conclusions.
This weekend, go nuts.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Have the people freaking out never been through a hardware launch before? Calm the eff down, it'll be ok.
Unless you're one of the people whose console broke. Then you're entitled to freak out a little bit.
Unless you're one of the people whose console broke. Then you're entitled to freak out a little bit.
PJV3
Member
You know somebody here probably has a map and is logging the status of all known PS4's.
Gaming is a passion.
SeaOfMadness
Member
It specifically says "shipped" units. Like I said, the vast majority of those are sitting in boxes, yet to be opened.
Not how you presented it, and look at all the people who took it as fact.
Still smells of FUD.
That was 2009. It would have ended up even higher. The problem with the launch units got worse as you used them, it had to be higher. It was a design mess up. Any launch unit that was played enough, would eventually break. I think the problem stayed in there until the slim model, though they improved it a bit with the Jasper model i think.
Telephoto999
Member
Really?
Why would I lie?
I have two of the consoles showing up from Amazon tomorrow.
I have no interest either way, I just don't want mine to do the same thing.
Opus Angelorum
Member
I don't think this is a serious issue, but it will certainly be bad for little Johnny on Christmas day if his PS4 dies.
MaizeRage25
Member
Came here to post this.
We'll have a much better idea of how widespread it is this time tomorrow.
I also agree that 0.04% failure rate would be spectacular for a new product like this, and it is almost guaranteed to be much higher.
Yeah frightning, from that link:
Console failure rate
Xbox 360 54.2%
Playstation 3 10.6%
Wii 6.8%
Percentage of console owners who suffered a second hardware failure after the original repair.
Xbox 360 41.2%
Playstation 3 14.7%
Wii 11%
Percentage of respondents whose friends have had console hardware failures.
Xbox 360 69.9%
Playstation 3 12.4%
Wii 6%
So at 0.04% (so far) and industry standard at 3-4%...... we are perfectly okay
- and would actually be proud numbersTrue, colbert can we get a link?
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