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IGN's on their defective PS4 [Up: Sony - less than 0.4% of shipped units affected]
- Thread starter The Elite
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So the 0.04% number Sony gave is wrong. ~5000 in-use PS4s would mean 2 faults, and we know there are more than that. Meaning a few possibilities.
You'd expect the number of faults to start very low and increase over the life of the console as parts get old, wear and tear etc. So options 2 and 3 seem too high, unless it's a really serious issue. So I'd assume option 1. But who knows, Sony aren't making it simple by giving us bad info/terminology (0.04%/"shipped")...
*Edit oops messed my maths up, the shame!
- 0.4% of 5000 (20/5000 faults) - A typo by Sony, meaning 0.4% of all consoles are faulty.
- 4% of 5000 (200/5000 faults) - A maths error, 4% being the same as 0.04, meaning 4% of all consoles are faulty.
- 0.04% of 1.5mil (600/5000 faults) - Fault rate including all the shipped PS4s, meaning 12% of all consoles are faulty.
You'd expect the number of faults to start very low and increase over the life of the console as parts get old, wear and tear etc. So options 2 and 3 seem too high, unless it's a really serious issue. So I'd assume option 1. But who knows, Sony aren't making it simple by giving us bad info/terminology (0.04%/"shipped")...
*Edit oops messed my maths up, the shame!
Polygon's stream crashed to safe mode and im fairly sure giant bomb said their first ps4 had some issues?
Giant bomb im not 100% but the polygon stream crashed to safe mode fo sho
A guess, but I think they're probably counting debug units and retail demo units (globally) too. Which are supposedly the same hardware as retail.
Still don't know if that would add up - no idea how many such units in total would be out there. A mix up between percentages and fractions somewhere along the line wouldn't surprise me either.
I'm not sure a crash really counts here... I'm pretty sure nearly all my (modern, at least) systems have crashed on me at some point or another. Some of them quite a lot more than once.
But is the console dead? Twitch can crash. This is not indicative of hardware failure. Just issues with the stream.
PJV3
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What is that Percentage wise?
Polygon's unit was fine though...not a major issue (it is an issue though) seeing as how systems tend to crash occasionally.
And I have not heard anything on Giant Bomb having an issue.
And a crash is hardly a "similar issue"
So not a failure, a crash.
Be careful with putting things forward in a certain manner, it allows for people to take an ambiguous post like yours an run away with it as fact.
We are talking about failures in this thread fella.
Those are not bricks. Unstability is to be expected from new hardware. My vita was crashing all the time at launch, now it's fine.
I didnt mean failures my bad, I just meant problems.
Crashing I get, crashing to safe mode sounds more, idk, ominous?
You do realize that happened to 2 different major game site and 1 console per site, right?
It just sounds like, not good.
It sounds a lot like it could just be the initial push of systems, like a "bad batch" or something.
Colbert
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Yes I updated my post after seeing the reactions. I learn from my mistakes. Shouldn't I have done this for future readers? I can undo it ...
And a majority of sites have reported no problems.
Yea, I am sure Sony will want to get their hands on one and know what batch it came from. It's kind of rattling for us early adopters hoping not to get a DOA unit friday.
It's going to be incredibly difficult to get any sort of gauge on how widespread this is.
Every reported failure is going to generate hundreds of posts of speculation. No one will believe a thing Sony says about numbers after we all got fucked over with RROD last gen :/
It's out of the current units shipped. The Taco Bell ones + journalists etc.
Every reported failure is going to generate hundreds of posts of speculation. No one will believe a thing Sony says about numbers after we all got fucked over with RROD last gen :/
It's out of the current units shipped. The Taco Bell ones + journalists etc.
That could be possible but we don't know which consoles were in that batch. Myself and others have seen a lot of PS4 streams going and outside of that small handful I didn't see any problems besides the Twitch app crashing.
We just have to wait until it releases because these handful of people out of the couple of thousands that has the console makes it look big due to the social media.
Can we have a link to the blog post you got it from?
I remember IGN said a PR rep came in to take it back to look into it when they had issues, so maybe sony was completed blindsided by this. This really just might be a small number of units went out with a tiny defect. Something they can fix right away for the rest
MrPressStart
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All this math today. I feel like I am back in school. All I can say is that I am more confused than ever. I will go to midnight launch, buy my console, pass on the warranty unless they can promise me that they can replace it with a new one in store.... go home and attempt to set it up with fingers crossed.
I really wnated to keep it sealed until I move back into our house and break this bad boy out on my Sony w900 I am going to hopefuly get soon... but I think I need to make sure it works.
I really wnated to keep it sealed until I move back into our house and break this bad boy out on my Sony w900 I am going to hopefuly get soon... but I think I need to make sure it works.
Not the same as full-on HW failure, obviously.
Ahh thanks. I don't follow Twitter.
Seems just like game crashes which are normal, not really the same thing the poster was talking about.
dreamer3kx
Member
Come on man, now we're talking crashing in, here, my ps3 still crashes, doesn't count, do over.
Careful - this might get you in trouble.
Not the same as full-on HW failure, obviously.
The Wii U had similar issues at launch, it's fine now. Probably to be expected after a firmware update that appears to have only been ready a few hours before launch.
MrPressStart
Member
ON a lighter noted
I think the lady at Gamestop hit on me when I was paying off my system the other day. She told me that my games (I was trading in) smelt nice. She said you always have the best smelling games....
I said thanks, but now I feel like I need to live up to this expecation from here on out. So I will start spraying my game cases with cologne before I trade them in I guess.
I think the lady at Gamestop hit on me when I was paying off my system the other day. She told me that my games (I was trading in) smelt nice. She said you always have the best smelling games....
I said thanks, but now I feel like I need to live up to this expecation from here on out. So I will start spraying my game cases with cologne before I trade them in I guess.
Right, I see. I suppose the failure rate will rise as more consoles get out to people in the coming days. We'll get a better idea on the failure rate soon I guess, it seems high from what's out there right now but that might just be the vocal minority. I expected Sony to say something like 0.4% or even 4% of shipped units affected, so unless that number is a mistake that failure rate is really low.
I can assure with confidence that the rate of failure will increase from 0.04% when PS4 reaches 1M consoles sold. Consumer Electronic Devices have an expected failure rate attached. Warranties exist to respond to that. Those 4000+ users with malfunction devices will have a replacement device as per law. Ultimately, it's a numbers game. And the current failure rate is a pretty negligible number.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Lets have fun!!
Funny.
cebri.one
Member
You are asking some people to be reasonable, not happening in the middle of a console war.
PJV3
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NullPointer
Member
Low failure rates? Sound good so far. The only issue I see is being one of the few who does get a bad box, since you won't be able to just swap at the place you bought it. You'll need to ship it out to Sony.
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KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
wut.
I don't really get the fear that some have. Regardless of whether you believe or don't believe Sony's assessment of the failure rate, you always have warranty were your console to be defective. Or do some people not have mandatory warranty on such products in their countries? (The law dictates a minimum warranty of one year on all such products here.)
Xbox Ones will fail. Have no doubt about that.
Snapshot King
Member
Don't do this. You're turning used games into migraine traps for people like me with perfume allergies.
It's fear of not being able to play that shiny new console at launch.
I think she's only interested in his trade-ins. That's not something I'd like to part with.
CrackPebbles
Member
Thats really cute in a creepy way.
The fact that FB was barely opening up to the general populous and Twitter wasn't even a real thing last gen marks a notable change for this generation. System launches are always trainwrecks, this one is just going to be a trainwreck shouted from the top of every mountain.
Social Media, because nothing says Likes & Twitter Followers like drama.
Social Media, because nothing says Likes & Twitter Followers like drama.
Basically this. Its a little short sighted but man...its been 8 years.
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