Beyond could benefit from being thrown in the trash. For a game really trying to push the envelope plot wise, it makes seemingly every single mistake it possibly could.
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inFamous: Second Son Characters Polygon Count revealed (120k Polygons)
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Beyond could benefit from being thrown in the trash. For a game really trying to push the envelope plot wise, it makes seemingly every single mistake it possibly could.
Giant Panda
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That seems a little overkill in the polygon department. For a while now polygons haven't usually been the weak point in videogame graphics.
dragonbane
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That only happens when the game saves. It's a bug and has nothing to do with the framerate fortunately. Disable saving in the menu and the game never freezes even once
It also works fine for me with saving enabled, but that seems dependent on the PS3 model similar with some bugs in TLoU.That's certainly an opinion. No reason to be so aggressive towards people expressing their own tho. It was a success sales wise, many people including me loved it and it seems like it will get a remaster on PS4. So it won't go anywhere. You will have to accept that it is a common and valid opinion to like the game.
legacyzero
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That's not even the most impressive to me.
Some of the best lighting and Facial Capture I've seen yet.
Some of the best lighting and Facial Capture I've seen yet.
Jdnathan11
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ultratruman
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What? Yes you can. I specifically remember blowing people off their rooftop lounge chairs. All the DUP structures are destructible and a fair amount of the city is too.
liquidspeed
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the chairs and stuff do tip over.
What open world games allow you to destroy a corner of a building or put a dent in the road that stays there?
perineumlick
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What does this have to do with a thread about polygon counts?
NoMoreTrolls
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Lol it's somewhatgroovy. Don't even bother.
Uh yes there are. You can blow up cars, you can blow up check points, you can blow up other debris. Everything isn't fully destructible though.
That only happens when the game saves. It's a bug and has nothing to do with the framerate fortunately. Disable saving in the menu and the game never freezes even once
That's certainly an opinion. No reason to be so aggressive towards people expressing their own tho. It was a success sales wise, many people including me loved it and it seems like it will get a remaster on PS4. So it won't go anywhere. You will have to accept that it is a common and valid opinion to like the game.
No need to be aggressive? The game is insanely offensive towards the mentally ill and Native Americans. It has no cohesive plot, characters do things for absolutely no reason, there is no consistency in the world, hey Aiden I can't use you because plot? The game's being sued by the main actress. Its idea of innovation is David Cage watching Memento and then trying to recreate it by having the plot so out of order that the themes and expressions he's trying to evoke are made completely pointless because you've already seen what happens afterwards!
Sorry but no. Comparing Beyond Two Souls to a game like Infamous, which is fun to play, offends me to my very gaming core.
But yeah the facial animations are great (even though Ellen Page's eyes look dead half the time).
You're welcome to share your opinion of the game, and I'm welcome to shit on the game, because frankly it's about as enjoyable as watching Housewives of Atlanta sober.
HueyFreeman
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NoMoreTrolls
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Agreed. The core relay face looks like shit.
To correct you, I think Delsin is constipated and trying to shit every time I see it.
The Del power up face is too much lol. Love how the game looks but not a fan of facial capture. It always looks inconsistent, when it does looks good it's pretty cool but when it looks bad it's really bad, takes you out of the experience. That's why I prefer ND's work and I hope they stick to hand drawn animation with UC4. Characters always look awesome no matter what face they are pulling with hand drawn animation.
perineumlick
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Like I said, what proof do you have that polygon count is what kept this game from having enough game play variety? It's easy to armchair quarterback and say, "If they had cut this out, and focused on that", as if game development is really that simple, but what makes you qualified to make that parallel?
I cant wait to see Drake/Kratos/Ryo Hazuki/Nariko/OLD Rico(KZ4 lol) @ 100K polys each.
Also! The character models were really cool. I loved all the outfits to everyone. The lady boss at the end looked fantastic. (sans her face) Also that nerdy dude with AR powers kinda looked too real at one point lol. Delsin is the best designed protagonist out of all the inF games. (guess its and age group thing, feel bad for OLD GAF)
Also! The character models were really cool. I loved all the outfits to everyone. The lady boss at the end looked fantastic. (sans her face) Also that nerdy dude with AR powers kinda looked too real at one point lol. Delsin is the best designed protagonist out of all the inF games. (guess its and age group thing, feel bad for OLD GAF)
dragonbane
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WTF am I reading? Are you drunk? It's a work of fiction and a game, no need to get so worked up about it. I didn't find anything offensive at all. By your definition there are offensive things in every game. What the characters are doing made sense to me as well, the timeline and earlier chapters explain it nicely. Aiden is helpless when Jodie is weak or unconsious because of their connection over the cord, which was explained as well. Other times he only helps when he absolutely has to, he does what he wants and the only interest he has in her survival is his own existence. This was all explained.
Also Page suing Sony was a press BS story. Nothing ever happened which her managers confirmed. She still loved her involement in Beyond. Please stop spreading wrong and shameful tabloid nonsense, which casts a shadow over the fantastic work of all the actors, who are all immensely proud of the product they helped to create.
Again, it's an action-thriller with supernatural and sci-fi elements solely meant for entertainment. Entertaining it was for me. Not sure why you are so invested in this.
crazyturtle
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textures looked like they could have taken up more space on the map or just better organized, same with how polys are stepped down
120 was not used well
120 was not used well
perineumlick
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What about all the critics and players alike who claim to have had a great time with the game? What about that? You can go back to any of the Infamous threads, and I guarantee you will find more people who enjoyed the game and had fun with it, than people who outright disliked the game. Don't try to make the game out to be poorly received, because it's not. If you don't like it, fine, but the generalization is silly, and once again, you can't make the parallel between polygon counts and game play design to bolster your argument.
CosmicGroinPull
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Yeah, sorry but I can't tell where all those polys went compared to those below.
^That's really impressive. I can't remember any sharp edges on the Heavy Rain girl's body, but MGS4's Naomi sure had some polygon edges on her cleavage. Yes, these are the things I remember.
Apparently this is what the count are for various David Cage games:
^That's really impressive. I can't remember any sharp edges on the Heavy Rain girl's body, but MGS4's Naomi sure had some polygon edges on her cleavage. Yes, these are the things I remember.
I'd argue that mutliple powers and how you handle every combat situation is the variety. Defintely one the better launch window games but it certainly has missed opportunites in regards to side missions,
qa_engineer
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Polys only tell half the story. There are textures, shaders, lighting, and overall art direction that layer on top of the mesh to make a character. Not just a120k poly mesh.
CosmicGroinPull
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GameSeeker
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Beauty is the Eye of the Beholder.
For this beholder, Infamous:SS has set a new benchmark for graphics technology for next gen consoles.
Ryse and KZ:SF set the bar for the launch games. Each had excellent graphics technology: Ryse was better in some areas, KZ:SF in others. With Infamous: SS, Sucker Punch has surpassed both.
I've been very impressed with:
1) The particle system - the particle effects put all other games to shame
2) AA Solution - the best AA solution I've seen to date, running at full 1080p and a >30fps frame rate
3) Lighting Model - the switch to a physically based HDR shading model really pays off, as Seattle looks outstanding during the full morning/afternoon/evening/night time cycle. The sunshine vs. cloudy/rainy look is captured extremely well.
4) Facial/Body Performance Capture - it's up there with the best done to date
5) Open world, huge draw distances, no fog
I went back and replayed part of Infamous and Infamous 2, just to refresh my memory of how they looked/played. Sucker Punch made a large leap from Infamous to Infamous 2 and and has made an even bigger leap with Infamous: SS. I'm already looking forward to seeing what SP can do with Infamous:SS2, which should push the boundaries of graphics tech even further.
For this beholder, Infamous:SS has set a new benchmark for graphics technology for next gen consoles.
Ryse and KZ:SF set the bar for the launch games. Each had excellent graphics technology: Ryse was better in some areas, KZ:SF in others. With Infamous: SS, Sucker Punch has surpassed both.
I've been very impressed with:
1) The particle system - the particle effects put all other games to shame
2) AA Solution - the best AA solution I've seen to date, running at full 1080p and a >30fps frame rate
3) Lighting Model - the switch to a physically based HDR shading model really pays off, as Seattle looks outstanding during the full morning/afternoon/evening/night time cycle. The sunshine vs. cloudy/rainy look is captured extremely well.
4) Facial/Body Performance Capture - it's up there with the best done to date
5) Open world, huge draw distances, no fog
I went back and replayed part of Infamous and Infamous 2, just to refresh my memory of how they looked/played. Sucker Punch made a large leap from Infamous to Infamous 2 and and has made an even bigger leap with Infamous: SS. I'm already looking forward to seeing what SP can do with Infamous:SS2, which should push the boundaries of graphics tech even further.
Unknown One
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I didn't really think much of the Character's in infamous, beyond Delsin all of their faces were awful and when they raised their arms it looked like they had wingsuits on. Even the main villain was awful and looked like she had a facial from the same Spa that Captain Shepherd used.
Beyond's were fantastic even without as many polygons
You picked literally the worst pictures for both characters.
Dark Octave
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Seems like Delsin had the sharpest textures on his face compared to everyone else. It was a big contrast when he was in a scene with other characters.
Apophis2036
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Interesting... Just 10k behind Bayonetta's model for Bayo 2.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1699978&postcount=1174
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1699978&postcount=1174
Lucent
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I just see it says "over 100,000 polys" or whatever for Bayonetta. And it says Delsin is like 120k here. So am I missing something?
Plus Bayonetta is sort of set up like DMC. It's not open world or anything, so I'm sure they could fit in better character models and stuff. The Wii U reminds me of the Gamecube: In the hands of the right devs, some amazing visuals can be made.
shadowsdarknes
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Edit: nvm
I feel like you care a bit too much about the outcome here.
not_so_special
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if you think sucker punch have the resources or money crytek got to made ryse? MEGALOL
not_so_special
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because you are just trolling the thread..
t_wilson01
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This much common sense is difficult to find now days.
Liabe Brave
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It's true that Bethesda generate huge amounts of play content for their games. However, it's also true that their titles are extremely buggy, have middling graphics, and often rely on overwhelming with quantity rather than ensuring consistent quality of that content.
It's perfectly fine if you prefer that approach, but that only makes other methods different, not objectively bad. Your comparison quite literally means nothing to people with variant tastes.
Just you. I've played it and the character models impressed me. Including Betty.
Just started the game and was kinda surprised the quality difference between her model and Delsin's.I didn't really think much of the Character's in infamous, beyond Delsin all of their faces were awful and when they raised their arms it looked like they had wingsuits on. Even the main villain was awful and looked like she had a facial from the same Spa that Captain Shepherd used.
Beyond's were fantastic even without as many polygons
Her model quality reminded me of uncharted 3's katherine marlow
Couldn't agree more.
Oblivion - hugely addictive, but so big I didn't finish.
Skyrim - hugely addictive, but so big I didn't finish.
Fallout 3 - hugely addictive, but so big I didn't finish.
Unsatisfied despite getting more hours/dollar.
Infamous 1/2/SS. Hugely addictive. Finished them all. Got all collectables/power-ups etc.
Very satisfied.
You could even say SS was shallower than Inf 1/2 because it basically handed everything to you on the map - but for me that just made the story less frustrating to play than games that make you search for hours just to prolong 'play time'.
Perhaps I'm more time poor than others, but I'll take a shorter, prettier, polished game like SS over a sprawling 'ok looking' buggy 300hour game any day.
Someone else said it as well or did you not read again?
As for LOL keep posting everytime I see the name I just chuckle at the bs you do to defends things you like.
Celestial Mortal
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So...better than Ryse? Or have we already done that bit....
Look at his hands and the chain wrapped around his arm.
nelsonroyale
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Kindly point me to what a 120k character looks like then.
Not like that. Marius from Ryse arguably looks better. But what do I know. Its not like I'm a 3D artist or anything - oh wait.