Even if you pay no attention to Xbox at all you would now due to their desire to take your brand away from you. Since they can't accomplish anything but throwing moneyI mean, I'll admit I lean Sony, my main gripe is that if MS is going to gobble up half of the beloved IPs of the entire industry I just want to know that they're actually going to do something with it rather than letting everything languish in mediocrity. I had a Series S and got rid of it, but I'd still like an excuse to play Gamepass on my PC.
Yeah, essentially, like if you're going to own one of my favorite IPs in Fallout, can you at least not fucking suck at it?Even if you pay no attention to Xbox at all you would now due to their desire to take your brand away from you. Since they can't accomplish anything but throwing money
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1) Never mentioned Game Pass or value1. Gamepass is a non factor according to Microsoft and every other Publisher. It's value destructive.
2. What you believe XBOX is selling is irrelevant. It is selling worse than the debacle that is XB1.
Dismissing the reality of XBOX in favour of your own narrative is an issue you need to confront.
They should and did significantly compared to their Xbox One launch. MS/Phil know they need to get even better and are actively pursuing that objective with the ABK acquisition being a clear indicator that will only further improve GamePass. Acting like he has been ineffective is just people being disingenuous because they don't like MS/Xbox not his actual record at improving Xbox globally. For a long time one of Xbox's criticisms have been the lack of support from the Japanese market, which under Phil has become the best it ever has been for Xbox from getting launch exclusives into GamePass that was created under him to getting whole collections that were never released on Xbox period thanks to the support of backwards compatability another one of his decesion that were positively received.And all of these should result in higher sales figures. It’s why you are in business, not running a charity.
Just because Phil isn't liked on this forum and people think posting his private emails which are tame at best they think they're some how exposing him that he's some evil dude. He has aspirations and has clearly made moves to improve Xbox and its ecosystem. Being willfully ignorant is a choice you can make, but trying to force others to think like Xbox's situation right now is bad is laughable as it is only going up from this point on. You could maybe blame his for how long it has taken, but that is a industry wide problem due to Covid, something he had no control over.Come on, I have never seen a most obvious paid shill. You at least deleted the tm and the end of the registered trade marks.
You guys are still focusing on console sales, and yet Xbox as a brand, in what it means, is bigger than ever. Game Pass and Xbox is on PC as well. I don't believe even for a second Xbox is worse now than the early Xbox One era, where the hardware was shit, the games were shit and the brand image was basically of a green turd.
So, yes, I think Xbox as a brand is now stronger than it used to be. It's selling fewer consoles than the competition and it has by far the worst console exclusives of the market, but I play more Xbox branded stuff now than ever.
1) Never mentioned Game Pass or value
2) I didn't make up any sales number
I don't have a narrative, I expressed an opinion.
No, trying to consolidate and bulldoze (monopolize) the industry into their favor, is.Because 2x as many first party studios as PlayStation, and GamePass, is exactly like their old days...
Nah, just bullshit artists and their overly zealous fanatics. We hate the overly zealous Sony fans too, considering mods take them out in the same clip. There's just no cult of personality constantly in the airwaves for Sony.Man this place hates Xbox
You're not worth the effort, so I just phone it in with you.This is even worse, I'm disappointed in you, you can do better.
The part where I said I THINK Xbox as a brand is stronger now thanks to Phil and never said it's selling more than ever or offers great value?See the bolded.
You're not worth the effort, so I just phone it in with you.
No, he says all kinds of kumbaya shit publicly that no one should take at face value (see all the leaked emails lately for a recent example). I'm not sure that's exactly transparent.-Most transparent leader of the big 3. (Doesn’t just always say PR scripted rhetoric.)
A t-shirt doesn't make a gamer.-Actually a gamer
I want some of whatever you’re smoking that you seriously posted thisThe fact that the majority of the vote is yes is just insane to me.
-Best gaming service available (Gamepass)
-Best BC program
-Biggest investment allocated to building their 1st party studios
-Most transparent leader of the big 3. (Doesn’t just always say PR scripted rhetoric.)
-Actually a gamer
-Critical of his own companies flaws and decisions
-Listens and reacts to criticism
All of this is done under his leadership.
The part where I said I THINK Xbox as a brand is stronger now thanks to Phil and never said it's selling more than ever or offers great value?
What do you think brand mean?When we're talking about established facts what you think does not matter.
The brand is weaker outside the US and within the US. That's an actual fact . A fact laid out by Microsoft themselves in legally binding submissions to regulators and on the stand during court proceedings. A fact supported by Microsoft's internal deliberations and backed, publicly, by sales data. I can think 1+1 = 3. The actual fact is...
No, trying to consolidate and bulldoze (monopolize) the industry into their favor, is.
"We heard you guys, next year is gonna be the biggest in Xbox history" where have I heard this beforeI’ll give Ol’ Phil to the end of 2024. If things haven’t significantly gotten better by then than maybe it would be better to bring someone else in.
So says this Xbox guy.
Aren't you shifting goalposts now?
The OP asks "Is Phil Spencer hurting the XBox brand?"
Me: No. XBox is, by far, in the strongest state it's ever been in thanks to the checks cut by Phil Spencer.
I'm a Jim Ryan guy, but if you're an XBox fan, Phil Spencer is the Alpha and the Omega for team green.
He's bought studios but what major games has he delivered?
In the 10 yrs he's been in his position he's shat Xbox first-party game studios and IP down the toilet and only recently has he had to buy up existing studios to compensate. But these studios aren't making "new" games. Their games would have been available for Xbox anyway. So from an Xbox fan perspective, he hasn't brought anything new to the platform despite buying up studios. He's only constrained access to multiplatform content from completing consoles.
People keep bringing up the fact that he's been in his position for 10 years when it's irrelevant.
He just bought a megaton load of studios.
Games now take 6+ years to make.
If you thought everything was going to turn around overnight, you're a casual gamer. Aspire to be better than a casual. Attempt to ascend and become hardcore.
Phil Spencer unlocked the mythical war chest that middle school versions of us whispered about. He has become a Greek God. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he's a central antagonist in the next God of War.
Man, you aren't kidding. I remember picking up my PS3 real close to launch and really liking MotorStorm but then that thing just collected dust until a few good exclusives would come out. The one upside to how badly Sony had managed the first few years of PS3's launch was that my PS3 got so little actual use, it never died. I still have it. I'm 92% sure it still worked the last time I checked before I put it away 10+ years ago. 360 was on such a streak a few years into the launch and it's hardware and what it offered with Xbox Live took a long time for Sony to respond.No doubt about it. But the sad truth is that it wasn't that they had good leadership. They were simply able to capitalize on all the issues the PS3 had. Sony really tried hard to go bankrupt that generation.
This is how you side-step the entire main thread of my argument.
Buying studios does not create new FP Xbox games. It only takes existing in-dev multiplatform games (that Xbox gamers would have had anyway) and removes them from PlayStation.
So your argument justifying the achievements of Phil Spencer after 10 yrs as head of Xbox, is that he's fucked up Halo, shat Xbox Game Studios down the crapper, bought studios to remove games from PS and started GamePass... and that's supposed to equate to Xbox being in its best position ever as a platform.... despite console sales being the worst they've ever been and GP sub growth all but dead...?
Lol, wow! Ok.
anyway. So from an Xbox fan perspective, he hasn't brought anything new to the platform despite buying up studios. He's only constrained access to multiplatform content from completing consoles
In other words…. The same old and very typical and usual gamer circles? No suprise there. You have to really follow this stuff and keep check of names to be even discussing it….. out of the hundreds of millions of gamers around the world….. how many of them are actually discussing this? How many of them are on Twitter screaming outrage? Versus who is?….It’s not like these guys have Elon musk levels of pop culture revelevence. I got a lot of friends who have no idea who any of these people are. It’s just convo fodder among hardcore gamers. The industry is bigger than hardcore gamers and their points of views. To everybody else…. It’s just business between big companies who they can’t name the execs like we can and….. there are more people talking about cardi B on Twitter. than what Phil said in a year old email that was supposed to be confidential.. Popular culture don’t care. It’s just silicon valley billionaire shit to them.Plenty of people outside of GAF give a flying fuck. Twitter, other forums, journalists.....this shit is being discussed everywhere.
Nothing about new great games thoughThe fact that the majority of the vote is yes is just insane to me.
-Best gaming service available (Gamepass)
-Best BC program
-Biggest investment allocated to building their 1st party studios
-Most transparent leader of the big 3. (Doesn’t just always say PR scripted rhetoric.)
-Actually a gamer
-Critical of his own companies flaws and decisions
-Listens and reacts to criticism
All of this is done under his leadership.
To be fair I think Sony turned their fortunes around perfectly. They primed themselves perfectly for PS4 and rebuilt goodwill within one generation. But I think their issue was more straight forward.Man, you aren't kidding. I remember picking up my PS3 real close to launch and really liking MotorStorm but then that thing just collected dust until a few good exclusives would come out. The one upside to how badly Sony had managed the first few years of PS3's launch was that my PS3 got so little actual use, it never died. I still have it. I'm 92% sure it still worked the last time I checked before I put it away 10+ years ago. 360 was on such a streak a few years into the launch and it's hardware and what it offered with Xbox Live took a long time for Sony to respond.
Yeah, the first half of that gen was dominated by MS. It forced Sony to change strategy and start focusing on their first and second party output since the third party support was basically gone. And boy, did that pay in the long run.Man, you aren't kidding. I remember picking up my PS3 real close to launch and really liking MotorStorm but then that thing just collected dust until a few good exclusives would come out. The one upside to how badly Sony had managed the first few years of PS3's launch was that my PS3 got so little actual use, it never died. I still have it. I'm 92% sure it still worked the last time I checked before I put it away 10+ years ago. 360 was on such a streak a few years into the launch and it's hardware and what it offered with Xbox Live took a long time for Sony to respond.
Yeah, the first day MS had Bethesda they should have farmed out to a new studio a Fallout 3 and New Vegas remaster. Yes, I know all the talk about new games, but those would have been low risk projects that would have gone well on Gamepass.Yeah, essentially, like if you're going to own one of my favorite IPs in Fallout, can you at least not fucking suck at it?
Or remakes of Fallout 1 & 2 with new graphics and a modern interface to bring those games to people that haven't played them, I'm imagining this would be relatively easy/cheap with MS resources. Or they could go all in and bring 1 & 2 into the same style as 3/NV/4 but that would obviously be a massive undertaking, but an easy PR victory.Yeah, the first day MS had Bethesda they should have farmed out to a new studio a Fallout 3 and New Vegas remaster. Yes, I know all the talk about new games, but those would have been low risk projects that would have gone well on Gamepass.
I agree with quite a lot of that, but the bolded is key to me. Granted people will always find something to nitpick about, but the biggest flaw for me is or was the lack of Japanese/Asian game support. Over these past several years things have gotten so much better its almost surreal to think about. Sony's actions(censorship related) led me to mainly buy games on Switch and Xbox out of protest, or PC when relevant. So having more options for me is great, while now that my core gaming circle opted for Xbox this gen means I still get to play there with them and expose them to titles they normally wouldn't have ever seen.The fact that the majority of the vote is yes is just insane to me.
-Best gaming service available (Gamepass)
-Best BC program
-Biggest investment allocated to building their 1st party studios
-Most transparent leader of the big 3. (Doesn’t just always say PR scripted rhetoric.)
-Actually a gamer
-Critical of his own companies flaws and decisions
-Listens and reacts to criticism
All of this is done under his leadership.
The fact that the majority of the vote is yes is just insane to me.
-Best gaming service available (Gamepass)
-Best BC program
-Biggest investment allocated to building their 1st party studios
-Most transparent leader of the big 3. (Doesn’t just always say PR scripted rhetoric.)
-Actually a gamer
-Critical of his own companies flaws and decisions
-Listens and reacts to criticism
All of this is done under his leadership.
If you mean loudest and most unprofessional then yeah.The fact that the majority of the vote is yes is just insane to me.
-Best gaming service available (Gamepass)
-Best BC program
-Biggest investment allocated to building their 1st party studios
-Most transparent leader of the big 3. (Doesn’t just always say PR scripted rhetoric.)
-Actually a gamer
-Critical of his own companies flaws and decisions
-Listens and reacts to criticism
All of this is done under his leadership.
It's jealousy... Yeah! I am jealous of his life, so maybe he should quit being such a fucking douche!The hate for him is not rooted in reality, it stems from an emotional place, so the haters actually need understanding and compassion to guide them through this dark time…
I think the Xbox brand will be fine even if it stays Microsoft forever.The part where I said I THINK Xbox as a brand is stronger now thanks to Phil and never said it's selling more than ever or offers great value?
I don't think Phil Spencer is hurting the brand. I don't think anyone can do much to save it as a brand unless MS decides to sell it.