ReBurn
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On Steam there are currently 25,636 in Skyrim Special Edition and 11,197 in Fallout 4. People are still playing these games.Not really, how many active players does Skyrim or fallout have these days?
On Steam there are currently 25,636 in Skyrim Special Edition and 11,197 in Fallout 4. People are still playing these games.Not really, how many active players does Skyrim or fallout have these days?
Name a RPG more alive. Elden ring NPCs they just stand there and wait for you. Same with enemies. Funny enough too that Elden Ring took inspiration from the Elder Scrolls. No ones playthrough is the same in a Bethesda game, it's a fully unique open world sandbox, with wild life, random encounters, & towns that are actually giving NPCs meaning & simulate them fully. Also the way you interact with objects in the worlds is super immersive or just fun. Like picking up a bucket and setting it on someones head haha.I wouldn't call a bethesda game a living world since most of it is pretty bland but I guess the towns have alot of people to talk to that walk around. A great story or characters and incredible gameplay are what's needed to get me to think an rpg game is great, bethesda just has too much bloat.
On Steam there are currently 25,636 in Skyrim Special Edition and 11,197 in Fallout 4. People are still playing these games.
Well are you talking concurrent at the exact same time?Not really, how many active players does Skyrim or fallout have these days?
Well are you talking concurrent at the exact same time?
I don't think there will be millions playing at the exact same time all the time. But deffo thousands upon thousands. For years.
It’ll have a longer tail than most games but eventually most players will easily just move onto the next thing
Unless they turn it into a GaaS I don’t see that really happening.
Not really, how many active players does Skyrim or fallout have these days?
I'd happily bet that people are playing this game for over ten years. And a I mean millions will play it for years. This is gonna be a big deal. Not some short term hyped titles that everyone moves on from.
And they still don't, unfortunately they are going to release this day and date on PC after also saying that it will only be 30fps on series X. How much do you want to be most of Starfield sales are on PC?Xbox have never had an exclusive game the size of a Bethesda GS RPG.
That's a moment in time. Hardly any games have millions of concurrent players.Sure, that’s not millions of players though.
And they still don't, unfortunately they are going to release this day and date on PC after also saying that it will only be 30fps on series X. How much do you want to be most of Starfield sales are on PC?
That's the point, if it were Xbox console exclusive for even 6 months it would move consoles. Their current strategy makes me feel like they are giving up on the console market. Gamepass doesn't require you to own a console.All Xbox first party games launch on PC.
That's a moment in time. Hardly any games have millions of concurrent players.
The point to be made is that the games you're discounting, despite their age, are consistently two of the most popular games people are playing on Steam. Enough people are actively playing them for both of them to rank high on the list of games with active players on Steam along with ESO, higher than some of the most popular releases of the past few years.
Is there any proof at all that this market exist?That's the point, if it were Xbox console exclusive for even 6 months it would move consoles. Their current strategy makes me feel like they are giving up on the console market. Gamepass doesn't require you to own a console.
People with disposable income do. I got my Switch for Breath of the Wild back in the day. Kept it because of Dread.Is there any proof at all that this market exist?
I really can’t see that there is a significant group of gamers with a gaming PC that would buy a console just to play a console exclusive 6 month earlier.
I’ve not met anyone like that. Ever.
Going by own experience, people with a gaming PC just get annoyed at console exclusivity related delays, then play the game after the delay is over.
If the delay is big enough, like years, and they already have a console too they might go first on console, then double dip on PC later if the PC version is much better, rare but does happen.
Even full time exclusives struggle to sell consoles going by anecdotal evidence. I only see annoyance, never console purchases.
Well there was this one person who considered to buy a preowned PS4 to play GT7. No purchase yet. And one other person has talked about buying a Switch for TOTK. But no purchase yet.
I really just think PC gaming is a whole different market, I don’t think there is much user movement at all between the platforms.
The modding could potentially be amazing. It’ll be fun to see what the tools allow us to do. When so many planets are barren I’m thinking a modder could theoretically claim a planet and just go nuts and create their own isolated adventure there.Halo was the game for the original Xbox and Microsoft's main franchise for the last 15yrs so no probably not. However Starfield by any yardstick is a megaton release with enormous sales potential and a real contender for GOTY (if not for TOTK it would be in the bag).
Starfield could simply become bigger than Skyrim and be played for even longer. Expansions, Mods etc. Best of all we only have just over 2 months to wait
Starfield wont move the needle? You cant be serious lolBased on what they've shown so far, no. Call of Duty is more important and Starfield won't even move the needle. That why MS is spending tens of billions on Activision.
This is the reality of every single player game though.It’ll have a longer tail than most games but eventually most players will easily just move onto the next thing
Unless they turn it into a GaaS I don’t see that really happening.
The people who actually created the game? Whether it be Bethesda or MS. But just the truth would be niceWell everyone dunks on his poor management skills when games go bad. So if Starfield turns out good the people who dunked on him over Redfall should praise him for Starfield, right? Who should get the credit if it's amazing?
Yeah, sure. Whatever you say.
I'd prefer to buy it, to have it in my steam library because that's the way I'm used to getting my games. Why change things now? Game pass is attractive, but, I don't need it.Why even considering buying it if you can play it much cheaper on gamepass? Just take gamepass for a month, play the game, cancel sub, save 50 dollars or something like that
Ugh Enemies are doing their own thing in elden Ring alot actually but sure about the npcs, I just don't care because they are very interesting characters. Bethesda gets old after awhile since it's just the same mediocre gameplay loop (not to mention the gunplay isnt the greatest), the rewards for exploration are very tedious/repetitive as well with junk it's just big time waster most of the time, those games would be way better if a 3rd of it were cut.Name a RPG more alive. Elden ring NPCs they just stand there and wait for you. Same with enemies. Funny enough too that Elden Ring took inspiration from the Elder Scrolls. No ones playthrough is the same in a Bethesda game, it's a fully unique open world sandbox, with wild life, random encounters, & towns that are actually giving NPCs meaning & simulate them fully. Also the way you interact with objects in the worlds is super immersive or just fun. Like picking up a bucket and setting it on someones head haha.
But in my opinion it sounds like you haven't experienced these games like most others have, maybe you are the type to just look around & shoot or attack something like in Halo.
And they still don't, unfortunately they are going to release this day and date on PC after also saying that it will only be 30fps on series X. How much do you want to be most of Starfield sales are on PC?
Which is the reason they are having issues acquiring ABK. They should concentrate on improving their console division and not look at it as the casual hardware. This exact mentality is why they are getting trounced. Instead of trying to improve and compete, they would rather shift focus and buy their way to a W. Not sure about the fanboy comment at the end, a lot of people care. Some of us want MS to do better I hope you do too.
MS has made it abundantly, painfully clear on multiple occasions that GamePass is the platform, Xbox is the casual hardware to run it. I'm happy for my PC bros to be able to enjoy the same games I do on their vastly more powerful macines, and think any old console exclusive that never got a port needs one.
Nobody cares about any of this other than fanboys on the internet.
Which is the reason they are having issues acquiring ABK. They should concentrate on improving their console division and not look at it as the casual hardware. This exact mentality is why they are getting trounced. Instead of trying to improve and compete, they would rather shift focus and buy their way to a W. Not sure about the fanboy comment at the end, a lot of people care. Some of us want MS to do better I hope you do too.
It is.
But it shouldn't be. The weight of expectations on this game is heavy because it's the first new AAA game XBOX has released since Quantum Break back in 2016. With the XBOX platform lacking in regards to the AAA space and ceo's pumping the game as the next best thing... A low 80's will be seen as a failure.
Obviously, a game scoring in the low 80s isn't a bad game! But again, with the weight of expectation on this one title, I can see a negative narrative being spun.