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[KINDERFELD]

"watching two men touch each other in an intimate way makes my boxers tight, and that's wrong because I'm not gay."

 

[Sqorin Hammerfarf]

I'm saying most males who believe that their sexuality is set in stone have not grown up yet to realize that it isn't.

I mean, you gotta work with what you gotta work with, but all things being equal, I’ll pick boobies over not boobies every time.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

KINDERFELD Do you... uh... need to visit the GAFession thread or something? You're rather set on the notion that all straight men (ahem, boys who haven't grown up yet) feel this way.

 

[KINDERFELD]

KINDERFELD Do you... uh... need to visit the GAFession thread or something? You're rather set on the notion that all straight men (ahem, boys who haven't grown up yet) feel this way.

I'm saying that knowledge acquired from science does not support those delusions you're expressing.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

I'm saying that knowledge acquired from science does not support those delusions you're expressing.

Moi? Which particular delusions am I expressing? Quote me.

I'm very delusional and I appreciate the free therapy.

 

[KINDERFELD]

Moi? Which particular delusions am I expressing? Quote me.

I'm very delusional and I appreciate the free therapy.

"straight male" is nothing but a classification.
it does not correctly express how human beings function. all it does is allow someone to identify themselves with a certain group.

Something akin to how many bisexual men identified themselves as heterosexual because it is heteronormative.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

Because straight men are terrible and the less impact they can have on culture the better. The entitlement of this threads posed question and of the people in it is staggering. If there isnt enough ass and tits for neckbeards to mash themselves to, it warrants an outcry.

Oh, you are bigot as well as a...

 

[bilderberg]

Its tacky, lazy and juvenile. Nothing more lame than needing the characters to dress up in sexy outfits. The real issue is the tonal shift its inclusion in games. Metal Gear goes from talking about war and genocide to gratuitous peep shots. Western devs aren't better in that regard. Everything has a place, but a game with women in skimpy armor isn't the hallmark of the industry.

strawman

One, I didn't say that nor do I feel that way. Two, are you forgetting the outcry about the lesbian scene in Mass Effect. Gay erasure has been a hallmark of all types of media till literally today. There is a reason the "bury your gays" trope exists. The nature of this thread was specifically framed as straight men aren't getting things anymore. Which is an idiotic, myopic and ignorant statement to make.

strawman

Because straight men are terrible and the less impact they can have on culture the better. The entitlement of this threads posed question and of the people in it is staggering. If there isnt enough ass and tits for neckbeards to mash themselves to, it warrants an outcry.

trolling? What a douchebag.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

"straight male" is nothing but a classification.
it does not correctly express how human beings function. all it does is allow someone to identify themselves with a certain group.

Something akin to how many bisexual men identified themselves as heterosexual because it is heteronormative.

That's not what I asked. What are the "delusions" I am expressing? Quote me.

Otherwise, it sounds like you're having a conversation with yourself.

 

[Xenon]

"Cringy"

Is it a confidence issue? Are you intimidated by sex? Does going to a strip club make you uncomfortable?

I don't understand why any normal person would feel "cringe" over sex appeal. It sounds very unhealthy to hear someone say that. It reeks of sexual repression.

Wow... So you just jump to personal attacks. Are you a defensive person? Can you not handle people with different opinions? Is character assassination your go to method for people with ideas you don't agree with... /judo-ed! =P


Anyways, as I said fan service for anime makes sense, but lets say with something like the current Tomb Raider it does not. Sure her original dimensions were a bit exaggerated but it was more cartoony compared to the current game. But they wanted to flesh the character out more and skimpy costumes don't really fit here which is why if they offered it I would find it odd with the current Lara, cringey. Whats the harm though, sure I see that. However if I was making a game about a female character in the vein of Croft I wouldn't include the option either simply because it goes against the vision I am trying to create. How about a banana-hammock skin for the Master Chief? Even if they made it optional it would bite into the Chief image. It wouldn't fit. Same with the new TR.

Don't get me wrong I'm fine with that in things where it makes sense, and that's really up to the dev. Because in the end ones need to be titillated is not their fucking problem.

 

[KINDERFELD]

That's not what I asked. What are the "delusions" I am expressing? Quote me.

Otherwise, it sounds like you're having a conversation with yourself.

I said the "straight men" notion is actually a delusion that a lot of heterosexual men carry around.

 

[CatCouch]

I'm saying most males who believe that their sexuality is set in stone have not grown up yet to realize that it isn't.

This actually rings true for me. Over the years of my sexuality has become less rigid, it seems. I used to be pretty put off by men in porn or any sexual situation but that eventually changed. I've had plenty of talks with furry artists about the way attraction can blur between female and male if certain aspects are gone, like a human face. Now, full male furry porn is awesome to me and even some human male porn works. I think this might be why so many feel furry communities are great for exploring sexuality~

Interesting how human sexuality is not as simple as I thought when I was a teenager.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

"watching two men touch each other in an intimate way makes my boxers tight, and that's wrong because I'm not gay."

Some women get off to rape porn as well, but that doesn't mean they want to be raped. Sexual fantasy isn't the same as sexual reality.

 

[Danjin44]

Because straight men are terrible and the less impact they can have on culture the better. The entitlement of this threads posed question and of the people in it is staggering. If there isnt enough ass and tits for neckbeards to mash themselves to, it warrants an outcry.

Tell me something, how are you any different than shitty people who generalize and insult base on your sexuality?

 

[KINDERFELD]

This actually rings true for me. Over the years of my sexuality has become less rigid, it seems. I used to be pretty put off by men in porn or any sexual situation but that eventually changed. I've had plenty of talks with furry artists about the way attraction can blur between female and male if certain aspects are gone, like a human face. Now, full male furry porn is awesome to me and even some human male porn works. I think this might be why so many feel furry communities are great for exploring sexuality~

Interesting how human sexuality is not as simple as I thought when I was a teenager.

What you express is very threatening and scary to those males who want to portray this rigid heterosexuality.
They know what their experiences in their personal lives have been and they know that their reactions in those guy on guy encounters aren't driven by the way their body feels, but by how they were conditioned to see those situations etc.

Why do you think so many old men are so freaky and hit on younger guys?

And near all of us males know what I'm talking about. We call them, "creepy old men".

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

I said the "straight men" notion is actually a delusion that a lot of heterosexual men carry around.

Thanks for the explanation of how there are no straight men but only boys who haven't grown up.

 

[KINDERFELD]

Some women get off to rape porn as well, but that doesn't mean they want to be raped. Sexual fantasy isn't the same as sexual reality.

um....you definitely didn't understand my statement.

It was to show that your body chemistry reacts a certain way, however, because of how you are raised and conditioned, you think and react in another way.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

um....you definitely didn't understand my statement.

It was to show that your body chemistry reacts a certain way, however, because of how you are raised and conditioned, you think and react in another way.

I agree with you on premise that sexuality is more like a dimmer switch than a toggle, but at the same time, some people may be aroused by certain imagery but not want to actively partake in it. That is my point.

 

[KINDERFELD]

Have you ever been in a freaking public male restroom?

You dear not look at another man's dick because you've been conditioned to not do that with a host of negative labelings and reasoning's along included.
So what do you do? You enter a male restroom and your mind is actively working against what you want to naturally do.

Why the hell does a heterosexual man have to be told and trained to behave in a heteronormative manner?

 

[Boss Mog]

I said the "straight men" notion is actually a delusion that a lot of heterosexual men carry around.

Speak for yourself. I really don't know where you come off talking like you know better than anybody else and telling others how they feel. Nature made the vast majority of men attracted to females only because that is what's necessary for the perpetuation of the species. The vast majority of men are physically repulsed at the idea of having sexual relations with another man. The only delusional one is you peddling your theory.

 

[KINDERFELD]

Speak for yourself. I really don't know where you come off talking like you know better than anybody else and telling others how they feel. Nature made the vast majority of men attracted to females only because that is what's necessary for the perpetuation of the species. The vast majority of men are physically repulsed at the idea of having sexual relations with another man. The only delusional one is you peddling your theory.

And you need to be educated.
That's your enemy. A lack of a decent education.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

So you just jump to personal attacks.

Wasn't meant to be a personal attack. Was asking the questions and providing observation.

And a banana hammock skin for Master Chief would be really funny, can they add that into Destiny as well? As long as my Awoken Warlock gets a string bikini as well I'm all for it.

Have you ever been in a freaking public male restroom?

You dear not look at another man's dick because you've been conditioned to not do that with a host of negative labelings and reasoning's along included.
So what do you do? You enter a male restroom and your mind is actively working against what you want to naturally do.

Why the hell does a heterosexual man have to be told and trained to behave in a heteronormative manner?

I don't look at others in the restroom because it is rude to stare at people's naked form without their consent. Not because it is gross or icky, but that it is rude.

 

[KINDERFELD]

Wasn't meant to be a personal attack. Was asking the questions and providing observation.

And a banana hammock skin for Master Chief would be really funny, can they add that into Destiny as well? As long as my Awoken Warlock gets a string bikini as well I'm all for it.



I don't look at others in the restroom because it is rude to stare at people's naked form without their consent. Not because it is gross or icky, but that it is rude.

My point exactly.
You were raised in a certain way and conditioned to think and see the world based on your upbringing.

 

[Boss Mog]

And you need to be educated.
That's your enemy. A lack of a decent education.

I would wager that I'm better educated than you are.

 

[NickFire]

Have you ever been in a freaking public male restroom?

You dear not look at another man's dick because you've been conditioned to not do that with a host of negative labelings and reasoning's along included.
So what do you do? You enter a male restroom and your mind is actively working against what you want to naturally do.

Why the hell does a heterosexual man have to be told and trained to behave in a heteronormative manner?

Wait, are you saying that guys want to, but have been conditioned not to, stare at guys' dongs when they are peeing? I'll give you that most guys are staring straight ahead so no one gets the wrong idea, but that is the natural desire, not the conditioned one in my opinion. I'm also not buying that most guys are actively resisting urges if that's what you are saying.

 

[The Chairman]

Have you ever been in a freaking public male restroom?

You dear not look at another man's dick because you've been conditioned to not do that with a host of negative labelings and reasoning's along included.
So what do you do? You enter a male restroom and your mind is actively working against what you want to naturally do.

Why the hell does a heterosexual man have to be told and trained to behave in a heteronormative manner?

So let me get this straight, you get horny when you look at another man's dick in a public male restroom? thats creepy dude, no one wants someone to look at his dick while using a public restroom.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Have you ever been in a freaking public male restroom?

You dear not look at another man's dick because you've been conditioned to not do that with a host of negative labelings and reasoning's along included.
So what do you do? You enter a male restroom and your mind is actively working against what you want to naturally do.

Why the hell does a heterosexual man have to be told and trained to behave in a heteronormative manner?

Thank you for the laugh. You clearly are a great satire account, because quite frankly - that is the most dumbass statement I have heard in a long while.

 

[Enygger_Tzu]

So can we get back to the main topic and pull aside the crazy talk?

 

[The Chairman]

So can we get back to the main topic and pull aside the crazy talk?

That dude is funny, he was like "so you want sexy women in your games then you must be gay lol"

 

[bilderberg]

So let me get this straight, you get horny when you look at another man's dick in a public male restroom? thats creepy dude, no one wants someone to look at his dick while using a public restroom.

That's just what you've been taught though. How is anyone supposed to argue with this guy?... "But I'm straight", "no you aren't"

 

[Cybrwzrd]

My point exactly.
You were raised in a certain way and conditioned to think and see the world based on your upbringing.

 

[The Chairman]

The Psychological projection is strong with this one.

 

[Boss Mog]

The Psychological projection is strong with this one.

Now I'm thinking he's just trolling.

 

[KINDERFELD]

Its sad that so many of you in here believe most of your preferences and behaviors are dictated by your biology.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

The Psychological projection is strong with this one.

I think he is trying to push his homonormative agenda on the rest of us.

 

[lock2k]

there is no such thing as "straight men". They're just boys who haven't grown up yet.

Call me Peter Pan then. Boobs are life!

 

[NickFire]

Its sad that so many of you in here believe most of your preferences and behaviors are dictated by your biology.

No, really.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I think he is trying to push his homonormative agenda on the rest of us.

Shhh, just let it happen.

 

[KINDERFELD]

No, really.

This is why I emphasize the need for you guys to become educated.

 

[NickFire]

This is why I emphasize the need for you guys to become educated.

What education do you think we need? I prefer that the creepy teachers who want to tell me about their fantasies about how bad I want to stare at a guy's dong stay the fuck away.

 

[lock2k]

Its sad that so many of you in here believe most of your preferences and behaviors are dictated by your biology.

With all due respect, I was raised by a gay man and it didn't affect my biology and preferences one bit. I used to see several naked women around my house because mom owned a clothing brand at the time. I did not know why... but I remember being 4 years old and enjoying the sight. I did not know why. But according to you, biology doesn't matter. I was probably taught to ogle woman by my gay father.

 

[Dr. Claus]

This is why I emphasize the need for you guys to become educated.

Unless you have multiple peer reviewed papers to back up your claims and that show, WITH DATA, that years of scientific research as we know it is wrong - then I am going to continue to view your claims as nothing more than the rambling of an inane troll.

 

[Cosmogony]

We now have, not the famous Kinsey Report, mind you, but the KINDERFELD report on human sexuality. Sure, no data is provided, but the entertainment value is somewhat similar.

I've now been offered a reason why males avoid gazing at each other's pennies. I've been lied to all my life. Males have been conditioned, otherwise the staring matches would be the downfall of every nation. Male productivity would sink. They wouldn't leave the restroom, the locker room or the sauna room.

And it seems heterosexual men, if you were to believe such void concept, all have something tenebrous in common besides their heterosexuality. As usual, no evidence is provided. These fellow GAFers can happily do without such an old-fashioned and oppressive concept such as hard evidence. They have liberated themselves from the shackles of the scientific method. They can assert things into existence, just like Gods reportedly did in the past.

Even though evidence did tend to suggest male sexuality falls on a spectrum that is highly polarized at the ends, heterosexuality and homosexuality. Never mind that. 2018 has been declared International Year of The Hollow Assertion and these splendid folks are using up the remaining days and energy.

Now, just imagine, the bile one would get if he or she posted a sentence like "All Lesbians are" or "All asexual men are". Just imagine.

These folks wanted to give the forum a practical lesson in unsubstantiated claims and double-standards.

Please join me in thanking them for succeeding.

 

[The Chairman]

This is why I emphasize the need for you guys to become educated.

" You must be educated to enjoy looking at other men dicks you stupid straight men"

Now can you stop trolling and derailing this thread because you got triggered by the words " straight men"

 

[DeepEnigma]

Have you ever been in a freaking public male restroom?

You dear not look at another man's dick because you've been conditioned to not do that with a host of negative labelings and reasoning's along included.
So what do you do? You enter a male restroom and your mind is actively working against what you want to naturally do.

Why the hell does a heterosexual man have to be told and trained to behave in a heteronormative manner?

 

[Danjin44]

@ The Chairman : I do think title of this thread is wrong. "Straight men" are not the only ones that can enjoy sexy designs. Like said before they are straight woman who enjoy sexy female design and even cosplay as them.

 

[DeepEnigma]

@ The Chairman : I do think title of this thread is wrong. "Straight men" are not the only ones that can enjoy sexy designs. Like said before they are straight woman who enjoy sexy female design and even cosplay as them.

God bless them ladies.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

The last one should be like the last panel in this one.

 

[Dacon]

Its sad that so many of you in here believe most of your preferences and behaviors are dictated by your biology.

It's sad that you think there's an ounce of truth to your statements, even to think science supports them.

However, I'm almost 100 percent certain you're trolling. I can't believe someone is stupid enough to believe that a persons sexuality is conditioned into them by society, if that were true homosexuals wouldnt even exist. I suggest everyone mutes this troll.

 

[The Chairman]

@ The Chairman : I do think title of this thread is wrong. "Straight men" are not the only ones that can enjoy sexy designs. Like said before they are straight woman who enjoy sexy female design and even cosplay as them.

I chose the words "Fanservice for Straight men" because i noticed that all the SJWs complaining about female sexualization which was the cause of eliminating sexy female designs from western games was because these designs are enjoyed mostly by straight men, so western devs eliminated these designs from their game because of the straight male "gaze", sure some women enjoy these designs but the main reason these designs is considered taboo now is because "straight men enjoy this then this is bad"