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Maybe the more accurate question is "why do people want to ban sexy outfits if thats what the creator want?"Why do people want sexy outfits? What's the importance?
Maybe the more accurate question is "why do people want to ban sexy outfits if thats what the creator want?"Why do people want sexy outfits? What's the importance?
Good thing I’m no sjw who believes that white males are oppressors and responsible for the suffering of non-whites around the world. >.>You first have to show minorities are indeed oppressed and that they are oppressed by the people you say oppress them. Then you would have to show that by pleasing the alleged oppressors you would be somehow contributing to the oppression itself. Then you would have to show that moral facts exist and that when you say that it is wrong that's not just your opinion but a factual statement.
But given that, I predict, you will not show any of this, your opinion can safely be dismissed.
Some video games attempt to and that's enough. It doesn't matter if they are successful as long as they are going for that serious tone some things are off limits.Very few games approach The Godfather levels of storytelling, and surprisingly, one of the few that have done that featured one of the most perfect asses in video game history.
No, it would't work tonally for The Godfather, but that isn't the point. It is still possible to have both.
I think Ulysses was being sarcastic.
Gold thing I’m no sjw who believes that white males are oppressors and responsible for the suffering of non-whites around the world. >.>
Why do people want sexy outfits? What's the importance?
I don't even remember PN03 having a story...Very few games approach The Godfather levels of storytelling, and surprisingly, one of the few that have done that featured one of the most perfect asses in video game history.
Why do people want sexy outfits? What's the importance?
Why do people want sexy outfits? What's the importance?
I don't even remember PN03 having a story...
Some video games attempt to and that's enough. It doesn't matter if they are successful as long as they are going for that serious tone some things are off limits.
But one of the most perfect asses in gaming? I mean, it's not bad and all, but this is the media that brought you such greats as Cammy and Snake. The bar is high.Was talking about Nier: Automata
But one of the most perfect asses in gaming? I mean, it's not bad and all, but this is the media that brought you such greats as Cammy and Snake. The bar is high.
Alright. I'll concede. Top 20 at least. But the important thing is that this discussion created the proper context in which to post that image, such that this discussion has been enriched by its presence. This argument could've gone on for days otherwise, and that's why we need fan service in our games. Because it enriches and solves problems.
We could continue to argue the semantics though, with more pictures, if you'd like.
I've already conceded the point, though there is certainly room in the discussion for ascertaining what those top 20 are. Obviously, at the top is PN03. It's a little dated as far as number of polygons go, but it gains extra points for gyrating for the entire game:I said one of the best. Top 20 would fall well within that realm. We could continue to argue the semantics though, with more pictures, if you'd like.
So wanting to see scantily clad ladies is “fan service” now?
That seems.... like the wrong use of that word.
But besides that I can’t see what the OP is complaining about. Are pixelated bits of flesh titilating? If they are, that’s why they’re frowned upon in games these days, if they’re not, then they may as well not be there anyway.
There are plenty of special interest “female fan service” (fap service?) websites, images and videos all over the internet - it’s more available than ever in human history. Is it really necessary to have this concern for video games?
Just seems like a misplaced siege mentality about the eroding of “rights” rather than a genuine issue in video games.
Also, it’s not appropriate to conflate the lack of flesh on display with censorship. The developers themselves are voluntarily choosing the art style - it’s not being forced on them by a government body.
These quotes in particular have a quality of "you're a bad person for not thinking like I do" which is kind of the thing I was arguing against earlier when people look down on others who enjoy sexy female characters. I'm sure I ultimately agree with you FAR more than I do the person who swings in to shitpost "oh, won't someone think of the poor straight males" or whatever, but I still disagree with the conclusions you immediately reached and the aggressive shaming and moral superiority aspects of your post. I think that's what was suggested seemed like it could be coming from another website.
Because it offers the straight (white) male demographic a more visual pleasure, is it wrong?
If cringy is your criteria, have you seen the diversity movement?Im not a big fan since it just comes off a bit cringy
yup, thank god for the modding communities to banish that El GoblinaSo there IS hope for Claires face in Remake 2.
Lol even God Eater 3 (PS4 exclusive) now pandering to straight female / gay male as they have male party member who constantly flirt with you (no matter what gender of your MC)
Lol even God Eater 3 (PS4 exclusive) now pandering to straight female / gay male as they have male party member who constantly flirt with you (no matter what gender of your MC)
There is so much Fujoshi bait in gaming, but people seem to completely ignore that because "BOOBS BAD" takes precedence.
The reason you're even here making this post is because at some point your dad was gazing at your mom.
At some point they used the bathroom too, doesn't mean we need to see that kind of stuff.
I feel like statements such as this haven't really been well thought out.
Except... where did that society come from? How did we all come to be here?
Assuming none of us posters were created in a lab somewhere, the vast majority of us are here because of some kind of physical or sexual attraction between our parents (eeeeeewwww, gross).
What? Just because something exists, doesn't mean we need to have it overrepresented in a medium. There are plenty more life sustaining functions you seem to forget that you're not advocating for.
To quote you "I feel like statements such as this haven't really been well thought out."
Then don't look. Simple.
I don't, however, over representing something so base weakens writing and the overall quality of games.
What? Just because something exists, doesn't mean we need to have it overrepresented in a medium. There are plenty more life sustaining functions you seem to forget that you're not advocating for.
To quote you "I feel like statements such as this haven't really been well thought out."
What kind of question is this? Why people want something that is visually appealing and interesting? You're asking as if sexy is something bad.
It was a pretty clear response.
You never mentioned anything about it being "overrepresented in a medium".
You said: "Why do people want sexy outfits? What's the importance?"
People want it because they like it. End of.
The genre of video games?I didn't, what I said was "The less incidents for male gaze the better." I feel that video games relying on such low hanging fruit as breasty women weakens the genre.
I didn't, what I said was "The less incidents for male gaze the better." I feel that video games relying on such low hanging fruit as breasty women weakens the genre.
The genre of art. Video games as a medium are sometimes limited by juvenile tropes.The genre of video games?
What is an "incident for male gaze".... like... wtf is this? Do you want a sharia type of society? Should we all put videogame characters in burqas? Men are hardwired to find pleasure on looking at women. It's not rocket science. Get over it.
Also... what is wrong with big breasts? Should devs only create characters with small breasts? This is nonsense.
Some media implies family members in some U.S. families can be taking a shower, behind curtains, while others use the toilet. Just like that wouldn't force you to look, some media portraying even bathroom visits does not mean you're forced to watch it.At some point they used the bathroom too, doesn't mean we need to see that kind of stuff.
Works for me. It's like half the reason I play Monster Hunter. What's the point of murdering three story tall dragons with a sword the size of a tree trunk and turning their entrails into protective equipment if you can't look sexy while doing it?Having a warrior woman wear armor that looks sexy but would offer no protection feels like an immature move, and doesn't work for me.
It must be nice, thinking you are better than the rest of us.Devs should be allowed to do what they want, but if the point of adding "sexy" is just for the "Ooooh, BOOBIES!", it more then likely won't appeal to me or my wallet
After all the "sex positivity" of the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s, it's hilarious that we've returned to this point.
Even more hilarious that feminists and pearl-clutching "activists" are leading the charge. It's almost as if they wanted religious influence out of the way so that they could sit on that throne themselves...
Of course not, doesn't mean they have place in everything. They are over exposed in video games. In a world where porn is accessible from our phones 24/7, do we really need cleavage and scantily clad warriors taking us out of the narrative?
But there aren't naked bodies everywhere, so what is the issue that needs to be solved?Sex positivity doesn't have anything to do with sexual exploitation of bodies.
You can have an open and thriving sexual life and be attracted by sex and bodies without necessarily asking for naked bodies everywhere.