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Japan charts: Media Create 28 Mar - 3 Apr
- Thread starter Jonnyram
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I said it when they first announced it... the standalone pack was clearly just for them to hit that "magical" launch price point. I'm really not suprised that its been quietly phased out already in favour of the clearly much more lucrative "value" pack.
Also, the drop in PSP sales isnt that surprising when you think that the import markets in the rest of the world have up until recently only been able to get their PSPs from japan which can easily drive up weekly sales by a few thousand at least.. Now with the NA version available most (if not all) of the market for imports has gone away and/or been replaced with US exports..
Also, the drop in PSP sales isnt that surprising when you think that the import markets in the rest of the world have up until recently only been able to get their PSPs from japan which can easily drive up weekly sales by a few thousand at least.. Now with the NA version available most (if not all) of the market for imports has gone away and/or been replaced with US exports..
SpoonyBard
Banned
If the fans hated Tekken 4 maybe that's why they're not buying Tekken 5 
C- Warrior
Banned
I don't see how 200,000 is bad....>_>, especially being that T5 has worldwide appeal.
Where it can sell "ok" in all three regions and still sell over a million.
Where it can sell "ok" in all three regions and still sell over a million.
Don't forget...duckroll said:
Tales of Symphonia~ 500k
Tales of Rebirth~ 800k
Crisis Zone~ 300k
R: Racing Evolution~ 300k
Katamari Damacy~ 200k
...and especially...
Baten Kaitos~ 500k
...I wonder exactly which Namco games have met targets this gen? Probably only ToD2 and SC2. :/
Here's some comparative sales for the big 3D fighters this gen...Kiriku said:
Tekken Tag Tournament (PS2) 457,340
Tekken 4 (PS2) 318,920
Virtua Fighter 3tb (DC) 308,707
Virtua Fighter 4 (PS2) 541,973
Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution (PS2) 107,254
Soul Calibur (DC) 288,604
Soul Calibur II (PS2) 144,948
Soul Calibur II (GC) 97,148
Soul Calibur II (XB) 31,815
Dead or Alive 2 (PS2) 341,362
Dead or Alive 2 Limited Edition (DC) 127,219
Dead or Alive 3 (XB) 217,149
Dead or Alive Ultimate (XB) 62,089
Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen! (GC) 182,420
Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen! 2 (GC) 396,608
Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen! 3 (GC) 356,589
Jonnyram said:
Aww man, you gave the game away. We all know what this is about. might as well change the weekly thread titles to DS vs PSP: Fight :lol
GDJustin said:
Actually there is no projected overtake date is the DS is selling faster. However the catchup date if DS sales went to 0 has gone back from the beginning of August to the beginning of October.
DCharlie said:
I wouldn't go so far as doomed but it is very worrying for Sony on 2 levels if the sales decrease of 10K each is true. Firstly, we all know the DS started off real strong and then dipped every week. In the last week of January the DS fell to 43,226. The following week it went down to 29,552, the first time you could say the sales were not great. At this point the DS stood at 1.78M. If psp sales are down to around 33,000 this week, it means that has happened with the sales at around 1.1M. That's a lot earlier when you take into account every(half decent) system has a large automatic launch audience.
Secondly, this would mean DS has gone ahead in week to week sales. Full stop, no excuses(e.g. you could have argued that psp for weeks being ahead was only temporary due to pent up launch demand so wasn't a "clean" lead, or that last weeks DS lead was temporary because of the colours). Worse still, the DS has a clear plan to maintain/increase sales in the short term(new colours and strong software) in addition to the DS sotware basically kicking ass this past month or so. On the other hand, the PSP doesn't seem to have much short term in terms of strong software or other gimmickry to push sales back up. If the rumoured sales are true then next week could be the week that people will back at as the week the DS became the winner in the war.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I said this when the DS was behind, and I'll say it again when the PSP is behind--
Lagging in week-to-week sales during the off-season is no big deal. It may indicate momentum, but the big sales are in Q4. Nobody needs to worry about anything except maintaining visibility and getting hot titles is the pipeline.
Lagging in week-to-week sales during the off-season is no big deal. It may indicate momentum, but the big sales are in Q4. Nobody needs to worry about anything except maintaining visibility and getting hot titles is the pipeline.
Yeah, I meant total sales (even without counting Tekken 5's sales, so that it's 5 versus 5). Hell you could remove T4 and T5 and VF4E, and the two series' total sales would be more or less equal.
Of course someone can argue that VF3 was released too late, and on the short-lived Dreamcast, but my reply was just to those saying that Tekken was never popular in Japan, and that it's always been VF land.
Of course someone can argue that VF3 was released too late, and on the short-lived Dreamcast, but my reply was just to those saying that Tekken was never popular in Japan, and that it's always been VF land.
No, it'd still be 5 vs 4 for "full games" in Tekken's favor. Evo is just an upgrade (though admittedly substantial by VF standards) so it's never going to have the selling power a sequel would. On a game by game basis, VF's always done better (except for VF3, which was a sloppy outsourced port on a doomed platform).Miburou said:
Well, Japan has always been VF land, but they still like Tekken. It's in a solid 2nd place.Miburou said:
The series outselling the VF series is simply due to more Tekken games released though, each VF game sells proportionately better. VF tends to perform substantially better in arcades as well.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
As long as they have similar tie ratios but DS remains ahead in overall hardware sold, it only makes sense that DS software will tend to sell better. Disagree with the next bit, too. PSP seems to be aping the console tactic of breaking even or taking a loss to get the hardware out there, in hopes of making money back with the software. The question was always whether the PSP would manage to get a significantly higher tie ratio than previous portables to make such a plan feasible.Duckhuntdog said:
Christians? Nah. But commercialized pagan/Christian mish-mashes? Oh we down with that!DCharlie said:
So very correct.Ignatz said:
If Nintendo can release a couple new colors every month or so they'll have it made over the next couple years.
Actually, that isn't a bad idea. I'm surprised more console manufacturers don't release new colors/styles every 3 months. You get a nice boost in hardware sales when it happens.
Actually, that isn't a bad idea. I'm surprised more console manufacturers don't release new colors/styles every 3 months. You get a nice boost in hardware sales when it happens.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Because that's instrucing retailers to not buy systems, but buy a certain amount every few months, lowering overall sales.Mrbob said:
JoshuaJSlone
Member
DS total: 2,023,989 (passes 2 million)
PSP total: 1,139,326
PSP's total is approximately DS's total December 22, 2004.
Nintendo portable total weekly: 61,807
Nintendo total: 65,561
Sony total: 78,028
Week over week percentages (previous in parentheses)
GCN: -17.8% (+36.1%)
GBA: +64.5% (+36.9%)
GBASP: +18.8% (+35.3%)
DS: -22.9% (+148.7%)
PS2: +9.2% (+0.3%)
PSP: -21.2% (-1.4%)
XB: -17.5% (+17.7%)
Year to date
PS2: 686,831
PSP: 657,074
DS: 528,393
GBASP: 230,380
GCN: 78,338
GBA: 7,980
XB: 5,347
Post-PSP launch (estimated)
DS: 1,384,627
PS2: 1,209,089
PSP: 1,139,326
GBASP: 624,707
GCN: 250,065
GBA: 15,908
XB: 7,504
Between DS/PSP
DS weekly share 55.9%, PSP 44.1%
DS yearly share 44.6%, PSP 55.4%
DS total share 64.0%, PSP 36.0%
DS post-PSP launch share 53.4%, PSP 46.6%
Between Nintendo portables/PSP
NP weekly share 64.6%, PSP 35.4%
NP yearly share 53.9%, PSP 46.1%
NP post-PSP launch share 64.0%, PSP 36.0%
If every week was a clone of this week, DS and PSP would meet up May 24, 2003 (not long after PSP's announcement) at -2,153,015 units apiece. If DS stopped selling but PSP continued selling at this rate every week, it would catch up October 2, 2005.
Graphically since DS launch (horizontal lines removed to more easily see the individual system lines)
And the changing DS-PSP difference
PSP total: 1,139,326
PSP's total is approximately DS's total December 22, 2004.
Nintendo portable total weekly: 61,807
Nintendo total: 65,561
Sony total: 78,028
Week over week percentages (previous in parentheses)
GCN: -17.8% (+36.1%)
GBA: +64.5% (+36.9%)
GBASP: +18.8% (+35.3%)
DS: -22.9% (+148.7%)
PS2: +9.2% (+0.3%)
PSP: -21.2% (-1.4%)
XB: -17.5% (+17.7%)
Year to date
PS2: 686,831
PSP: 657,074
DS: 528,393
GBASP: 230,380
GCN: 78,338
GBA: 7,980
XB: 5,347
Post-PSP launch (estimated)
DS: 1,384,627
PS2: 1,209,089
PSP: 1,139,326
GBASP: 624,707
GCN: 250,065
GBA: 15,908
XB: 7,504
Between DS/PSP
DS weekly share 55.9%, PSP 44.1%
DS yearly share 44.6%, PSP 55.4%
DS total share 64.0%, PSP 36.0%
DS post-PSP launch share 53.4%, PSP 46.6%
Between Nintendo portables/PSP
NP weekly share 64.6%, PSP 35.4%
NP yearly share 53.9%, PSP 46.1%
NP post-PSP launch share 64.0%, PSP 36.0%
If every week was a clone of this week, DS and PSP would meet up May 24, 2003 (not long after PSP's announcement) at -2,153,015 units apiece. If DS stopped selling but PSP continued selling at this rate every week, it would catch up October 2, 2005.
Graphically since DS launch (horizontal lines removed to more easily see the individual system lines)
And the changing DS-PSP difference
Myoclonic Jerk
Member
is Nintendo doing the "right" thing for a change with the DS ?
plenty of support, very good sales, and things just look to be better in the future ..
I'm really interested to see how will it do when Nintendogs is released ..
plenty of support, very good sales, and things just look to be better in the future ..
I'm really interested to see how will it do when Nintendogs is released ..
He's using flawed math. While it makes sense, theoretically, it is actually not possible, as there can be no sales data of both systems before the launch period, realistically. :lol (negative time is non existent)GSG Flash said:
and how. i take every sale of a ds as a personal affront, and this week there were NIGH ON FIFTY THOUSAND OF THEM.
edit: oh wait - perhaps you think new ds colors weren't released. they were. last week. though you'll have to ask jonnyram what colors specifically.
edit: oh wait - perhaps you think new ds colors weren't released. they were. last week. though you'll have to ask jonnyram what colors specifically.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
The math is not flawed. Interpreting it to project a meeting of negative sales in the past is flawed. But for good fun!GaimeGuy said:
Since DS beat out PSP by ~9000 this week, for each week we go back PSP would gain 9000 on DS. So going back about 100 weeks catches it up.GSG Flash said:
nintendo fans often have this inscrutable quality. either you can't follow their thinking or you can't tell what they're talking about. or both. it leads you to assume that they're not native english speakers. odnetnin, where are you from, anyway? and for god's sake what's going on over there?