Shmunter
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Print it and bury too!
Revolution in real time data.
im bookmarking that quote.
Print it and bury too!
Revolution in real time data.
im bookmarking that quote.
No I think it should be on the back cover of every PS5 game, exclusive or not.Print it and bury too!
Now you’re just sucking upNo I think it should be on the back cover of every PS5 game, exclusive or not.
It’s a good one.
All true, but it’s hard to praise equally two super models standing next to each other when one is in a bikini and the other in a burka, The more attractive package gets all the attention.If they were serious about it they would be praising both, flat out, but they're not. It's super one dimensional fluffing for a singular product with motivation behind it. Both are an incredible step forward, both will be lightning fast, and for Microsoft's side there's more going on with the system memory and that wider bus relative to the SSD than just the bandwidth suggests, it's highly intentional.
It's holding out for secret sauce. What more could Cerny convey about the system? He went over everything.
I suspect because it was nothing but a repurposed PowerPoint GCC presentation. The flash is reserved for a press conference. Whenever that comes.You’re selling a gaming console, why isn’t so insane show some games? All the talk of “Under a month of getting up to speed” and you can’t display atleast one game to show the capabilities of the console?
The Xbox Series X controller is going to become an embarrassment in comparison once PlayStation unveils the DualShock 5 with its new innovations like haptic feedback and so forth.Could be some of that. Fanboys here, there, everywhere. But much off it could also be genuine, not all are shackled to keeping a low profile so as not to alienate the other side.
My assessment based on simple truths; devs have been technically shackled for generations. This gen represents a paradigm shift of significant substance, and they have every right to be excited.
Keeping in mind, XsX does offer this too. Just nowhere near the competition.
I suspect because it was nothing but a repurposed PowerPoint GCC presentation. The flash is reserved for a press conference. Whenever that comes.
Sony fucked up the pr, no two ways about it.
They’re part time idiotsthis is what I don’t get
during PS3 Reveal and GDC2013
PS4 games actually have been shown.
also, Microsoft showed a few demos at this GDC, like Minecraft ray tracing and gears5 box enhanced for series x.
Why didn’t sony show anything?
Third party devs aren't really going to get to take advantage of the SSD's of either system for the foreseeable future. They need to develop for HDDs. So its understandable if most of them aren't that excited yet. However Jason Scheier did mention third party devs among those excited at one point.The only developers getting 'boners' and posting this shock and awe nonsense on Twitter and the like are heavily related to Sony, past or present workers, 2nd party studios, people who have partnerships with them etc.
Give me a break...
I suspect because it was nothing but a repurposed PowerPoint GCC presentation. The flash is reserved for a press conference. Whenever that comes.
Sony fucked up the pr, no two ways about it.
Jason leaks that PS5 has less Tflops
Xbox guys: I knew it, Xbox has the power crown, X gon' give it to ya
Jason leaks that developers are saying that PS5 is superior in some ways
Xbox guys: Jason is always shilling for PlayStation and he has no sources
Sony flat out stated that their testing showed their design should be more efficient than a wider slower chip (XsX GPU), the question is how much.
You made up stuff. Good job?Jason leaks that both consoles are going for 10.7+. TF
Sony guys: Jason is so well connected I knew Github was wrong
Jason leaks PS5 is “the most exciting hardware in 20 years”
Sony guys: Wow Jason really knows his stuff
Jason leaks PS5 is in fact weaker than Xbox
Sony guys: Well what does he really know
Jason leaks PS5 has unknown secret sauce that will make it more impressive than XSX
Sony guys: Jason is back baby!
Wait until you see the 1st party gamesThe fact that Sony keeps needing to explain itself and emphasize how they are more powerful than the new x box in some ways demonstrates they realize they realized an underpowered machine, pretty much like microsoft when they released the original xbox one
Probably would have been a good idea to communicate them.
Jason leaks that both consoles are going for 10.7+. TF
Sony guys: Jason is so well connected I knew Github was wrong
Jason leaks PS5 is “the most exciting hardware in 20 years”
Sony guys: Wow Jason really knows his stuff
Jason leaks PS5 is in fact weaker than Xbox
Sony guys: Well what does he really know
Jason leaks PS5 has unknown secret sauce that will make it more impressive than XSX
Sony guys: Jason is back baby!
Same guy who said PS5 had the same power as the Xbox series? This guy trying to downplay Xbox. For me this is evidence he is a fanboy. A neutral journalist would not downplay another console over another!
Pretty accurate summary LOL.
Or if it is true at all. Cerny didn't say PS5 was faster than Xbox. He just explained why they went that way.
Imho it was just cost cutting. 36 smaller CUs is much less expensive than 56 bigger CUs.
As a 38 year old who has lived through every console generation, I find it hilarious that after all these years people still get hung up on how many gigashits and terrafucks a console has.
Will the Xsex have Uncharted, God of War, Last of Us, PSVR, Spider-Man, Rachet and Clank or the dozens of other first party Sony games ? No. So if Call of Duty and Assassins Creed look and Run slightly better on the X then oh well, that’s not why I’m a PlayStation guy.
Also, look at the difference between Double Dragon on Master system vs. NES, or Mortal Kombat on SNES vs Genesis. That was when power difference mattered. Now of days you could throw two of the exact same screen shots next to each and slightly decrease the brightness on one of those pictures and people will be like ”Jesus the one on the left looks HORRIBLE !”
"Revolutionary"????Meanwhile on Sony side is Revolutionary approach on their PS5 with believing that Storage usage is part of game development that need to be used wisely thus a new SSD structure that will change the gaming ways + New Sound Engine that will show realism on their games
Of course there was no difference between Xbox One and PS4 with Xbox absolutely not having worse resolution, detail along with and worse framerate in many cases . Those things absolutely didn't impact gaming experience....As a 38 year old who has lived through every console generation, I find it hilarious that after all these years people still get hung up on how many gigashits and terrafucks a console has.
Will the Xsex have Uncharted, God of War, Last of Us, PSVR, Spider-Man, Rachet and Clank or the dozens of other first party Sony games ? No. So if Call of Duty and Assassins Creed look and Run slightly better on the X then oh well, that’s not why I’m a PlayStation guy.
Also, look at the difference between Double Dragon on Master system vs. NES, or Mortal Kombat on SNES vs Genesis. That was when power difference mattered. Now of days you could throw two of the exact same screen shots next to each and slightly decrease the brightness on one of those pictures and people will be like ”Jesus the one on the left looks HORRIBLE !”
I think there is a reason for faster frequency and narrower designs.
Hehe, maybe that too, but there are legitimate actual reasons. Development efficiency wise reasons... which is why they keep trying to go high performance with high clocks over and over.Yeah having to pay less for hardware and in the end consumer paying less.
I think there is a reason for faster frequency and narrower designs.
Yup, to make the gap between Xbox series x and ps5 smaller, they needed get at least a double digit TFLOPS number, otherwise it would be a psychological PR Desaster - having just a Single digit TFLOPS number.
The Xbox Series X controller is going to become an embarrassment in comparison once PlayStation unveils the DualShock 5 with its new innovations like haptic feedback and so forth.
This is why this thread exists because the GDC panel didn't show everything that PlayStation 5 has to offer as a whole package, while Xbox already revealed just about everything except concept/gameplay trailers of their new and established IPs, respectively.
Immersion, DUH!Microsoft has a lot more to reveal, it is not just next gen games, and they can do it any time anywhere.
Lets just say a third party developer makes a cross gen game for both XsX and PS5. The developer has optimized the game for PS5 to utilize its new sound capabilities, fast SSD drive, haptic controllers. Digital Foundry does a side by side comparison and states that the XsX visuals are superior, but PS5 offers more immersion. What would you choose?
Keep console warring and the old “for something to be great another one must be shit”. Or... :sigh: go read yourself articles about braniac design approaches vs speed demon ones.
Are you posting to troll others, to win a PR fight and defeat other console warriors or are you trying to actually make a point? I can understand both, just asking...
The people that keep saying "SSDs already existed huehuehue" don't have a grasp on how customized the PS5 SSD is and how fast it is"Revolutionary"????
SSDs have existed since YEARS ago (I dare even say more than a decade).
"New" sound engine???
Come on... Dolby Atmos has existed since 2012 and it has been implemented on Xbox One (and will be on Xbox Series X), PCs, cellphones, soundbars, receivers, etc.
Heck, they even laugh at the attempt made by Sony to try to compete with them. https://developer.dolby.com/blog/spatial-audio-and-the-ps5/
There's no way to spin Sony's mistake. Really, there isn't.
why else would they do this then? Why would they overclock the machine so damn much and using VARIABLE frequencies making it harder for devs to optimize? Just for fun?
It’s obvious why they did this. Anyway. Back on topic:
So, a former SONY-Dev said this:
wonder Jason thinks about this. Lol
why else would they do this then? Why would they overclock the machine so damn much and using VARIABLE frequencies making it harder for devs to optimize? Just for fun?
It’s obvious why they did this. Anyway. Back on topic:
So, a former SONY-Dev said this:
wonder Jason thinks about this. Lol
why else would they do this then? Why would they overclock the machine so damn much and using VARIABLE frequencies making it harder for devs to optimize? Just for fun?
It’s obvious why they did this. Anyway. Back on topic:
So, a former SONY-Dev said this:
wonder Jason thinks about this. Lol
You can still get better results than RT on consoles through rasterization"Unless AMDs RT scales negatively XSX will have better RT performance" Pretty funny : D
why else would they do this then? Why would they overclock the machine so damn much and using VARIABLE frequencies making it harder for devs to optimize? Just for fun?
Than it's not ray-tracing. Sure they can work hand-in hand for certain aspect of the game. True, full raytracing is not possible I think.You can still get better results than RT on consoles through rasterization
No lol. People are laughing at those devs who say PS5 is more powerful or equally powerful because it goes against actual specs of the console, while they agree with those who say Series X is more powerful because it is .This means what devs were saying about the PS5 is wrong?
I've seen people post devs comments and all I keep seeing was
"Oh, the damage control"
"He's a Sony dev.'
It clear that there are people who are going to support a devs comment based on the narrative they want to follow.
The people that keep saying "SSDs already existed huehuehue" don't have a grasp on how customized the PS5 SSD is and how fast it is
No lol. People are laughing at those devs who say PS5 is more powerful or equally powerful because it goes against actual specs of the console, while they agree with those who say Series X is more powerful because it is .
It doesn't have to be RT to look better. RT has its benefits but some developers have gotten so good at lighting solutions that they can make some RT implementations look worse on consolesThan it's not ray-tracing. Sure they can work hand-in hand for certain aspect of the game. True, full raytracing is not possible I think.
Great point! Some just refuse to see or acknowledge things when it doesn't help their caseAsk them why the Velocity Architecture and SSD as Virtual Memory is such a big deal on XSX while taking an SSD and connecting it to Xbox One X did not offer anywhere near the same new possibilities and benefits.
Seek times are out of the question... what is left.. ah yes, bandwidth... uhm, so giving people more than 2x the bandwidth is now meaningless? ...