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[Russell]

This is no way in hell PlayStation 4 is launching in 2013. This pretty much confirms it.

Think about it like this:

PlayStation 3 was unveiled at E3 in May 2005, yet the system didn't launch until November 2006.

 

[Lion Heart]

I'd do the same thing, let others reveal their shit and then you can respond accordingly. Although at this point MS would have finalized their box so they won't be one upping you.

Its not like GT5 revealing too early and Forza stealing some of its stuff like Top Gears license.

 

[Busty]

Sony is going to Sony.

..., but when they get to Sony will they Sony or just go ahead and Sony all over their Sony while Sony just sits and Sony Sony Sony Sony.

 

[Audioboxer]

This has probably more to do with pricing and resease schedule than what's actually in the box.

Bingo. Calm down people.

 

[ElyrionX]

So he's planning on continuing the fine Sony tradition of stealing their competitor's ideas, huh?

 

[Chuck Norris]

"No one knows definitely when Microsoft and Sony will UNVEIL their successors to the current Xbox and PlayStation, but Sony CEO Kazuo Hirai has said that it will let Microsoft make the first move.

In the Business section of The Times today, Hirai said, "Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?""

Unveil first, guys, UNVEIL. NOT LAUNCH FIRST.

Some of us are a bit skeptical of game journalist's accuracy when paraphrasing, and not providing a quote in context

Anybody got a copy of the times?

 

[amrihua]

Give Microsoft a head start again, why not? it worked the last time

Spoiler

for microsoft

 

[The Omega Man]

late 2014 early 2015 release date then.

 

[specialguy]

yeah right. refer back to this when ps4 is announced first in late march.

also, consoles take years in lead times, there isnt time to change much of anything unless you want a year delay. maybe clocks a little bit.

 

[fluffydelusions]

So Sony scared?

 

[i-Lo]

 

[Chuck Norris]

So he's planning on continuing the fine Sony tradition of stealing their competitor's ideas, huh?

Yah I hear they are coming out with a motion sensing camera

 

[Dabanton]

If this is Kaz's idea of mind games then it's pretty laughable.

 

[Betrayer of hope]

Yah I hear they are coming out with a motion sensing camera

you mean eyetoy?

 

[Akkad]

So he's planning on continuing the fine Sony tradition of stealing their competitor's ideas, huh?

Kinda like how you stole the same tired joke.

 

[Kafel]

It worked really well this gen Kaz.

PS4 in 2014 when all the devs tend to say they prefer to develop on the 720 ? Smart.

 

[i-Lo]

So this could mean that no more leaks before May for Sony and something earlier for MS.

 

[aganu]

So Microsoft to announce in GDC, Sony in May.

 

[aparisi2274]

Hirai said, "Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?"

Really Kaz??

So, the Move was just something completely original, and not taken from the Wiimote?

Rumors suggesting that the PS4 will move away from the DS and over to something with a tablet screen in it? Oh, like the WiiU Gamepad?

Come on Kaz, be original!!

 

[sajj316]

Nice! Hope you don't mind me saving this one

 

[Kyon]

People being dumb in this thread

.

 

[ElyrionX]

Kinda like how you stole the same tired joke.

It's not a joke.

 

[Evolution_1ne]

So Microsoft to announce in GDC, Sony in May.

shhhh!!! not now, this is test of peoples reading comprehension

 

[Kouriozan]

What? They are copying Nintendo once again?

Spoiler

joking

It's always the same thing, the fear to be copied and made better, like the AR on 3DS.

 

[ironcreed]

They should do the reveal at the same time and lay their cards out for all to see.

 

[i-Lo]

Nice! Hope you don't mind me saving this one

No problem.

 

[Commanche Raisin Toast]

i don't think he means so SONY can change their specs, i think he just means keeping MS from changing THEIRS. MS might be dumb enough or have the cash to last minute change their hardware and risk another RROD fiasco but sony won't/can't do it. (aside from the 2GB increase that supposedly happened last year, but that's still just rumor and unconfirmed)

 

[noffles]

Really Kaz??

So, the Move was just something completely original, and not taken from the Wiimote?

Rumors suggesting that the PS4 will move away from the DS and over to something with a tablet screen in it? Oh, like the WiiU Gamepad?

Come on Kaz, be original!!

This generation is going to be a complete shit up if there's no standardised control method. Saying that Sony's copying Nintendo for the sake of it is just naive.

 

[Akkad]

It worked really well this gen Kaz.

PS4 in 2014 when all the devs tend to say they prefer to develop on the 720 ? Smart.

Just stop. That had to do with the 360 architecture being easier to work with than PS3, not launch date.

 

[gofreak]

OK, IGN's being a bit leading in presenting the context as relating specifically to MS.

I have the original article in front of me.

It says

"Gamers, meanwhile, are waiting for the release of its next generation of consoles, six years after Playstation 3 was launched - although Mr. Hirai hinted that Sony would wait for the likes of Microsoft and Nintendo to make the first move. "Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?""

This is the same generic-y answer Jack Tretton gave last E3 about being best, not first. The context is Nintendo too, not necessarily Microsoft alone.

 

[RMI]

Why go first? He then proceeds to go first .... the mind games begin.

This would be extremely awesome.

 

[The Elite]

They should do the reveal at the same time and lay their cards out for all to see.

Let MS reveal first. Let them announce their price and date.

Sony announces release on same day and $10 cheaper.

Systemwarz!

 

[alr1ght]

May we get the original quote/context? Surely someone has an account at thetimes.co.uk

 

[BadWolf]

OK, IGN's being a bit leading in presenting the context as relating specifically to MS.

I have the original article in front of me.

It says

"Gamers, meanwhile, are waiting for the release of its next generation of consoles, six years after Playstation 3 was launched - although Mr. Hirai hinted that Sony would wait for the likes of Microsoft and Nintendo to make the first move. "Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?""

This is the same generic-y answer Jack Tretton gave last E3 about being best, not first. The context is Nintendo too, not necessarily Microsoft alone.

Pass, this version won't fuel as much hate.

 

[Busty]

They should do the reveal at the same time and lay their cards out for all to see.

..., and inexplicably Don Mattrick screams 'DOMINO MOTHERFUCKER' and walks off to the confusion of all.

 

[funkystudent]

Shouldnt Sony and MS both already know what the other is going to have?

I mean its not hard to see someone like Epic having both dev kits before ANYONE and Microsoft using there relationship with Epic to get a peak of the PS4.

I am sure sony could do the same with some other studio.

 

[Elios83]

It's just a PR-answer to avoid talking about unannounced products.
IGN is turning it into something else to get hits.

 

[ironcreed]

Let MS reveal first. Let them announce their price and date.

Sony announces release on same day and $10 cheaper.

Systemwarz!

LOL, there will be plenty of that noise alright.

 

[Bgamer90]

"No one knows definitely when Microsoft and Sony will UNVEIL their successors to the current Xbox and PlayStation, but Sony CEO Kazuo Hirai has said that it will let Microsoft make the first move.

In the Business section of The Times today, Hirai said, "Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?""

Unveil first, guys, UNVEIL. NOT LAUNCH FIRST.

Good point.

We'll see though.

I know that Sony likes to unveil products/games a pretty long time before they actually release.

The PS3 was unveiled back in 2005 but didn't come out until late 2006.

 

[Dany]

Did Kaz just confirm that Sony copies?

Sixaxis, trophies, Move...anything else?

 

[shinobi602]

OK, IGN's being a bit leading in presenting the context as relating specifically to MS.

I have the original article in front of me.

It says

"Gamers, meanwhile, are waiting for the release of its next generation of consoles, six years after Playstation 3 was launched - although Mr. Hirai hinted that Sony would wait for the likes of Microsoft and Nintendo to make the first move. "Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?""

This is the same generic-y answer Jack Tretton gave last E3 about being best, not first. The context is Nintendo too, not necessarily Microsoft alone.

Well, the Wii U's already out. Only one left now is Microsoft. I think it's pretty obvious he's referring to them. The "and Nintendo" was inferred by the author.

 

[Akkad]

Sixaxis, trophies, Move...anything else?

Who did they copy with the Sixaxis?

 

[gofreak]

There's a couple of other more general, interesting notes in the article. Hirai talks openly about replacing everyone in senior management when he came, except for two people. 'Where I come from, either you play under my rules or you are not playing. That's why reassignments happen. Everybody plays nicely together now because they all understand what the rules are". The report also says that he apparently demands to see almost every product the company makes, unboxed, so he can experience it as a customer does, and sends products back if he's not happy with them.

I said before that Sony needed maybe a little bit of a dictator to just come in and order things to be done, and maybe he is that person...

 

[Dany]

Who did they copy with the Sixaxis?

Motion controls from the Wii.

 

[Clear]

Lets not forget the allegations that the Sony funded work at IBM on CELL directly benefited the 360's chip design, seems to me that this time the boot's on the other foot.

 

[Doug Heffernan]

lol idk who the hell that PitBull douche is or why he got his own bud light commercial, only thing worse is that jerk who breaks into his old apartment to sit in his lucky spot

 

[Kyon]

There's a couple of other more general, interesting notes in the article. Hirai talks openly about replacing everyone in senior management when he came, except for two people. 'Where I come from, either you play under my rules or you are not playing. That's why reassignments happen. Everybody plays nicely together now because they all understand what the rules are". The report also says that he apparently demands to see almost every product the company makes, unboxed, so he can experience it as a customer does, and sends products back if he's not happy with them.

I said before that Sony needed maybe a little bit of a dictator to just come in and order things to be done, and maybe he is that person...

Just finished reading and yes you're right. I believe he is IT. This is who they needed to lead

 

[twinturbo2]

Best gif in the thread, hands down.

 

[i-Lo]

Motion controls from the Wii.

FYI, sixaxis was in development before Wii controller. For the rest, however, I say you got them.

 

[Hrothgar]

So Sony will unveil the PS4 after they've put it in the shops? That's certainly going to catch the competition by surprise!