GrandHarrier
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But they are comfortable to me. Or are we just going to pretend like the stand doesn't exist?
3DS is supposed to be portable. The stand is not portable.
But they are comfortable to me. Or are we just going to pretend like the stand doesn't exist?
Guys don't worry about controls, the second best player in the world says they are just fine.
EDIT, wait you mean 2nd place in each match?
You keep mentioning "strawman" but haven't mentioned which on it is.
It's a fact people are having more problems than usual controlling the game. There have been a lot more emphasis on controlling issues with this Nintendo release. The strawman only lies in your hurt ego, so sorry for that i guess.
My point always been these issues warrant consideration and should not be silenced.
So the issues are factual,
3DS is supposed to be portable. The stand is not portable.
It's not worth it. Someone who can't tell the difference between facts and opinions is going to have a hell of a time figuring out what a straw man is.
I actually use the face buttons for aiming while on-foot at the moment. Much more comfortable despite the lack of accuracy.Am I one of the few people who uses a Circle Pad Pro and aims with the A/B/X/Y buttons? Perhaps Peace Walker on the PSP got me used to that control scheme but it seems less painful to my hands, and makes using the 3D less annoying, considering the stylus input really makes you move the system.
I dunno about others, by my issue is one of comfort not functionality.So is this thread about weak minded people who can't open their mind and learn a new control scheme or what? The game offers tons of options for control schemes/sensitivity/the works, but because it doesn't offer the traditional dual analog control scheme it needs to be held accountable? Lolwut. There's plenty of people saying there's a learning curve. If you're not willing to put up with it or can't get it at all, stop playing. Move on.
That's easy to clarify. My problem is not with "Nintendo fanboys" is fanatics in general. Im not constructing "strawmen" for when i refer to fanaticism because it something real that we see everyday in message boards. People grasping at straws to defend their point of view.Let me count the ways.
1) The aforementioned "Nintendo fanboys" is a massive strawman that you take distinct pleasure in ripping into again and again. Want to continue using that particular one? Go for it. See how hard I cry? If this was paper, the ink would be so smeared, it would be awful.
The original poster was being criticized for making complaints. There have been situations in which the complainer of KI controls is considered "weak sause" in other threads. Anyway, this is a f@cking trivial point to argue, don't know why you even mentioned.... wait i do know.hardcastlemccormick said:2) The claim that anyone in this thread things that the "complains" must be silenced.
A large group of people, more than we normally see, is complaining about control issues. So it should be considered a real problem. So what now?hardcastlemccormick said:4) That there's anyone attacking you for anything other that semantic reasons. Your claims that these "complains" are factual is complete and utter nonsense, and demonstrates a distinct lack of knowledge on what the word actually means.
Yea, i'll be missing your up to the point and brilliant examples, like Mario Kart Wheel vs KI stand. Maybe you and hardcastlemccormick should continue the team up so you have chances to conceive some good arguments back.It's not worth it. Someone who can't tell the difference between facts and opinions is going to have a hell of a time figuring out what a straw man is.
It's not worth it. Someone who can't tell the difference between facts and opinions is going to have a hell of a time figuring out what a straw man is.
I dunno about others, by my issue is one of comfort not functionality.
That's easy to clarify. My problem is not with "Nintendo fanboys" is fanatics in general. Im not constructing "strawmen" for when i refer to fanaticism because it something real that we see everyday in message boards. People grasping at straws to defend their point of view.
The original poster was being criticized for making complaints.
There have been situations in which the complainer of KI controls is considered "weak sause" in other threads.
Anyway, this is a f@cking trivial point to argue, don't know why you even mentioned.... wait i do know.
A large group of people, more than we normally see, is complaining about control issues. So it should be considered a real problem. So what now?
You just chose to center in this "semantic" matter just to argue back. This is not a discussion about "semantics", it is a discussion about potential issues controlling the game. And my observations in regards to these have been valid. So what now? The point of argument should be my atrocious orthography.
It's portable enough to suit all of my needs.3DS is supposed to be portable. The stand is not portable.
I don't know about you but I am generally not moving around a lot when I'm playing games at home. I really don't see why it's such a hassle to set a pillow in your lap and put the 3DS on a stand. It takes all of 20 seconds or so. Again, if you're interested in taking the system on a train or something then I can understand why this is an issue, but sitting on the couch at home I just don't see why it's such a big deal.So...put a pillow in your lap. Place stand on pillow. Place 3DS on stand. Play!
Yeesh.
It works for you...that's great.
I'll limit my Kid Icarus playing to when I'm near a flat surface...such as a table.
As an aside, I make my daughter use the stand when she plays Nintendogs. It totally keeps her stapled to her seat. +1 for the stand.
I'll give that a shot later.I haven't read through the thread, but have you tried using the stand on a table that sits a little bit higher than you? (like if you're sitting, the edge of the table is at like lower chest height) That's what I use. I can't hold the 3DS with my left hand while using the game, it cramps up.
You don't need to do anything since the issue probably can't be solved, but you do need to be held accountable for your erroneous taste.Is there a factual list of what controls are good / bad? I want to know so I can be prepared in the future and make sure I'm right.
I like the controls in Kid Icarus, which are factually bad so I think something may be wrong with me. I'm also not very good at Dual Analog aiming, which is factually good. This also points to something being wrong with me.
Do I see a doctor for this? Does Nintendo owe me money?
I hold the stylus really differently but it might be something worth trying. Basically I don't hold it like a pen, I actually hold it so it's "under" my hand, if you can imagine that. I keep it between my thumb and middle finger and let my index finger rest on top of it near the end. It's kind of hard to describe but hopefully this makes sense.dark10x said:The main issue I'm having is stylus comfort. It really digs into my finger which becomes uncomfortable after a bit. I might have to dig up a full size pen stylus for this one.
Is there a factual list of what controls are good / bad? I want to know so I can be prepared in the future and make sure I'm right.
I like the controls in Kid Icarus, which are factually bad so I think something may be wrong with me. I'm also not very good at Dual Analog aiming, which is factually good. This also points to something being wrong with me.
Do I see a doctor for this? Does Nintendo owe me money?
I'll give that a shot later.
The main issue I'm having is stylus comfort. It really digs into my finger which becomes uncomfortable after a bit. I might have to dig up a full size pen stylus for this one.
Subjective or not its besides the point, the game is getting a lot of complains in regards to its controls. Some refer to it's unusual setup, some in terms of ergonomics or both.These kind of topics (or any topic) never diminish my enjoyment of a game and or system. However, these kind of threads are necessary for those who feel the need to discuss the issues they may have with software or hardware at a safe distance away from the OT's.
I'm not going to wast my time debating with someone over something that is completely subjective in my eyes. Gunvalkyrie comes to mind.
Oh, i kind of get why (maybe) is the confusion. The "fact" is a larger group of people, more than usual, is complaining about the controls in this game. That's what i consider "the fact". Is that so bad?Controls are never "factual".
What works for some people, might not work for others.
It is a fact though that the Stylus offers more precision than Dual Analog ever could.
Whether you like that or not is another matter.
No one is trying to derail the thread in order to avoid the real issue here, it just rubs some people the wrong way when you state things as "fact" that are completely subjective.Subjective or not its besides the point, the games getting a lot of complains in regards to its controls. Some refer to it's unusual setup, some in terms of ergonomics or both.
Yet some defensive people, want to argue back in some way, so they derail the thread to semantics or the ineptitude of not knowing what a strawman is. Everyone knows that grasping the concept of what an "strawman" is makes KI control issues suddenly disappear
Subjective or not its besides the point, the game is getting a lot of complains in regards to its controls. Some refer to it's unusual setup, some in terms of ergonomics or both.
Yet some defensive people, want to argue back in some way, so they derail the thread to semantics or the ineptitude of not knowing what a strawman is. Everyone knows that grasping the concept of what an "strawman" is makes KI control issues suddenly disappear
This may not be the best place to ask, but... sometimes when I'm playing, the game zooms into first person mode. I don't know what I did to make that happen and how I get out of it. It just... happens. I don't like it. What am I doing wrong?
This may not be the best place to ask, but... sometimes when I'm playing, the game zooms into first person mode. I don't know what I did to make that happen and how I get out of it. It just... happens. I don't like it. What am I doing wrong?
This may not be the best place to ask, but... sometimes when I'm playing, the game zooms into first person mode. I don't know what I did to make that happen and how I get out of it. It just... happens. I don't like it. What am I doing wrong?
You don't need to do anything since the issue probably can't be solved, but you do need to be held accountable for your erroneous taste.
This may not be the best place to ask, but... sometimes when I'm playing, the game zooms into first person mode. I don't know what I did to make that happen and how I get out of it. It just... happens. I don't like it. What am I doing wrong?
As an English major, I think it's hilarious when people feel the need to correct another person's grammar on a message board. Get over it.
I think double tapping can do this, as well as the X button if that's what you set it to.
with standard controls X toggles first person.
you're double tapping the screen
Double tap the screen to zoom in with select weapons.
I'll give that a shot later.
The main issue I'm having is stylus comfort. It really digs into my finger which becomes uncomfortable after a bit. I might have to dig up a full size pen stylus for this one.
3DS is supposed to be portable. The stand is not portable.
Yeah, you kinda missed the point, didn't you? That's alright, keep studying, student.
Um. Okay?
I think?
lol.
Have fun being the grammar police on sites where many people don't bother, don't care, or might not speak English as a first language.
That seems pocket-able to me.
I don't use the stand, for whatever it's worth.
I did the first day, haven't since.