Rez said:I blame (thank?) Nick Breken!
Can't wait to hear what they say about this on the next cast. The Idle Thumbs kiss of death. Obviously the Godfather of podcasts.
Rez said:I blame (thank?) Nick Breken!
Haeleos said:"We had intended to convey the reality of the battles to players so that they could feel what it was like to be there. So here we have this giant enemy crab..."
After the reports that came out from it's initial showing, they did very little to support that they were going to treat the material with respect.
Sums it up pretty nicely. There are practically no games that treat the conflict they're based on with respect. The closest I've seen is the first Ghost Recon and even there you killed at least 80 people through the campaign.Opiate said:There's really no way to treat this with respect and also make a video game.
If it were treating the material with respect, you might kill one enemy combatant in the game. There would be no bosses. No health packs. No restoration shields of any kind. And that's just for starters: the full requirements would go much deeper than this.
To give this "proper respect," instead of just making a game, a la CoD or what have you, would be either painful, boring, or both, to most consumers, including those on GAF.
Here's a simple example: if I were to shoot 20 enemy combatants in my career as a real Marine, I would be given every medal under the sun. In "Six Days in Fallujah," that was apparently the first ten minutes of the game.
These people seriously need a reality check. Having seen the early impressions of the game, it's insulting to think these people thought this paid proper homage to the Marines, because if this is what you think is "proper respect," then you have betrayed an utter and complete lack of genuine understanding.
Actually.. Vietnam is kinda known for being the first televised war. It wasn't 24/7 CNN land like the first Gulf War was later on, but the whole reason for the anti-Vietnam movement was that we were finally seeing unfiltered footage from an actual war... as opposed to heavily propagandized and simplified AMERICA ON THE MARCH newsreel footage during WWII.ZombieSupaStar said:comparing Iraq to WW2 and Vietnam is an insult imo the the veterans of those 2 wars.
imagine we had D-Day on CNN live feed like we had shock and awe..... yeah.
It was pretty damn fucking hard though. Such an unforgiving game. They don't make tactical shooters like they used to and I was hoping Six Days would've been like that.Brobzoid said:Sums it up pretty nicely. There are practically no games that treat the conflict they're based on with respect. The closest I've seen is the first Ghost Recon and even there you killed at least 80 people through the campaign.
If they still said that it would be realistic and an unbiased telling of the conflict I'd pretty much feel the same way even if it was set in Muslim fantasy town #124.Sloane said:Should have named it 'Six Days in a city in some Middle Eastern country' and nobody would have had a problem with that.
so what you sayin is there isnt no health pack in real war, so you just up and die?? wtf...hmm maybe them protest people not to bad then I guessOpiate said:There's really no way to treat this with respect and also make a video game.
If it were treating the material with respect, you might kill one enemy combatant in the game. There would be no bosses. No health packs. No restoration shields of any kind. And that's just for starters: the full requirements would go much deeper than this.
To give this "proper respect," instead of just making a game, a la CoD or what have you, would be either painful, boring, or both, to most consumers, including those on GAF.
Here's a simple example: if I were to shoot 20 enemy combatants in my career as a real Marine, I would be given every medal under the sun. In "Six Days in Fallujah," that was apparently the first ten minutes of the game.
These people seriously need a reality check. Having seen the early impressions of the game, it's insulting to think these people thought this paid proper homage to the Marines, because if this is what you think is "proper respect," then you have betrayed an utter and complete lack of genuine understanding.
Amir0x said:Sucks.
HyperZone<3 said:so just out of curiosity's sake, how many non-soccer HD games that we know for sure are coming out from Konami now?
Saw and...?
ZOE 3 is a Wii game if there ever was one. and Konami's Mega Man is over-saturated like a motherfucker, even if the two people who played the last one loved it.AniHawk said:ZOE 3.
Konami really doesn't make a lot of great games. Metal Gear Solid, PES, and Mega Man and that's it.
Fuck that. TheLiara T'Soni said:Konami announces : Swine Flu : 6 Days in Mexico
Developers have spoken to those who have been through it, so they know how it feels.
Tiduz said:i hate it when they pull a game due to whiny bitches.
glad it didnt happen with RE5.
AniHawk said:RE5 wasn't a retelling of the genocide in Rwanda.
AniHawk said:ZOE 3.
Konami really doesn't make a lot of great games. Metal Gear Solid, PES, and Mega Man and that's it.
Tiduz said:it did get alot of whining. i mean wtf, its a game, its just annoying, let the people make the game they want to make, if you dont like it dont buy it
next thing you know they are gonna whine about movies too.
AniHawk said:Movies and video games are not the same thing. Movies, for one, can be considered art.
And, yeah, RE5 did get a lot of whining, but not because it was a realistic recreation of something recent.
Movies romanticized WWII way before video games were even being first developed. Also, it was one war where there's this agreed-upon good vs. evil struggle. Even Germany tries to sweep up what they did 70-80 years ago.panda21 said:if you read some of the previews its very clear the game was not going to be in the least bit tastefully handled or accurate.
turning something that happened so recently and that resulted in a lot of civilians dying into a game where you run around like rambo blasting arabs is not in good taste.
hell i thought putting generic arab countries in cod4 alongside the usual evil russians was pretty low.
nazis have effectively become a kind of symbol of generic unhuman evil like zombies or something in popular culture so thats kind of different
Rez said:regenerating health.
regenerating health.
akachan ningen said:What a bunch of pussies. I wasn't into the idea of this game but now I hope it gets published just to spite the whiners.
Prine said:Erm... i think the loss of their son/daughter is painful enough.