GiantBreadbug
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Let's get Snake back in Smash then maybe
I don't really play any of their games I just want Snake back in Smash
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Konami Rep Says 'I Hope We Earn You Back'
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UrbanDandy
Member
Ironically, SNK went through their pachinko business segment instead of making games, and when that segment started going south, they focused on making games again. That's why there's a new KOF game now.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
You know what? If there was a total tonal change in Konami's approach I could forgive them. Learning from their mistakes would be good by me. But I can't see that happening due to their umbrella nature.
The seniors at the top of the holding company no doubt see high barrier to entry and huge risk of never recouping that cost.
The seniors at the top of the holding company no doubt see high barrier to entry and huge risk of never recouping that cost.
CyberPunked
Member
They remade some scenes.
Zoloft Sonic
Member
<<do everything wrong>>
"Sorry"
"Head-scratching" is right for this announcement. By all accounts it sounded like Konami was done with the business of making video games as we know them.
"Sorry"
"Head-scratching" is right for this announcement. By all accounts it sounded like Konami was done with the business of making video games as we know them.
Bloodporne
Member
Wow, can't wait for this amazingly enticing lineup of games:
1. Metal Gear Solid without Kojima
2. Yet another faceless Silent Hill sequel that nobody cares about after cancelling the mildly more interesting Silent Hills
3. Another shit stain, no doubt, in the also creatively bankrupt line of Castlevania entries
4. New shitty sequels of other random Konami IPs that will be collections of current gaming trends in a sad attempt to appease every fan demographic they lost...and miserably failing.
Killer prospects. PR guy talk adds insult to injury for me. Sad sad.
1. Metal Gear Solid without Kojima
2. Yet another faceless Silent Hill sequel that nobody cares about after cancelling the mildly more interesting Silent Hills
3. Another shit stain, no doubt, in the also creatively bankrupt line of Castlevania entries
4. New shitty sequels of other random Konami IPs that will be collections of current gaming trends in a sad attempt to appease every fan demographic they lost...and miserably failing.
Killer prospects. PR guy talk adds insult to injury for me. Sad sad.
Jangowuzhere
Banned
Do you have some odd pent up hate for Kojima?
If you wanna diss the man, fine, but at least make a little bit of sense. P.T. is widely regarded as one of the scariest games of all time. It's not a jump scare fest. It has the creepy subtlety and uncomfortable atmosphere similar to the Silent Hill of the past. Yet, despite P.T. being what it is, you have this odd idea that Silent Hills was just going to be full of jump scares. Where do you get that impression? Is P.T. not good enough evidence? That quote somehow undoes all the goodwill and respect that the Silent Hills teaser earned? How does "pants shitting scary" signify a completely different experience from past games? I would say a lot of people would describe those games as such. Really, that quote means absolutely nothing, you're twisting it unnaturally into a completely unrelated meaning.
He probably just wants another outsourced game from a western studio or unrelated game with the SH name slapped on it in spit of not even taking place there. And yeah, he seems to have a hate boner for Kojima.
One of the reasons people thought Kojima could do justice to SH beaides P.T. was the Paz storyline in MGSV. A completely optional sideops that was one of the better moments in the game.
Muffdraul
Member
I remember a Team Silent interview, possibly from when SH3 was new, where they were questioned about how they approached making the games "scary." In the course of answering they basically said, "We could make our games much, much scarier. It would be easy. But if we did, hardly anybody would want to play them." At the time, I thought "No, no! Fuck the pussies, go all the way!" I never had a problem playing any Silent Hill alone in the dark. I'd get creeped out for sure, but I could easily handle it. Well, P.T. proved their point to me. I couldn't finish that thing. If Silent Hills was going to be at that level, then personally I don't care that it got cancelled. I wouldn't have played much of it anyway.
Thankfully ive found just the man for the job. He will do the series justice because he loves it more than anybody else.
anothertech
Member
Bring back Silent Hills if you're serious.
You're not.
Jangowuzhere
Banned
I know some people here did not like MGSV. After it released, I started to see a lot of bitter resentment aimed at Kojima. I don't think any of it is earned. Hey, you didn't like his last project, so whatever. That doesn't make him completely incompetent at business or a half-assed shitty creator. The guy is one of the gems of the AAA industry. Almost every developer is sticking to a formula and doing the same old shit. Kojima is one of the few trying something new and breaking new ground. The hate he gets is completely unearned in my eyes.
I would have loved to see how Silent Hills turned out. Considering how MGSV and P.T. turned out. It probably would have been the greatest horror game of all time.
Yeah, it's laughable how people act like it'd a bad game or something and not one of the best stealth titles ever created. Sorry the story was just trash instead of bad anime trash. The game definitely had some bloat, overly sparse environments, and a litany of other niggling issues, but it played like a dream. Fuck Kojima. You can make a good MGS based on V without that navel-gazing weirdo.
Shoulda known the Kojima defense force would lay into me, accusing me of shit like "hating Kojima" and wanting more Silent Hill Homecoming/Downpour (like seriously, what?). You can criticize someone and still like them, you know. I hate that I even need to defend myself here, but just to get it out of the way;
I consider MGS1 and MGS3 some of the best games of all time, and among my most memorable gaming experiences. I've put over 120 hours into MGSV and probably will put more even tho the overall game disappointed me, it is in no way shape or form a "bad" game. I support and love narrative gaming, something that Kojima is largely responsible for. I've been disappointed with his last few games (tho I still recognize them as good) so I'm wanting him to wow me now that he's free from MG, I'm hoping Death Stranding does just that.
I do hold him responsible for a lot of what went down at Konami and I wasn't liking his direction with Silent Hill. These are my opinions and I'm entitled to them. They don't mean I hate the guy at all and, to reiterate what I said early, it's silly I have to defend myself from allegations of disliking him and wanting more crappy Silent Hill games.
Christ, guys.
They're too far gone but since people are listing their dream situations:
-Go to Maruyama's door pleading to get him to produce a Suikoden 6
-Snake Eater remake in Fox Engine
-Get Treasure on a Gradius 6 (or Salamander 3/a new Twinbee/a new Parodius)
-Sell of Hudson's old IP to NDCube
-A new Jackal game
-Go to Maruyama's door pleading to get him to produce a Suikoden 6
-Snake Eater remake in Fox Engine
-Get Treasure on a Gradius 6 (or Salamander 3/a new Twinbee/a new Parodius)
-Sell of Hudson's old IP to NDCube
-A new Jackal game
ffejeromdiks
Banned
I'm with you dude, it's disappointing the fanbase is being so childish over this. I was attacked in another thread because I simply said "It could have been Kojimas fault, truth is we'll probably never know" Next thing you know I was committing slander against the man.
But whatever, can't fight the internet hivemind might as well join them right?
Fuck Konami! I'll never play a game made by them even if it's great because reasons!
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
I can't believe people are clamoring for a MGS3 remake. Wouldn't a remake of MG1 and MG2 make much more sense.
shadow_shogun
Member
Seeing the pachinko fox engine ran MGS3 has whet a lot of people's appetite for it. Can't say I blame them.
Jangowuzhere
Banned
I didn't find a logical sense to your statements, so I argued against them. I know this isn't a debate forum, but I can still call stuff when I find it odd or weird. I personally don't care what you think of the man or his work, but sorry, blaming him for a bunch of bullshit we know almost nothing about sticks out as questionable. Sure, maybe you don't hate the guy, but your previous posts come across as just overly bitter without much reason.
If you want to be as faithful as possible to the originals, and I believe most of us would want that, you'd have to remake both MG1 and MG2 as 2D games. Besides, the original MG has aged terribly in comparison with MG2. Nah, I think most of us just want either a current gen port of the series including a PC release or a remake of the Solid games running on Fox Engine with upgraded assets. I'll take something more ambitious, but Konami would be taking the risk of fucking it up.
I'm of the opinion that if they want to do something new they should just take TPP, create a couple of new maps, a bunch of missions and sell it as a sequel. Hell, MGSV is so fun to play that I don't care if they turn MGS into a yearly franchise as long as the maps and missions are competently made. If it's gonna make it easier for them to milk the franchise they could get rid entirely of MB and all the development stuff which was never fun to begin with. Make yearly MGO modes and slap the microtransactions on that. Streamline the SP mode, make it more like GZ to play. Without Kojima I don't even care anymore about the plot. Keep the characters, reboot the story, whatever. Don't take any risks and just do something fun and conventional, or even try to imitate Kojima if you really want to try that, anything as long as you focus on the gameplay. Though if the narrative did feel complete it would certainly be a plus.
The only one I'd want for him to take his time and to give us his vision unadulterated is Kojima.
KingJ2002
Member
Interesting... Konami doesn't have to do much to win back gamers.
Just release these titles in retail:
Metal Gear
Silent Hill
Contra
Castlevania
Dance Dance Revolution
Yo-Gi-Oh
and these titles digitally:
Bomberman
Frogger
Gradius
while publishing new titles... and boom... people will forget and forgive.
Just release these titles in retail:
Metal Gear
Silent Hill
Contra
Castlevania
Dance Dance Revolution
Yo-Gi-Oh
and these titles digitally:
Bomberman
Frogger
Gradius
while publishing new titles... and boom... people will forget and forgive.
LordGorchnik
Member
An actual REAL Suikoden VI would be nice.
Just sayin.
Just sayin.
KnightimeX_Legacy
Banned
Just_myles
Member
yugi-oh phone "AR" game Akin to pokemon go.
Your move Konami, your move.
Your move Konami, your move.
Nope, I have two seperate appointments. One for PES and another one for "New Game Announcement". Truth be told, I'd be mad if it turned out to be just another Yu-Gi-Oh.
The first bullet point could turn out to be a good thing.
Their Gamescom press release talks about Pes and Yu-Gi-Oh. Maybe the new game announcement is really Yu-Gi-Oh.
I just checked some former announcements for Yu-Gi-Oh and found out:
They announced a 3DS-game that's supposed to release in Summer 2016.
They also announced a "Yu-Gi-Oh Online Game" for PC and Consoles that's due to Winter 2016.
(Source (German) )
Fingers crossed none of these are are the actual contents of my second appointment ㅠ_ㅠ I should've asked if it has anything to do with YuGiOh. And I am going to on Monday.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
I just want a new Suikoden and Metal Gear Rising 2 Konami, how hard can it be?
Exactly. Any doubters should watch/play that segment...gave me real SH2 vibes
You've been blaming everything on Kojima and insisting he'd fuck up an entry into franchise that has been utter shit just based on an interview. He wanted it to to be scary and very different from Silent Hill at first, but end as a very Silent Hill game overall. He was going to try something a little different but it was ultimately going to be SH.
Nevermind your insistence of blaming him over the Konami debacle in a thread all about Konami trying to win gamers back. And you're opinions have all just been guesses of what you think happened.
Koutsoubas
Member
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Here's the big thing about Konami, its management has essentially gutted all of their teams and what remains is focused on card games and soccer. They dont have the personnel to make other games, they've created a culture within it that actively discourages people from joining them and they've branched out on more profitable ventures so convincing their shareholders to give gaming a chance again is an uphill battle.
SE had a problem at the very top and they dealt with it and seem to have recovered. This happened because their foundation was pretty strong and was just being used inefficiently. Konami's gaming foundation is jello after having a wrecking ball destroy it and hastily tried to change it into something else.
SE had a problem at the very top and they dealt with it and seem to have recovered. This happened because their foundation was pretty strong and was just being used inefficiently. Konami's gaming foundation is jello after having a wrecking ball destroy it and hastily tried to change it into something else.
shoryukens
Member
I would ask a for a remake of the MGS games but knowing how it went with Silent Hill 2 & 3, I rather not.
decoyplatypus
Member
How is Konami doing generally? Has their decision to pivot away from the enthusiast videogame market hurt anything other than their reputation among enthusiast gamers?
LukasTaves
Member
Personally for me they would win me back by going to the era before kojima was a big name, when they actually released great games, the snes/psone era.
It feels the perfect timing market wise too, with the indie scene being so big these days, so they definitely could pull that off.
It feels the perfect timing market wise too, with the indie scene being so big these days, so they definitely could pull that off.
OnimaruXLR
Member
Is this Ben guy someone who actually knows shit about what may be going on, or just some dude at the Konami US office trying to make people less actively hostile?
Because really, I can empathize with someone trying to weather a tornado of doodoo that you're caught up in because of your employer's actions, but a lot of these claims ring hollow
Because really, I can empathize with someone trying to weather a tornado of doodoo that you're caught up in because of your employer's actions, but a lot of these claims ring hollow
Diddy Kong
Banned
Bomberman or gtfo
RichiRamjag
Member
Because reasons? You make it sound like they haven't earned the negative image. Maybe some of those reasons don't matter to you, but it's shitty of you to come around being oddly dismissive of such opinions. Kojima aside, konami has bungled and mismanaged almost all of their franchises. Seeing the lack of support to MSGV, no, I would not be willing to immediately support that company.
Seriously! I can't think of another game company that has done so much recently to both push away talent and ruin their public image. I mean...remember this nonsense:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/08/03/report-konamis-stifling-workplace.aspx
- The computers in Kojima Productions (now simply known as Number 8 Production Department) are not connected to the internet and can only send messages internally.
- Employees' who leave the office during lunch time are monitored by time cards, and those who take too long have their names announced throughout the company.
- Developers including relatively high-ranking ones who aren't seen as "useful," have been reassigned to jobs such as security guard and to the cleaning staff at one of Konami's health clubs.
- The company once monitored the farewell Facebook post of a soon-to-be-leaving employee who had gotten a job at another company. Any Konami employees who liked the post were reshuffled within the company.
Fuck Konami.
I mean, of course it's possible they can undo the damage they've done and reclaim their original, beloved image but it's going to take more than the empty word of a single social media representative who's job is clearly damage control. He has no idea what's going on in the heads of the ones in charge.