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Love Boat [Mafia] |OT| Till Death Do Us Part
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There's a bit more to note.
kingkitty - goes Blarg - partner Hyperactivity had a vote on Blarg already
gorlak - goes Splinter, then Blarg
kawl_usc - goes Splinter - partner Blarg also went Splinter
boo boo'n - goes Blarg - partner UltraJay switches vote to *Splinter
coppanuva - goes Splinter - partner Flame_AC switches to *Splinter
*splinter - goes Splinter then Blarg
magnumboy20xx - goes Blarg - partner batsnacks votes Blarg
el topo - goes Blarg - partner GiantPanda votes *Splinter after sitting on Gorlak
hobohodo - no vote
We can try to assume a few things about these votes.
1. Why did these players not have a vote on anyone? Blarg was at 14/15 votes, and had already dropped his 2 megaposts, and people had made their rebuttals. For the most part, what was going to be said was already said.
Some of these names line up with the general habit of inactivity they have - hobohodo has barely been active. Kingkitty pops in on occasion, and doesn't get wrapped up in the rapid pace of the thread. El Topo comes off a bit more cautious.
2. Many of these players are 1/2 of the other pair, and I wonder if (combined with inactivity), some of these votes are the other pair catching up. Presumably, ty4on will vouch for hobohodo. Kingkitty is associated with Hyperactivity's very early Blarg vote. Despite Giant Panda looking like he's attracted to voting Town, El Topo voted Blarg. Coppanuva seems to pull his partner Flame_AC to the *Splinter vote. On the other hand, Jay switches to *Splinter after Boo put his vote on Blarg.
3. Two on the list flipped Town, and both teams voted for Blarg (4 votes total), including the player who hammered. This tells me that while the Blarg vote probably had scum, it was not an all-out bus. There's scum on the *Splinter vote.
I am assuming that Topo is Town, because they convinced me that they were chat bombed. I'd also venture to say that Magnum and batsnacks made too goofy of a play to be considered mafia, but who knows. These are merely assumptions.
So we have these four patterns:
In these pairs of players (X, Y), five types of acts took place.
X voted Blarg, then Y joins them (Hyperactivity, Kingkitty) (batsnacks, Magnumboy)
X voted *Splinter, then Y joins them (Coppanuva, Flame_AC) (Blargonaut, Kawl_USC)
X voted *Splinter, then Y voted Blarg (Giant Panda, El Topo)
X voted Blarg, then Y voted *Splinter (Boo Boo'n, UltraJay)
X voted *Splinter, Y votes noone (ty4on, Hobohodo)
So the question is, what seems more suspicious to you?
kingkitty - goes Blarg - partner Hyperactivity had a vote on Blarg already
gorlak - goes Splinter, then Blarg
kawl_usc - goes Splinter - partner Blarg also went Splinter
boo boo'n - goes Blarg - partner UltraJay switches vote to *Splinter
coppanuva - goes Splinter - partner Flame_AC switches to *Splinter
*splinter - goes Splinter then Blarg
magnumboy20xx - goes Blarg - partner batsnacks votes Blarg
el topo - goes Blarg - partner GiantPanda votes *Splinter after sitting on Gorlak
hobohodo - no vote
We can try to assume a few things about these votes.
1. Why did these players not have a vote on anyone? Blarg was at 14/15 votes, and had already dropped his 2 megaposts, and people had made their rebuttals. For the most part, what was going to be said was already said.
Some of these names line up with the general habit of inactivity they have - hobohodo has barely been active. Kingkitty pops in on occasion, and doesn't get wrapped up in the rapid pace of the thread. El Topo comes off a bit more cautious.
2. Many of these players are 1/2 of the other pair, and I wonder if (combined with inactivity), some of these votes are the other pair catching up. Presumably, ty4on will vouch for hobohodo. Kingkitty is associated with Hyperactivity's very early Blarg vote. Despite Giant Panda looking like he's attracted to voting Town, El Topo voted Blarg. Coppanuva seems to pull his partner Flame_AC to the *Splinter vote. On the other hand, Jay switches to *Splinter after Boo put his vote on Blarg.
3. Two on the list flipped Town, and both teams voted for Blarg (4 votes total), including the player who hammered. This tells me that while the Blarg vote probably had scum, it was not an all-out bus. There's scum on the *Splinter vote.
I am assuming that Topo is Town, because they convinced me that they were chat bombed. I'd also venture to say that Magnum and batsnacks made too goofy of a play to be considered mafia, but who knows. These are merely assumptions.
So we have these four patterns:
In these pairs of players (X, Y), five types of acts took place.
X voted Blarg, then Y joins them (Hyperactivity, Kingkitty) (batsnacks, Magnumboy)
X voted *Splinter, then Y joins them (Coppanuva, Flame_AC) (Blargonaut, Kawl_USC)
X voted *Splinter, then Y voted Blarg (Giant Panda, El Topo)
X voted Blarg, then Y voted *Splinter (Boo Boo'n, UltraJay)
X voted *Splinter, Y votes noone (ty4on, Hobohodo)
So the question is, what seems more suspicious to you?
That is quite interesting Kark. One thing to add is Flame and Coppa were very synced. Flame was uncertain at first, but from what I remember Coppa came out of nowhere and suddenly agreed with him. Both of our dead town pairs had some uncertainty with Flux voting Splinter two times and Time never letting go of his Blarg vote and Launch only flirting with an unvote unlike Gorlak who went all out.
Hobo has obviously been busy and was maybe also conflicted. I think I was the biggest proponent of lynching Splinter and I posted a couple of reasons why I thought that in the chat with a big disclaimer at the end that I was really biased. Hobo didn't have much of an opinion of them, but wanted to keep the trackers alive 1 am CET. His post #2760 was after that where he expressed doubt voting for Cabot and Splinter, then town read Flux and nothing until the turbo.
He has been active recently so I hope he posts again in this thread. I was very inactive at first because it felt much less threatening to voice opinions in the boat chat so I can understand why.
Hobo has obviously been busy and was maybe also conflicted. I think I was the biggest proponent of lynching Splinter and I posted a couple of reasons why I thought that in the chat with a big disclaimer at the end that I was really biased. Hobo didn't have much of an opinion of them, but wanted to keep the trackers alive 1 am CET. His post #2760 was after that where he expressed doubt voting for Cabot and Splinter, then town read Flux and nothing until the turbo.
He has been active recently so I hope he posts again in this thread. I was very inactive at first because it felt much less threatening to voice opinions in the boat chat so I can understand why.
Hyperactivity
Banned
sorry KK
Giant Panda
Member
I'll give batsnacks the benefit of the doubt for now that what he did was just another ill-advised gambit. I'm kind of reluctant to vote for an active pair while there are still so many players sneaking through without posting much. But the circumstances around the Blawl vote lead me to believe CoppaFlame is out best bet. Flame had the early vote on Blawl in reaction to Kark's counterclaim, which can be seen as an attempt to get an early bus going for townie cred. But then both Coppa and Flame vote Splintbot pretty late in the process, perhaps when it looks possible that they'll be able to save their partner.
Vote: Flame_ac
Vote: Flame_ac
magnumboy20xx & batsnacks (2)
giant panda
el topo
tl21xx
coppanuva & flame_ac (7)
kyanrute
batsnacks
karkador
zippedpinhead
magnumboy20xx
camjo-z
giant panda
dusk soldier & karu (2)
boo boo'n
ultrajay
kingkitty & hyperactivity (1)
ty4on
hobohodo & ty4on (1)
kingkitty
11 Votes for Majority
el topo
tl21xx
coppanuva & flame_ac (7)
kyanrute
batsnacks
karkador
zippedpinhead
magnumboy20xx
camjo-z
giant panda
dusk soldier & karu (2)
boo boo'n
ultrajay
kingkitty & hyperactivity (1)
ty4on
hobohodo & ty4on (1)
kingkitty
11 Votes for Majority
Been horribly busy, but I've seen multiple bring this up.
I voted on Blarg/Kawl based on Kark's claim which I still fully believe. Once Kark decided to switch to Splinter, I attempted to get some assurances from both pairs, only slightly successfully though. Once I got these assurances and felt confident that there was a legitimate chance of flipping someone who I viewed as having very scum like behavior, then I switched. Coppa and I's posting together happened to link up on that day, and so he and I just happened to vote close together. I had been considering Splinter since the first rumblings of that as an idea cropped up.
I think that this lynch is going to be another major blow to town. Each day/night we've lost very active posters, and now you all are going to do the mafia's work for them and take out another fairly active voice. Just imagine what it'll be like tomorrow, assuming there's a kill. Pretty soon it's just going to be the inactives and the game's pace will slow to a crawl.
What were you discussing in the chat?
Coppa and I don't have a chat to use.
What do you mean?
...Not exactly how I was hoping this would come out, but too late to go back on it now.
We don't have a chat.
...And? Flux said he was a cop on D1. He wasn't.
Yeah, because I totally wanted to reveal that on Day 2. There's a reason I said Coppa and I like to keep our game discussion in the thread.
I thought you were going to reveal you were chat blocked, but I was talking about D2.
No chat, period.
Did any of you ever breadcrumb it?
I didn't. Personally I saw the lack of a chat with flame as something that you all would jump on us for.
Multiple people did point out that it seemed like we weren't communicating however. Though we did say we preferred to throw our ideas out here and post them, which is a bit of a hint there.
I personally saw it as something that people would latch onto us and use against us. There's also the fact it tells scum something is up with us, and would make us a target there too. Not worth it.
Also it's kinda hard for me to know if flame wanted it out there or not given that we couldn't talk.
One of us has the option to deliver a command one night, the other has it deliver it the next. Kark and Zipped had the same thing.
Kark and zipped.... what?
i think in kark and zipped's chat bomb thing, it was RNG on who would get the chance to submit their night action
...what?
How do you know that?
karkendoor said that themselves
...How does that not sound like RNG to you? "Kark was the one gifted." Yes it's possible one of them was chosen to do it by some game mechanic, but right now I don't think it's a huge jump to call that RNG.
thats rng
magnumboy20xx & batsnacks (1)
giant panda
el topo
tl21xx
coppanuva & flame_ac (8)
kyanrute
batsnacks
karkador
zippedpinhead
magnumboy20xx
camjo-z
giant panda
tl21xx
dusk soldier & karu (2)
boo boo'n
ultrajay
kingkitty & hyperactivity (1)
ty4on
hobohodo & ty4on (1)
kingkitty
ultrajay & boo boo'n (1)
coppanuva
11 Votes for Majority
el topo
coppanuva & flame_ac (8)
kyanrute
batsnacks
karkador
zippedpinhead
magnumboy20xx
camjo-z
giant panda
tl21xx
dusk soldier & karu (2)
boo boo'n
ultrajay
kingkitty & hyperactivity (1)
ty4on
hobohodo & ty4on (1)
kingkitty
ultrajay & boo boo'n (1)
coppanuva
11 Votes for Majority