tass0 said:Even Uncharted 2 and MGS4 are hated on here, even if the majority of the community voted them for GOTY!
Uncharted 2 isn't hated at all.
tass0 said:Even Uncharted 2 and MGS4 are hated on here, even if the majority of the community voted them for GOTY!
toasty_T said:I wouldn't mind seeing the rest of your top 5 as I'm struggling to rationalize how someone could of this game as anything above just good.
Not the most provocative list aside from FFXIII although I'm not surprised that I'm at odds with someone who prefers MGS2 to it's superior sequel.Stumpokapow said:They were MGS2, Valkyria Chronicles, Resident Evil 2, and Mega Man X.
cosmicblizzard said:It actually seems like fans of XIII are generally not fans of XII and vice versa. Makes sense since they're polar opposites.
cosmicblizzard said:It actually seems like fans of XIII are generally not fans of XII and vice versa. Makes sense since they're polar opposites.
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Ledsen said:So does anyone actually like this game BEFORE you get to Gran Pulse and gain complete control of your characters and some amount of freedom?
ZephyrFate said:shit story... but better than FFXII.
Ledsen said:So does anyone actually like this game BEFORE you get to Gran Pulse and gain complete control of your characters and some amount of freedom?
Someone hasn't played Star Ocean 4atbigelow said:I had absolutely no preconceived notions of what the game was like prior to buying it. I had seen the reveal trailer and that was pretty much it. I bought it and dove right in with a fresh and clear head.
And this game had the absolute worst storytelling of any big-name RPG I've ever played. Right off the bat they throw around so many in-game names that you are just lost in a bunch of bizarre patterns (Cie this, cie that). To make any sense of what these people are talking about, you have to read an in-game encyclopedia. That's right: to try and cover the amateur story and script writing, they had to include an encyclopedia to try and cover their asses.
This giant gaping hole of suck continued to siphon out all the excitement I started with. I didn't care for these characters. They were written so you can "understand their plight" after 20 hours of drinking glass shards.
The game had some fun gameplay ideas that are handled far better in other games. Its technical merits are the only merits it deserves. A very pretty game but a hollow one.
The_Technomancer said:Someone hasn't played Star Ocean 4
duckroll said:...Every part of the game is pretty well designed to showcase the various systems of the game and the challenge before you get a full party is that each chapter is designed to force the player to figure out how to best make use of the limited roles the fixed character parties have available to overcome the dungeon... Freedom is a part of design and giving a player more or less freedom is not inherently better or worse.
I like XII International and XIII, they are both enjoyable for different reasons.cosmicblizzard said:It actually seems like fans of XIII are generally not fans of XII and vice versa. Makes sense since they're polar opposites.
Ledsen said:So does anyone actually like this game BEFORE you get to Gran Pulse and gain complete control of your characters and some amount of freedom? A lot of people are talking about hunting and farming and stuff, but since that's so far into the game, I'm assuming people who like it must've also enjoyed the 20 hours before that? I'm trying to gauge if there's any point in me continuing to play the game. I've played for about 12 hours, and so far everything about the game is horrible to me. The battle system has a lot of potential and COULD be fun, but since I'm never free to choose characters or have a full party it consists of nothing more than spamming A until I have to heal. If I have to play until Gran Pulse before it gets better, I'll simply put the game away and never play it again. If it gets better before that, please explain how. I'm genuinely interested in hearing if anyone likes this first section of the game, and if so, why.
I actually kind of like Nautilus.cosmicblizzard said:I actually like the first half more. Chapter 8 is my favorite chapter. Of course I loved it from chapter 3 and on, so I doubt your opinion will change.
_tetsuo_ said:I couldn't get past the 20 hour tutorial section.
fixed.TheVisualizer said:everything is better
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BocoDragon said:Ermac = Error Machine
duckroll said:Sure. I liked the game about as much before chapter 11 as I did after chapter 11. The gameplay is largely the same, the only difference being what characters you can use in your party and hence what roles you have available. Every part of the game is pretty well designed to showcase the various systems of the game and the challenge before you get a full party is that each chapter is designed to force the player to figure out how to best make use of the limited roles the fixed character parties have available to overcome the dungeon.
If the core gameplay mechanics are fun and balanced, I don't see why it makes any difference as to how much freedom the player has. Freedom is a part of design and giving a player more or less freedom is not inherently better or worse.
ultron87 said:I guess I missed the survey of gamers everywhere where FFXIII officially got its "hated" status.
BocoDragon said:Ermac = Error Machine
Thank God it's miles ahead of its predecessor, but I'm glad you had to seek out my post like some stalker.Fimbulvetr said:Not really.... or at all.
Anyway. My relationship with XIII is weird.
I started off massively hating it for the pre pulse chapters(disappointed etc.etc.), then I thought it was okay for some of pulse, then I realized that a good chunk of the hunting missions were extremely half-assed and now I think the game is just mediocre.
So does anyone actually like this game BEFORE you get to Gran Pulse and gain complete control of your characters and some amount of freedom?
ZephyrFate said:Thank God it's miles ahead of its predecessor, but I'm glad you had to seek out my post like some stalker.
When you can actually form any argument worth a damn, believe me, I'll match you.Fimbulvetr said:Oh joyous. Your usual <make assertion> <get called out on assertion> <act nonchalant because you can't form arguments> defense.
ZephyrFate said:When you can actually form any argument worth a damn, believe me, I'll match you.
XII has a generic Star Wars plot layout with pretentious faux-British voice acting and dialogue, that goes wildly off-base halfway through due to its sick director. Many of the characters are totally extraneous to its plot.Fimbulvetr said:Then why don't you go ahead?
Why is FFXIII's story better than XII's?
ZephyrFate said:XII has a generic Star Wars plot layout with pretentious faux-British voice acting and dialogue, that goes wildly off-base halfway through due to its sick director. Many of the characters are totally extraneous to its plot.
FFXIII, for as shitty as it is, has at least some focus.
I think Zephyr has me on ignore, but whatever.ZephyrFate said:XII has a generic Star Wars plot layout with pretentious faux-British voice acting and dialogue, that goes wildly off-base halfway through due to its sick director. Many of the characters are totally extraneous to its plot.
FFXIII, for as shitty as it is, has at least some focus.
The similarities to starwars are cosmetic at best, XII uses it's themes and tropes in a way that greatly differentiates itself from the original trilogy.ZephyrFate said:XII has a generic Star Wars plot layout
ZephyrFate said:with pretentious faux-British voice acting and dialogue
As opposed to XIII which goes nowhere because it's writer just sucks.ZephyrFate said:that goes wildly off-base halfway through due to its sick director.
Yes, as opposed to XIII which treats most it's "characters" like tools to be immediately ignored after use.ZephyrFate said:Many of the characters are totally extraneous to its plot.
Yup, I'll chime in appropriately when I'm home later. On my phone at the moment, lolJerk 2.0 said:Magnus, you may need to offer more of an opinion in order to avoid a ban.
And Rax's post is spot on.
The_Technomancer said:Someone hasn't played Star Ocean 4