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Mafia 3 Reveal Trailer (Hangar 13/Take-Two, 2016, PC/PS4/XB1)

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hydruxo

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freshVeggie said:
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Looks very action-ey.
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Looks fun to me.
 
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Paskil

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I think the game looks pretty interesting. As someone that hasn't played the previous Mafia games, willing to give this a shot. Also, this thread is amazing.
 
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besada

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antonz said:
There was/is an Italian Mob Family in the New Orleans area during this time period. The question is does the game deal with the Matranga family or not
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FadedRevolution said:
You know we have this thing called the Internet where we could look up this information instead of spouting uninformed bullshit.
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It's particularly surprising because, historically, the late sixties and early seventies is exactly when black organized crime families began sprouting, as they took the drug trade away from Italian families. This time period had an explosion of black organized crime families, including Nicky Barnes's The Council, and Frank Lucas's drug empire. You've got the Philly Black Mafia taking over in their area, and out on the west coast, you have the 69 Mob run by Felix Mitchell fighting with Funktown USA over control of the heroin market.

There are a ton of great organized crime stories that have never been told, in part because of people who have been confused into thinking the Italian families were somehow unique or special, largely due to how these figures have been mythologized by filmmakers.
 
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TheLegendary

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jmood88 said:
There are clear and obvious connotations because popular culture only presents one aspect, which is the only reason why you and others would find something like this to not match up with the mafia oeuvre. As for the series, there have been two games, neither of which featured you playing as the same character or during the same time period, so there should be no expectation of things being the same in the next game in the series.
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I agree with your first statement. The perspective I'm providing is based on what I expect to see out of a pop culture depiction of the Mafia (which this is), as well as what I personally took to be one of the core components of the previous games in the series. I guess the fact that they're subverting that is a good thing. I'm a big organized crime snob (both real historical accounts and the pop culture romanticized depictions) so I recognize the distinction. However even being fairly knowledgeable about the subject I still consider the word Mafia to relate to the Italian mob.
MHWilliams said:
As I pointed out previously, the issue then is your concept of Mafia as a series. The owner seems to disagree with you. They believe as others have pointed out that "mafia" stands as a general term for organized crime. As such, they're expanding beyond Cosa Nostra for the lead characters of this game. Despite that, Cosa Nostra still plays a very big part in the game, something you'd have to work very hard to ignore. It also carries similar themes and characters from previous titles in the series forward.

Halo has moved beyond telling just the story of the Master Chief killing the Covenant on Halo rings. Series can and do evolve and play around within their constraints.

Essentially, we're arguing that you have to have such a narrow interpretation of the term "Mafia" and series in order to disregard this game. It's limiting at best.
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Fair enough, well said. Although I disagree with the use of the word, my opinion doesn't make it fact and I'm not the foremost expert on the subject. I'm looking forward to the game.
 
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Salsa

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besada said:
It's particularly surprising because, historically, the late sixties and early seventies is exactly when black organized crime families began sprouting, as they took the drug trade away from Italian families. This time period had an explosion of black organized crime families, including Nicky Barnes's The Council, and Frank Lucas's drug empire. You've got the Philly Black Mafia taking over in their area, and out on the west coast, you have the 69 Mob run by Felix Mitchell fighting with Funktown USA over control of the heroin market.

There are a ton of great organized crime stories that have never been told, in part because of people who have been confused into thinking the Italian families were somehow unique or special, largely due to how these figures have been mythologized by filmmakers.
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I wonder if it's the blacks takin away the drug trade from the italians considering Vito's your buddy
 
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PHOENIXZERO

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LOL at the comments on Youtube bitching about the protagonist being black and how because of it this isn't a "real Mafia game" but some politically correct game or whatever.
 
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besada

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SalsaShark said:
I wonder if it's the blacks takin away the drug trade from the italians considering Vito's your buddy
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It would certainly have a historical precedent. It was during the early seventies that so much of the drug trade was taken from the Italian families, and in urban areas it was almost always taken by black organized crime groups.
Vulcano's assistant said:
This better be a game where you will be able to shoot an alligator in the head with a 44 magnum.
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I'm looking forward to the easy body disposal of the bayou.
 
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grandwizard

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TheLegendary said:
This is nothing like this.

The game is called Mafia. There are clear and obvious connotations associated with the word. It doesn't mean black people don't have ties to the Mafia, but by its most widely and generally accepted definition, the Mafia refers to the Italian mob.

Even if you want to ignore the title of the game itself or argue that it's more generally used and doesn't relate only to Italians, there's still the history of the previous games to consider. All of the previous games focused predominantly on the Italan mob, so there's an expectation that this one would too . The name GTA never had any such connotations. Games took place in london, new york, etc and always have had multiple different organized crime groups. All before San Andreas came out. People complaining about that are entirely different

Expecting a game called Mafia, in which the two previous games were about the Mafia to have an predominantly Italian cast doesnt make you racist, and it doesn't mean you can't relate to the new main character. I find the new character's story and the themes they're presenting in the trailer much more relatable than anything in the previous games. But, it's like when Hitman games turned into a mindless third person shooter; based on the previous games in the series you have an expectation of what the next game will provide. Some people weren't happy when Absolution didn't line up with their expectations of the series. That's what I'm seeing here.

I absolutely love love love (repeated for emphasis) the concept of what they showed in the trailer. I just dont love it as a game in the Mafia series.
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The Italian Mafia is in the game. They are the bad guys (like they are in real life and not nerd power fantasies).
 
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levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
I can't believe we're having another san andreas shitfest in 2015. Way to go totally not racist people with very specific preferences.
 
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JDSN

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PHOENIXZERO said:
LOL at the comments on Youtube bitching about the protagonist being black and how because of it this isn't a "real Mafia game" but some politically correct game or whatever.
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Black man in an american media product being a gangster= Obvious PC police behind it.
 
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Deleted member 471617

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Watched the trailer and all four of those videos that contain gameplay in it. Game is looking very good and in regards to the story and main character, im actually looking forward to how it plays out. In the videos, they do say that the Italians turn on you but I would have done a swerve in which the black woman turns on you to where it's you and Italians against the black woman's gang. Could have had it to where she doesn't want to be connected to the Italians and whatnot. Either way, Mafia III is on my 2016 list and im looking forward to seeing how the story and characters all play out.
 
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DC1

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Black Republican said:
i want the media to romanticize the black mafia, everyone loves the mafia
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Muha...mmhahaha!


If the progressive black movement from 1958 through 1978 is ever romanticized in the media I'll attempt a run at transracialism; targeting mixed Scottish emigrant by way of Botswana.
 
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Daingurse

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The black mafia is a nice change of pace, and I love Italian mob stuff quite a bit. I can't think of a game where you are a member of the black mafia, just gang banging. Wasn't really interesting in this before the reveal, but now I'm intrigued.
 
captainnapalm

captainnapalm

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Cautiously optimistic. It seems like the game might be gunning for some of that GTA money, and I'm not really interested in seeing the Mafia series become an inferior GTA clone.

I also love the classic Italian mob and I don't think there's anything wrong with being biased towards it - particularly in the context of the series in question. I mean it would have been a definite purchase for me if this was like an updated Mafia 2. It isn't, but the time period and setting is potentially interesting and I'll keep an eye on it.

If they're truly doing something fresh and interesting I'll get it for sure.
 
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Hollabootsey

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Frog-fu said:
The term mafia hasn't exclusively referred to Italian organised crime for decades. Any criminal enterprise large enough can be one. There are Russian mafias, Chinese mafias, and so and so forth, and just as the term itself has broadened, there is no reason the franchise can't. If 2K wants to diversify, then let them. More power to them.
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Well said and the creative director in the IGN video even said they wanted to reclaim the word mafia to reflect the reality you speak about.
 
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The Albatross

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freshVeggie said:
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Looks very action-ey.
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Guess they're movin away from the realism-angle of the other ones... That... t-bone to explosion to flip is pretty insane.

Black Republican said:
Mafia 3 Reveal thread gets 8 (100 post per page) pages already compared to 13 for Mafia 2 OT

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=404999 (lol snoop)

congrats 2K you've succeeded
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Dunno if page count on gaf from 5 years ago can really be compared to today. The biggest games of the year got 20 page threads back then, while a 3minute gameplay clip of Scalebound posted 24 hours ago already has 35+ pages.

Also somehow this thread is going to turn into a Europeans vs. Svart Pete thread. That ain't 2K.
 
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Rastafarian42

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Excellent trailer love the fact that they're dealing with the racism in that era and all the other social issues prevalent in the south.
 
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Opto

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seriously though, I wouldn't put Mafia 3 on my radar if it didn't have a black protagonist.

I'm sure someone will call me racist for that :|
 
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demolitio

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I hope they tone down the exploding cars. That will get annoying coming from the other Mafia games. I miss having to watch my speed due the cops but I doubt that's in this by the looks of it.
 
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JDSN

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dr3upmushroom said:
why do people bring up the term "relate" when talking about these mass-murder simulators?
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Its a meme, basically people are mocking the idea that fans of fictions have no trouble putting themselves in the show of blue tall aliens, green slobs, aluminum AI but when its time to get into the shoes of an asian space bounty hunter people have issues. Its the reason why Jesus is white and its the reason why even a movie about an historical event triggered mostly by black transexuals needs a white gay protagonist to be made.
 
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lambchops

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people forget about Ellsworth "Bumpy" Johnson, and queen Madame Stephanie St. Clair! who ran Harlem! Also we had the black Mafia family out of Detroit with a hub in Atlanta. Detroit also had young boys inc. Mafia is just organized crime syndicates nothing more. Now Cosa Nostra is the Italian mob.
 
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User 73706

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Lukas Japonicus said:
I'm the last person on Earth to complain about videogame violence, but this just seems totally unnecessary.
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Yeah, I don't know what it is, but there's something... dehumanizing about it. Haven't really seen over-the-top violence like this since Jax's fatalities in MKX, Franklin punching civilians in the face and Johnson popping those infection forms in Halo CE's flood reveal moment.
 
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