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MCV UK: PS4 best selling home console in 2013

Baki

Member
Seriously? The 360 has been out since 2005. It's been around 7 to 8 years on the market. How does that make it even remotely comparable to a hot new product that has just come out?

Highest selling home console after 4.5 weeks (even after being supply constrained). That's pretty damn impressive.
 

Jack cw

Member
I am pretty sure he means the LTD sales of X360/PS3.

X360 already topped Wii in UK and became the 2nd best selling home console ever in UK followed by Wii.

Thats exactly what the graphs are showing, but the gap between Wii, PS3 and 360 is rather small, its pretty equally splitted.
 

Dunlop

Member
Impressive

I was hoping ms would keep its strongholds for competition purposes.I really do not want Sony to dominate everywhere, neck and neck like last gen was great for consumers
 
Well, both PS4 and PSV belong to Playstation family. How come gamers are so eager to have PS4, but ignore PSV considering both are the most powerful machine in their category?

PSV really deserves much better sales...

Because one is a home console, at a decent price, with a bright future in terms of 3rd party support (in all genres) and one is an (overpriced) handheld which has been struggling for the past years?
 

zhao3gold

Banned
The fact is US and UK are more price-sensitive than brand loyalty and unfortunately, MS used to be strong in these 2 markets. Now it will step by step turn towards to Sony as PS4 enjoy 100USD price advantage.

The other markets like mainland Europe and Japan are more brand loyalty than price-sensitive and they are owned by Sony. This is a huge advantage for Sony.

Overall, MS has no chance to beat Sony in the new gen. The only thing they can do is to occupy the market share as much as they can.

If we don't count Wii U, then if X1 can have 35% market share, then it would be acceptable for MS.

There is nothing more MS can do....
 

Mung

Member
Seriously? The 360 has been out since 2005. It's been around 7 to 8 years on the market. How does that make it even remotely comparable to a hot new product that has just come out?

It outsold it despite only being out for about 9% of the duration, and whilst being supply constrained. And in a country that was heavily xbox in the previous gen. Impressive.

edit: beated
 

test_account

XP-39C²
Dont want to be the smartass here, but PS3 is pretty close in the UK. The gap is not as big as many think., its actually pretty close.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/events/130612/img/10l.jpg
Thanks for the graph, but i think its kinda hard to see how big of a difference there is. The difference in percentage might not look that small, but i believe that the Xbox 360 installbase is somewhere around 1 million units bigger than the PS3 installbase, but i could be wrong.
 
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Jack cw

Member
Thanks for the graph, but i think its kinda hard to see how big of a difference there is. The difference in percentage might not look that small, but i believe that the Xbox 360 installbase is somewhere around 1 million units bigger than the PS3 installbase, but i could be wrong.

Should be somewhere around that, yes. But in terms of marketshare, 1 million behind is still negliable, its not a huge leader there compared to Sony with PS2.
 

zhao3gold

Banned
Because one is a home console, at a decent price, with a bright future in terms of 3rd party support (in all genres) and one is an (overpriced) handheld which has been struggling for the past years?

Are you sure? I still remember when Sony announced the price of PSV in E3, everybody was happy and satisfied.... Many people said PSV will destroy 3DS...
 

Mael

Member
I think it's because the 3DS is predominantly purchased for little 'uns that don't get new games outside of xmas and birthdays. Bravely Default didn't even make the 3DS specific top 10 after the first week IIRC.

I wouldn't blame the market for Bravely Default's performance.
Seriously the game is nowhere to be found in this part of Europe....and we're usually well supplied in these kind of titles...
Seriously I don't know what Nintendo (wiki says they publish here) expected but there's clearly a problem of supply with this game.
 

le.phat

Member
Impressive

I was hoping ms would keep its strongholds for competition purposes.I really do not want Sony to dominate everywhere, neck and neck like last gen was great for consumers

Sales parity had fuck all to do with compition. Better yet, the bigger the gap, the harder MS will work for it.
 

zhao3gold

Banned
Should be somewhere around that, yes. But in terms of marketshare, 1 million behind is still negliable, its not a huge leader there compared to Sony with PS2.

I know Chartz is banned here. But it shows the gap between PS3 and X360 is about 3 millions. I don't think Chartz can make such huge mistake in the LTD sales...
 

IvorB

Member
Seriously? The 360 has been out since 2005. It's been around 7 to 8 years on the market. How does that make it even remotely comparable to a hot new product that has just come out?

I don't think the new iPad outsells the previous model's whole year amount in four weeks. This is impressive no matter which way you try to spin it.
 
Dont want to be the smartass here, but PS3 is pretty close in the UK. The gap is not as big as many think., its actually pretty close.
10l.jpg

What are the latest LTD sales for PS3 in the UK?

We know the 360 was close to/or surpassed 8m at last count. Wasn't the PS3 at 5m or thereabouts at last count?


Anyway. Very impressive performance from the PS4, but it's not too surprising. Hardware and software were on a downward trend here for some time...
 

Jack cw

Member
I know Chartz is banned here. But it shows the gap between PS3 and X360 is about 3 millions. I don't think Chartz can make such huge mistake in the LTD sales...

We do not know. Nintendos charts are the only thing thats credible, so the gap could be anything from 800k - 3million. We'll never know. I just wanted to show that PS3 wasnt so bad and it was a tight race until the end. Nothing more. Ps4 on the other hand is looking like the PS2 right now.
 

Into

Member
Seriously? The 360 has been out since 2005. It's been around 7 to 8 years on the market. How does that make it even remotely comparable to a hot new product that has just come out?

The 360 is easily available, has a far larger library of games, including mega hit GTA5 that came out just a few months ago, 12 months of being on the shelves and is the most popular home console in the UK for the past 4 or so years. This is against a product that is not easily available, has a small selection of games, is more expensive and was available for barely 5 weeks.

The 360 never outsold PS2 yearly sales when it came out, neither did the Wii or PS3.

You need to look at all the factors, not cherry pick and choose
 
Jeez... my memory might be bad because I remember a lot of people were quite happy.....

Jeez, my memory might be bad because I remember a lot of people saying how the Wii U was going to be okay...
Sorry, but the price reveal was seen by many as one of the first nails in the coffin of the Vita.
 

SmokyDave

Member
I wouldn't blame the market for Bravely Default's performance.
Seriously the game is nowhere to be found in this part of Europe....and we're usually well supplied in these kind of titles...
Seriously I don't know what Nintendo (wiki says they publish here) expected but there's clearly a problem of supply with this game.
Doesn't seem like it here in the UK. A quick check on the Argos website shows that all the stores near me have the title in stock (and they aren't even a specialist retailer).
 

zhao3gold

Banned
As a Xbox fan, so sad to see so many people here are making jokes on Xbox One and Xbox 360 which are my preferred consoles...
 

Tobor

Member
I know Chartz is banned here. But it shows the gap between PS3 and X360 is about 3 millions. I don't think Chartz can make such huge mistake in the LTD sales...

You know it's banned, and then post their garbage anyway?

Don't bring up their fake made up numbers for any reason. Just don't do it.
 

Mung

Member
Yeah, it was actually the opposite. When everyone saw the price, the hyped died down.

That isn't true at all. When Kaz announced the Vita price, there was a big round of applause. Most people expected it to be much more - the price of the 3ds was terrible then. After the 3ds price cut, things changed completely.
 

Mael

Member
Doesn't seem like it here in the UK. A quick check on the Argos website shows that all the stores near me have the title in stock (and they aren't even a specialist retailer).

Then why the fuck did NoE decide to supply UK instead of here?
Fucking morons!
Seriously Amazon doesn't have it, FNAC is not supplied and even Micromania can't seem to get a copy!
Someone fucked up in the copy allocation.

Seriously you want a copy in France you either import or deal with overpriced shop where it's already 60€!
Everyone else is out of stock apparently
 

bombshell

Member
No, I'm fairly confident that everyone was very impressed and pleased with the Vita price when it was announced. Everyone was expecting a much higher price.

You're right, but then everyone learned about the overpriced memory cards some time later...
 
I am shocked and amazed that a long awaited new piece of hardware outsold a nearly 8yr old piece of hardware.

All hyperbole aside, Sony is really killing it with the sales figures.
 

Steroyd

Member
Impressive

I was hoping ms would keep its strongholds for competition purposes.I really do not want Sony to dominate everywhere, neck and neck like last gen was great for consumers

Was it really? The generation lasted so long sales declined the hunger for next gen is at stupid levels and too many timed, content exclusive and monetizatizing bullshit, plus Microsoft were at their best when Sony's dominance was a threat back in 2005 when MS was busting out betraylaton after betraylaton while busting out varied games from COD to Kameo to Blue Dragon compared to now which they Er...
 
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