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[ioi]

I've read reports that stocks on all of the generations games are running low in the run up to golden week.

Interesting. This is the thing you see, if stocks are plentiful there will be another decent boost (AC>100k, BT2>100k) over golden week, which will once again bump these titles (and DSL hardware) up.

If there are shortages as you are saying then this would again mean Nintendo not capitalising on sales like they could have done (although it may keep demand high again for a few more weeks after that). Factor in some nice boosts due to Tetris, NSMB, possibly the language games coming up (we know that strong new software releases tend to bump-up the old software) and you have to say that the 50-100k numbers for these top DS games should continue for a while yet.

 

[Oblivion]

Well, at least Xbox 360's numbers tell us how many Westerners are living in Japan.

:lol Nice.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

I demand different charts for games and non-games. When I saw ioi post with Thai dic shit, Korea dic shit and China dic shit, I already knew I had to say this.

Different charts please.



Reason: sales charts are boring now. yep, they are.

 

[duckroll]

I demand different charts for games and non-games. When I saw ioi post with Thai dic shit, Korea dic shit and China dic shit, I already knew I had to say this.

Different charts please.

Don't worry, I doubt they'll do as well as Brain Training. Maybe Korea. But that's about it.

 

[E-phonk]

Also, make different ones for sport and square-enix games plzkthnx!!

 

[ioi]

Is Japan in the mood for more Fushigi no Dungeons? They just had Pokemon, which was actually a combined million seller.

I assume Yangus is replacing Torneko? (I don't know much about DQ so fill me in)

Agreed, I'm not completely up to date on what Yangus is myself, just another DQ Mysterious Dungeon game basically??

Past installments of Toruneko have done week one:

Torunekos Mysterious Dungeon 2 PS 358k (580k total)
Torunekos Mysterious Dungeon 3 PS2 303k (540k total)

http://everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg/japwk.php?week=1&publisher=Chun%20Soft

With a drop-off from 2 to 3 and with the series generally dropping away plus PS2 sales starting to slow then I think 250k will be about the most we can expect (also if the game is more of a spin-off and not by Chun Soft then presumably this will mean lower expectations as well).


For Mother, we have the remakes (which you have to assume a brand new version that has been anticipated for 10 years can at least double) and we also have Mother 2 on the SNES:

Mother 2 SNES 465k (840k total)
Mother 1&2 GBA 170k (370k total)

http://everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg/japcomp.php?name1=Mother+2&name2=Mother+1+%2B+2

Now whether Mother 3 can match 2 will have to be seen, it has the hype and anticipation but 2 was arguably released at a better time on the SNES in terms of sales potential. Will be very interesting. You can see that Mother games tend to be un-Nintendo like in that they drop away quite fast, so first week will be important.

 

[Mr Toast]

Easter is this weekend, yes?

 

[ioi]

I demand different charts for games and non-games. When I saw ioi post with Thai dic shit, Korea dic shit and China dic shit, I already knew I had to say this.

Different charts please.



Reason: sales charts are boring now. yep, they are.

Haha, well I actually think people are overlooking these language games. They won't do BT levels sure, but they should do ok.

 

[neondriver]

I demand different charts for games and non-games. When I saw ioi post with Thai dic shit, Korea dic shit and China dic shit, I already knew I had to say this.

And who defines which games are non-games?

 

[lancubap]

Where are the Hardware estimations for this week ?

 

[lochnesssnowman]

And who defines which games are non-games?

Disgruntled PSP fans of course (I jest)

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

And who defines which games are non-games?

Games that stay in the top10 for so long that it becomes boring to see them there

 

[ioi]

Games that stay in the top10 for so long that it becomes boring to see them there

But how depressing would the chart be without those games:

1. (PS2, Konami) Pro Baseball Spirits 3 - 69,000
2. (PS2, Namco) Pro Baseball Hot Star 2006 - 52,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
4. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
5. (PS2, Sega) Pro Soccer wo Tsukurou European Championship - 23,000 / 173,000
6. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000


It does raise an interesting point that has been made a few times really that in any normal year on any normal system the legs of MK DS would be seen as pretty phenomenal.

 

[Jonnyram]

Can we have a different chart for games that I own please?
Thanks!

 

[ioi]

Can we have a different chart for games that I own please?
Thanks!

No, how about we all have seperate charts with just the games we like :lol



By the way, the full numbers are up now:

11. ACE 2
12. Pro Baseball PSP
13. Black
14. Brain Flex
15. COM (woah!!)
16. Ace Combat
17. Disaster Report 2
18. Tamogotchi
19. Eyeshield 21 GBA
20. Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires
21. Daredemo Asobi Taisen
22. Monster Hunter Portable
23. Naruto Portable
24. Pachislot Game
25. Samaurai Warriors 2
26. Crayon Shin Chan
27. San X Land
28. Kerokero Gunso
29. New PSP game
30. New PSP game

Tenchu? Xenosaga? Contact?

 

[SpoonyBard]

And who defines which games are non-games?

That would be me.

Puzzle games are non-games, if I want puzzles I fill soduko puzzles on newspapers.
MMORPG's are non-games because they are just chat programs for people with no lifes.
Sports game are non-games because they just simulate real sports.
Sports manager games are definitely non-games, they just give you statistics and random crap.
Pet simulators are non games, buy a real pet asshole.
Car simulators are non-games, buy a real car idiot.
RPG's are non-games, they are just interactive movies.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Can we have a different chart for games that I own please?
Thanks!

No, but you can have one with titles starting with Ñ :x

Oh, and we would need one with a different unit count, lets say with pikmins. Red Pikmin = 1 thousand units

 

[duckroll]

But how depressing would the chart be without those games:

1. (PS2, Konami) Pro Baseball Spirits 3 - 69,000
2. (PS2, Namco) Pro Baseball Hot Star 2006 - 52,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
4. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
5. (PS2, Sega) Pro Soccer wo Tsukurou European Championship - 23,000 / 173,000
6. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000


It does raise an interesting point that has been made a few times really that in any normal year on any normal system the legs of MK DS would be seen as pretty phenomenal.

Correction:

1. (PS2, Konami) Pro Baseball Spirits 3 - 69,000
2. (PS2, Namco) Pro Baseball Hot Star 2006 - 52,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
4. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
5. (PS2, Sega) Pro Soccer wo Tsukurou European Championship - 23,000 / 173,000
6. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000
7. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2
8. (PSP, Konami) Pro Baseball Portable
9. (PS2, EA) Black
10. (DS, Nintendo) Yawaraka Atama Juku

Oh wait, that last one is a non-game!

1. (PS2, Konami) Pro Baseball Spirits 3 - 69,000
2. (PS2, Namco) Pro Baseball Hot Star 2006 - 52,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
4. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
5. (PS2, Sega) Pro Soccer wo Tsukurou European Championship - 23,000 / 173,000
6. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000
7. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2
8. (PSP, Konami) Pro Baseball Portable
9. (PS2, EA) Black
10. (DS, Square Enix) Seiken DS Children of Mana


There... not much better.

 

[ioi]

Correction:
1. (PS2, Konami) Pro Baseball Spirits 3 - 69,000
2. (PS2, Namco) Pro Baseball Hot Star 2006 - 52,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
4. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
5. (PS2, Sega) Pro Soccer wo Tsukurou European Championship - 23,000 / 173,000
6. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000
7. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2
8. (PSP, Konami) Pro Baseball Portable
9. (PS2, EA) Black
10. (DS, Square Enix) Seiken DS Children of Mana
There... not much better.

1. (PS2, Konami) Pro Baseball Spirits 3 - 69,000
2. (PS2, Namco) Pro Baseball Hot Star 2006 - 52,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
4. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
5. (PS2, Sega) Pro Soccer wo Tsukurou European Championship - 23,000 / 173,000
6. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000
7. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2 (around 20k)
8. (PSP, Konami) Pro Baseball Portable (15-20k)
9. (PS2, EA) Black (around 15k)
10. (DS, Square Enix) Seiken DS Children of Mana (10-15k)

How depressing is that??

 

[Frankfurter]

Nice, CoM continues to hang on in the top 20

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

How depressing is that??

Numbers are but but but

3rd party bonanza!!! 8/10

 

[lancubap]

Correction:

1. (PS2, Konami) Pro Baseball Spirits 3 - 69,000
2. (PS2, Namco) Pro Baseball Hot Star 2006 - 52,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
4. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
5. (PS2, Sega) Pro Soccer wo Tsukurou European Championship - 23,000 / 173,000
6. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000
7. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2
8. (PSP, Konami) Pro Baseball Portable
9. (PS2, EA) Black
10. (DS, Nintendo) Yawaraka Atama Juku

Oh wait, that last one is a non-game!

1. (PS2, Konami) Pro Baseball Spirits 3 - 69,000
2. (PS2, Namco) Pro Baseball Hot Star 2006 - 52,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
4. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
5. (PS2, Sega) Pro Soccer wo Tsukurou European Championship - 23,000 / 173,000
6. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000
7. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2
8. (PSP, Konami) Pro Baseball Portable
9. (PS2, EA) Black
10. (DS, Square Enix) Seiken DS Children of Mana


There... not much better.

What is that ?

 

[ioi]

Numbers are but but but

3rd party bonanza!!! 8/10

Anyway, give it two weeks (apart from Sarfi there's not a lot next week) and we'll see plenty of big new releases doing well, with Mother 3 leading the way

 

[duckroll]

1. (PS2, Konami) Pro Baseball Spirits 3 - 69,000
2. (PS2, Namco) Pro Baseball Hot Star 2006 - 52,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
4. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
5. (PS2, Sega) Pro Soccer wo Tsukurou European Championship - 23,000 / 173,000
6. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000
7. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2 (around 20k)
8. (PSP, Konami) Pro Baseball Portable (15-20k)
9. (PS2, EA) Black (around 15k)
10. (DS, Square Enix) Seiken DS Children of Mana (10-15k)

How depressing is that??

Not as depressing as the fact that Contact might never break 10k now. 20k looks pretty much impossible. Same for Xenosaga I+II but we at least expected that. :lol

So if Seiken DS pulled 10k at least this week, it would have officially broken 200k now. While the figures are decent, I have this feeling Seiken PS2 is soooo going to bomb based on how much the fanbase has dwindled.

 

[ioi]

Not as depressing as the fact that Contact might never break 10k now. 20k looks pretty much impossible. Same for Xenosaga I+II but we at least expected that. :lol

So if Seiken DS pulled 10k at least this week, it would have officially broken 200k now. While the figures are decent, I have this feeling Seiken PS2 is soooo going to bomb based on how much the fanbase has dwindled.

I'd have to agree. As I said for DQ Yangus I think PS2 sales are starting to fade now, games won't pull the sort of figures they would 2 years ago so I definitely can't see Seiken PS2 living up to people's expectations.

As for COM, I hold my hands up and am happy to say I was wrong- I really didn't think it would have any kind of legs like this (SD games never really have in the past) but I guess DS hardware is driving sales at the moment. Like others I think had the DSL launch been much bigger we'd have seen closer to 200k week 1, but with these kind of legs 250k is easily within reach and 300k possible. DS software is generally a bit down on last week (so I'd expect hardware to be less and be the cause) but Brain Flex has been doing around 13-15k last few weeks on MC so a rough guess would put COM on around 11-12k this week which isn't bad at all really.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Not as depressing as the fact that Contact might never break 10k now. 20k looks pretty much impossible. Same for Xenosaga I+II but we at least expected that. :lol

So if Seiken DS pulled 10k at least this week, it would have officially broken 200k now. While the figures are decent, I have this feeling Seiken PS2 is soooo going to bomb based on how much the fanbase has dwindled.

Just wait for Xenosaga III for bomb festival. Seiken will do better...again

 

[duckroll]

Just wait for Xenosaga III for bomb festival. Seiken will do better...again

I know we're all expecting XS Ep3 to bomb (and it will most definitely) but what's really sad is I have a feeling it might outsell Persona 3 anyway.

/me sheds a tear for poor Raidou.

 

[Yoshi]

1. (PS2, Konami) Pro Baseball Spirits 3 - 69,000
2. (PS2, Namco) Pro Baseball Hot Star 2006 - 52,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
4. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
5. (PS2, Sega) Pro Soccer wo Tsukurou European Championship - 23,000 / 173,000
6. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000
7. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2 (around 20k)
8. (PSP, Konami) Pro Baseball Portable (15-20k)
9. (PS2, EA) Black (around 15k)
10. (DS, Square Enix) Seiken DS Children of Mana (10-15k)

How depressing is that??

Now, please, make a list without those fucking sport games ;(.
1. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
2. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000
4. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2 (around 20k)
5. (PS2, EA) Black (around 15k)
6. (DS, Square Enix) Seiken DS Children of Mana (10-15k)

Not too great.

 

[ioi]

Now, please, make a list without those fucking sport games ;(.
1. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
2. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000
4. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2 (around 20k)
5. (PS2, EA) Black (around 15k)
6. (DS, Square Enix) Seiken DS Children of Mana (10-15k)

Not too great.

1. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
2. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000
4. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2 (around 20k)
5. (PS2, EA) Black (around 15k)
6. (DS, Square Enix) Seiken DS Children of Mana (10-15k)
7. Ace Combat Zero (10k ish)
8. Disaster Report 2 (10k ish)
9. Tamogotchi (9k ish)
10. Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires (8k ish)

Combined: less than 200k probably.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

I know we're all expecting XS Ep3 to bomb (and it will most definitely) but what's really sad is I have a feeling it might outsell Persona 3 anyway.

/me sheds a tear for poor Raidou.

Mmm, I'm going with Persona 3 in this battle.

Xeno went from 440 to 250 to...?
Persona went from 400 to 275-200 to ?

Yep, I'm going with Persona 3. But Seiken over them.

 

[Yoshi]

1. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
2. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000
4. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2 (around 20k)
5. (PS2, EA) Black (around 15k)
6. (DS, Square Enix) Seiken DS Children of Mana (10-15k)
7. Ace Combat Zero (10k ish)
8. Disaster Report 2 (10k ish)
9. Tamogotchi (9k ish)
10. Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires (8k ish)

Combined: less than 200k probably.

So now we have the definate software charts. Are PSP fans and Brain Training-haters happy now ?

 

[lancubap]

1. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
2. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000
4. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2 (around 20k)
5. (PS2, EA) Black (around 15k)
6. (DS, Square Enix) Seiken DS Children of Mana (10-15k)
7. Ace Combat Zero (10k ish)
8. Disaster Report 2 (10k ish)
9. Tamogotchi (9k ish)
10. Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires (8k ish)

Combined: less than 200k probably.

This is NOT the definite software chart. It is impossible that Brain Training 1 & 2 and Animal Crossing have sold nothing at all after an incredible amount of week around 60-100k.

The first one in the first page is the right estimation.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

Lancubap whooshed.

Anyway, I'm surprised that CoM is getting some legs. It's definitely got about 300k in it.

For some reason, I don't think Okami will crack the top 20. I don't know what the general buzz about the game is in Japan, but I get the feeling it won't do well. 15k launch, <100k lifetime.

 

[lancubap]

Lancubap whooshed.

Anyway, I'm surprised that CoM is getting some legs. It's definitely got about 300k in it.

Do you think that for 52+ weeks a game has sold constant around 50-70k and then, suddenly, without motivations, in this week has done < 7k ?

For me is impossible. And there's the fact that we are not speaking about 1 game, but 3 games (Brain Training 1 + 2 and Animal Crossing): so it is still more impossible.

Well, there's no chance that this is the right software chart. The first one in the first page is the best estimation for me.

 

[lochnesssnowman]

Do you think that for 52+ weeks a game has sold constant around 50-70k and then, suddenly, without motivations, in this week has done < 7k ?

For me is impossible. And there's the fact that we are not speaking about 1 game, but 3 games (Brain Training 1 + 2 and Animal Crossing): so it is still more impossible.

Well, there's no chance that this is the right software chart. The first one in the first page is the best estimation for me.

Read the thread man.

This is the real chart minus all 'non-games' (whatever they are) and sports games. The one on the front page is the real chart (not an estimation).

 

[Mr. Pointy]

I mean that they were taking out AC, BT, etc, to see what the charts would look like without them.

 

[lancubap]

Read the thread man.

This is the real chart minus all 'non-games' (whatever they are) and sports games. The one on the front page is the real chart (not an estimation).

Ah sorry ! I didn't know. Now I understand. Thanks.

 

[Fuzzy]

1. (DS, Nintendo) Pokemon Ranger: Diamond & Pearl e-no Michi - 44,000 / 321,000
2. (PS2, Square Enix) Final Fantasy XII - 38,000 / 2,126,000
3. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS - 23,000 / 1,258,000
4. (PS2, Banpresto) Another Century's Episode 2 (around 20k)
5. (PS2, EA) Black (around 15k)
6. (DS, Square Enix) Seiken DS Children of Mana (10-15k)
7. Ace Combat Zero (10k ish)
8. Disaster Report 2 (10k ish)
9. Tamogotchi (9k ish)
10. Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires (8k ish)

Combined: less than 200k probably.

You'd also have to remove Tamogotchi since it's not representative of the average 3rd party game on the DS. [/mono]

 

[duckroll]

You know what's really sad? Remove every sequel or spinoff on the top10 and the only game on it will be Brain Training. :lol

 

[Mr. Pointy]

Tamagotchi is a 'non-game' isn't it?

 

[saz]

You know what's really sad? Remove every sequel or spinoff on the top10 and the only game on it will be Brain Training. :lol

:lol

 

[Days like these...]

You know what's really sad? Remove every sequel or spinoff on the top10 and the only game on it will be Brain Training. :lol

Yeah but that's a non game so that would actually leave 0 games!!!

 

[Guns N' Poops]

What are the LTD sales of SotC in Japan?

 

[ioi]

What are the LTD sales of SotC in Japan?

Just over 200k.

http://www.everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg/japgamewk.php?name=Wanda%20and%20the%20Colossus

 

[Fuzzy]

Nope, Famitsu has it at 120k.

With the newest numbers duckroll posted from Famitsu, the Xbox 360 is now at 125,858 through April 2nd (compared to MC's 103,990 for the same time). He rounded up to 130K and felt really generous adding the +.

 

[RaijinFY]

I'd have to agree. As I said for DQ Yangus I think PS2 sales are starting to fade now, games won't pull the sort of figures they would 2 years ago so I definitely can't see Seiken PS2 living up to people's expectations.

Yes but it's the same happening every generation isnt it? I mean at the end of the SNES and PSOne eras (except for DQVII), sales started to go down too?

However every new generation tends to recover the sales quite a bit but I have a feeling It wont happen with PS3... :/ and with raising dev. cost, uh oh.

 

[Magicpaint]

Yes but it's the same happening every generation isnt it? I mean at the end of the SNES and PSOne eras (except for DQVII), sales started to go down too?

However every new generation tends to recover the sales quite a bit but I have a feeling It wont happen with PS3... :/ and with raising dev. cost, uh oh.

Well, FFVI sold more than the previous FFs even though it was much more expensive... games like the DKC series were also pretty strong late in the SNES' life.

 

[jj984jj]

Tamagotchi is a 'non-game' isn't it?

Not really, just very easy. It's not a pet simulator though.

 

[lancubap]

Where are Hardware's estimations ?

 

[Moor-Angol]

According to Famitsu numbers, Brain Training was 1.920.467 units sold on 02 April, that means now it has already overpassed 2 millions score.... impressive, Nintendo is making tons of money with easy concepts