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Media Create Sales: Oct 19-25, 2009
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Stumpokapow said:
I don't think it's an issue of being undershipped though. Usually when a game like this is undershipped and there's still constant demand, they have an immediate notification on the website to apologize for the resupply delay. With SJ I've not heard it running out of stock in any significant way, nor have people complained of not being able to buy it. The game is still readily available on all online retailers as well, including Amazon Japan, with a 12 dollar discount even. Sadly, I have to admit that it just seems the demand for this game is nowhere near what we hoped or anticipated.
kpop100 said:
It is there, but only as a phone model and not a standard.
The sales of iPhone in other countries tells people that they're interested in the standards that it is bringing forth to the industry. The same cannot be said of Japan. Sure, the phone sells and you'll see people using it, but so far, it's not a threat to the very idea of keitai.
Moor-Angol
Banned
Road said:
they are back...
p.s. : and just 50k between Wii LTD and PS3 LTD
danielijohnson
Banned
Yeah it's really great to see so many new releases in the top 10!
It'll be interesting to see if the PSPGo will start outselling the PSP3000. My guess is no. The DSi easily outsells the DSLite at this point, though I wonder how the LL will splinter the market.
It'll be interesting to see if the PSPGo will start outselling the PSP3000. My guess is no. The DSi easily outsells the DSLite at this point, though I wonder how the LL will splinter the market.
Moor-Angol said:
Wow.
So the consensus is that unless NSMB Wii really changes the Wii's fortunes, the boost that the PS3 will get from FFXIII will wind up making it sell more than the Wii YTD?
Reminds me of last years PSP vs DS battle which the PSP won the first 10-11 months, then failed within the last 6 weeks with the Pre-DSi launch, and the DSi launch.
DMeisterJ said:
I don't think that is the consensus at all and I find it extremely unlikely. I know everyone is probably sick of this post, but if you look back at what the Wii has done during the holiday season I think you will find that PS3 beating it in December is very unlikely, unless you think FF13 is going to lead to PS3 selling like 400K from the 17th-31st.
danielijohnson
Banned
I think you mean YTD?DMeisterJ said:
danielijohnson
Banned
Geeze. NSMB DS still hasn't plataeued.cvxfreak said:
Good luck DQIX.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
erm, it's out of stock everywhere here. Sofmap, Yodobashi, Ito Yokado, SATY, Messe Sanoh, Book Off (new copies), Asobit... the only evidence the game even existed (for the last couple weeks) are the used copies and a single boxed copy left on the shelves with the "Sorry, out of stock" tag on it.duckroll said:
Sony now has the magic combo: best hardware + best software. PS3 Slim will dominate in each territory for a long time to come, first on the HD front, and if the wand does get released in march, in wii's market as well.Sadist said:
PS3's userbase is going to be above the 360 one by March and Microsoft will need Natal to be very successful to resist PS3's rise to redemption. People who have money now want a PS3.
Segata Sanshiro said:
Well, it might be physically out of stock in stores, but is there really foaming demand for stores to order a huge restock for the title? Especially with P3P now out, I fear that Atlus has unintentionally cannibalized their own sales, and cut their own legs off.
schuelma said:
Except that PlayStation 3 is riding an upward wave, while Wii has been fallen down a lot comparing to the previous year's performance. There is nothing to drive Wii as much as it has been drove before, or more importantly: no healthy stream of games. On the other side, PlayStation 3 has been enjoying a fair success since relaunch, and there are plenty of high-profile games (sic!), and more importantly, a mainline Final Fantasy game in december.
I ,for one, am not saying that Wii sales will not be increased by a "lot" since it is holiday season after all, and all console's interest will bump, but I think that PlayStation 3 has all the chances to gain a higher increase than Wii do. New price, new machine, new Final Fantasy, and the buzz.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
marc^o^ said:
This is surrender?
Good to see the PS3 selling well after finally getting a more manageable price point. Next-next gen lesson learned, no more $599 consoles.
PS3 sales aren't even trending downards anymore, and with Winning Eleven (despite being a total POS) and Final Fantasy on the way I don't see that changing in November or December.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Good PS3 hold. Lets hope they can keep it up.
DMeisterJ said:
- PS3 will be higher, no question. However, it has such a long ways to go and there isn't really anything coming out between now (11/5 with WE 2010) and FF13 to keep sales high so I don't know how much higher it will get until the 17th.
- I don't think the Wii's downturn YOY is particularly relevant, honestly. First, for most of the year the games list was so lacking as to make that downturn pretty unavoidable. For some perspective, there will probably be more 100K + selling games between now and Dec. 10 than there were in the first 10 plus months combined. Second, since the price drop Wii has been pretty consistent at 25-30K, which is about where it was last year- and last year it sold 415K in December with an absolutely horrible lineup. I think 500K is the bare minimum it will do in December, which is a very high bar for the PS3 to climb, even with FF13.
mentalfloss
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marc^o^ said:
Shying away from this bait is giving me blue balls.
By this time last year, weekly sales were pretty similar to what we're seeing now. So taking into consideration that NSMB should be >>> Animal Crossing/Wii Music, I think it's likely to do extremely well during the holidays. The real question is how much improvement the PS3 sees over that time.DMeisterJ said:
duckroll said:
I doubt the demand is foaming or frothing or anything like that, but people can't buy what they can't buy, and as for me, I don't buy the argument that there wasn't sufficient demand for the game to outsell, say, EO2 or Raidou 2 -- there just weren't enough copies in retail for it to do so. I'm really puzzled as to the lack of a second shipment, and obviously the game isn't going to sell more if there aren't any games available in stores for people to purchase. The traditional metrics for gauging demand of a title early on is how quickly it sells through initially; SJ had high initial sell through. I have absolutely no doubt that if this had been followed up with another shipment, the game would've sold more. Maybe not 230k's worth of copies, but I don't believe for a moment it would've capped out at the 115k first shipment ceiling.
onken
Member
duckroll said:
I wish people would stop talking like Amazon has some relevancy in Japan. Newsflash: it doesn't. Most people haven't even heard of it, hence it's usually the absolute last place to sell-out of anything.
schuelma said:
You keep banging on about the Wii's killer line-up this year, let's face it the only thing that's going to move hardware is NSMB (maaaaaaaybe ToG to a much smaller extent). The success of the Wii this holiday rests completely on its shoulders.
NintendosBooger
Member
Honestly?
Nintendo needs to quit being cheap and consistently develop games of the caliber, quality, production, and mainstream appeal of SSBB and Mario Galaxy. These are the type of games that should be complemented with the casual titles such as Wii Sports, Wii Fit, etc. I dont understand how they were in such of a roll the first 18 months only to slow down so much afterwards. Did they honestly believe that the third party companies would pick up the slack?
They're a big company, with a shitload of talent and ideas. They need to quit wasting resources on making another Mario baseball or football game or some dumb ass Animal Crossing console game. Quit re-releasing shit like the Metroid Prime Trilogy.
Nintendo needs to quit being cheap and consistently develop games of the caliber, quality, production, and mainstream appeal of SSBB and Mario Galaxy. These are the type of games that should be complemented with the casual titles such as Wii Sports, Wii Fit, etc. I dont understand how they were in such of a roll the first 18 months only to slow down so much afterwards. Did they honestly believe that the third party companies would pick up the slack?
They're a big company, with a shitload of talent and ideas. They need to quit wasting resources on making another Mario baseball or football game or some dumb ass Animal Crossing console game. Quit re-releasing shit like the Metroid Prime Trilogy.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
It would be fair to put PS3 and Wii on more equal footing this year though. I don't doubt your forecast though.schuelma said:
I still wonder why NCL let the Wii sink like a rock even in Japan. Iwata kept talking about how they needed great content and new proposals in a timely fashion. Maybe Nintendo is forced to come back to reality now and realize that 'evergreen' titles are nice to have, but won't keep your system swimming in the blue ocean.
LiquidMetal14 said:
Yes, absolutely. And I see the PS3 doing much much better than it ever has this holiday..but I think some people are underestimating how well Nintendo does during holidays and how well NSMB Wii could do.
Moor-Angol
Banned
schuelma said:
next thursday : Winning Eleven 2010 + PS3 bundle
and this year no PS2 version is planned for Japan (i expect WE 2010 PS3 around 500k LTD at least)
maybe Wii has a better line-up from 26 nov. to 3 dec. but i don't know if 3 weeks can save Wii from PS3 momentum started 2 months ago.
i know i could be wrong, but i still think PS3 YTD > Wii YTD despite all sales-age gaffers think the opposite
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Now? No, probably not. The used market is now enjoying the fruits of Atlus's miscalculation. A timely second shipment in the second week? I bet we'd be talking 150k+ right now instead of 120k.duckroll said:
It was just like Infinite Space or w/e. It was like the game was only out for a single week.