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I think week 51 is the biggest one of them. Sales should be even higher next week.
The highest sales should be pushed back to Week 52 and Week 53 this year. Week 52 is the 21-27th.
I think week 51 is the biggest one of them. Sales should be even higher next week.
Do people actually still think that?
I think it's been pretty obvious since Splatoon's release that the PS4 isn't passing the Wii U in Japan until sometime in 2017.
Yeah, Pokémon finally got a serious competitor and it's quite astonishing to see YW leading sw sales for two years in a row - I still think YW is going to deflate next year, but until now L5 has been working well in keeping brand awareness high and YW might stabilize around reasonable levels (e.g. YW3 doing something like 2-2.5m).
Bolded the games that won't do anything to the hardware. Italics for games that will move minimal amount of hardware.
That leaves Yakuza 6, Persona 5, Final Fantasy XV, & Dragon Quest XI as the games that will move great hardware.
I think the PS4 will easily pass Wii U next year, but let's not overestimate games like The Last Guardian & Street Fighter, & Dark Souls 3 already has a majority of its fanbase on PS4 due to Bloodborne.
3DS no but n3DS isn't far off actually. Comparable CPU and GPU performance (older designs but higher clocked and more customized), the same amount of RAM, but no bulky iOS overhead clogging system resources either.The 3DS is also not a pound for pound match up here to the 3GS. They're different systems with different constraints.
Pokemon Z should jump directly on NX (if portable) with a brand new engine
I know, it would be stupid, because "Z" should be made exactly to exploit existing assets, and a new console, even if successfull, isn't exactly the hottest item among kids (first target for Pokemon), but there are times where you should act bolder
I have a question about Wii U and PS4. Both have been out awhile and the Wii U continues to have a larger install base in Japan. It looks like it wont be until maybe late next year for the PS4 to catch up.
That being said, why isn't the Wii U getting more Japanese releases?
I know the PS4 is much bigger worldwide, but what about all those genres that only sell in Japan? Im talking about your train controller sims, your dating sims, your idol karaoke etc. You know, the Vita lineup.
Why were those games not made for the Wii U even though it has a decent install base in Japan?
sörine;189503417 said:3DS no but n3DS isn't far off actually. Comparable CPU and GPU performance (older designs but higher clocked and more customized), the same amount of RAM, but no bulky iOS overhead clogging system resources either.
I think n3DS could pull off a fairly decent version of PE without much work. Although technical arguments against 3DS pulling off Minecraft are misplaced anyway since Mojang has already clairified there weren't any technical barriers preventing it.
Act bolder in releasing a brand new game that is supposed to sell >2.5m on a platform with 0 installed base?
Pokémon Z might be cross-gen, though. Nevertheless, I do think GF is really changing its future plans for the franchise and will not be as predictable as it was until BW.
If this is their plan, they should junk Z entirely and kick off a new generation as quickly as possible. Z is meant to be squeezing as much profit out of the assets as possible, and if it isn't doing that it should be scrapped.Pokemon Z should jump directly on NX (if portable) with a brand new engine
I know, it would be stupid, because "Z" should be made exactly to exploit existing assets, and a new console, even if successfull, isn't exactly the hottest item among kids (first target for Pokemon), but there are times where you should act bolder
I doubt that as a Wii U version suddenly materialized. They just said it hadn't happened yet because they hadn't pursued it.I think they were "polite" to the question.
there were games able to sell even more, being launch titles.
look at Wii sport for example.
i'd say that more than the install base (people could REALLY go out and continue buying NX console for Pokemon and Pokemon for the console) but the target age
I don't see how the comparison is apt: Wii Sports was a sleeper hit that was able to sell over time because it became THE Wii game; it sold until it was replaced by Wii Sports Resort; it didn't rely on a specific audience being a universal and completely unique experience; furthermore, it reached the 2.5m after one year in the market. Finally, Nintendo didn't expect Wii Sports to sell millions.
That's why you never see multi-million seller IPs launching along a new platform with a mainline entry.
sörine;189505091 said:I doubt that as a Wii U version suddenly materialized. They just said it hadn't happened yet because they hadn't pursued it.
Gotta wonder how much money capcom is leaving on the table with Monster Hunter
Series could be so much bigger than it already is
Gotta wonder how much money capcom is leaving on the table with Monster Hunter
Series could be so much bigger than it already is
How?Gotta wonder how much money capcom is leaving on the table with Monster Hunter
Series could be so much bigger than it already is
Where?
Z would not be a main entry, plus if I was Pokemon, I'd try to BE the NX game, before someone else steals the thunder
Gotta wonder how much money capcom is leaving on the table with Monster Hunter
Series could be so much bigger than it already is
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| | Mario Kart 8 | Splatoon | Difference |
| | [WIU] (2014/05/29)| [WIU] (2015/05/28)| |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | SPLTN - MK8 |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 1 | 325.892| 325.892| 144.818| 144.818| -181.074|
| 2 | 73.051| 398.943| 68.913| 213.731| -185.212|
| 3 | 42.261| 441.205| 53.198| 266.929| -174.276|
| 4 | 28.112| 469.316| 43.653| 310.582| -158.734|
| 5 | 23.520| 492.837| 37.458| 348.040| -144.797|
| 6 | 19.386| 512.223| 34.135| 382.175| -130.048|
| 7 | 15.143| 527.366| 26.136| 408.312| -119.054|
| 8 | 14.992| 542.358| 22.557| 430.869| -111.489|
| 9 | 18.129| 560.487| 24.289| 455.158| -105.329|
| 10 | 18.067| 578.554| 28.256| 483.413| -95.141|
| 11 | 20.860| 599.414| 35.620| 519.034| -80.380|
| 12 | 28.221| 627.635| 41.361| 560.394| -67.241|
| 13 | 12.075| 639.710| 23.874| 584.268| -55.442|
| 14 | 11.148| 650.858| 23.403| 607.670| -43.188|
| 15 | 8.221| 659.079| 18.826| 626.497| -32.582|
| 16 | 6.839| 665.918| 17.490| 643.987| -21.931|
| 17 | 6.396| 672.313| 16.772| 660.759| -11.554|
| 18 | 5.936| 678.250| 20.736| 681.495| 3.245|
| 19 | 4.517| 682.767| 14.958| 696.454| 13.687|
| 20 | 3.996| 686.763| 13.186| 709.639| 22.876|
| 21 | 3.625| 690.387| 14.680| 724.319| 33.932|
| 22 | 2.821| 693.208| 13.159| 737.478| 44.270|
| 23 | 3.170| 696.378| 11.969| 749.477| 53.099|
| 24 | 3.210| 699.588| 13.891| 763.338| 63.750|
| 25 | 13.544| 713.132| 21.098| 784.436| 71.304|
| 26 | 8.752| 721.884| 17.681| 802.117| 80.233|
| 27 | 12.742| 734.626| 23.823| 825.940| 91.314|
| 28 | 19.244| 753.870| 35.256| 861.197| 107.327|
| 29 | 24.938| 778.808| 51.138| 912.335| 133.527|
| 30 | 34.331| 813.139| | | |
| 31 | 38.637| 851.776| | | |
| 32 | 28.403| 880.180| | | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Total -|1.126.412| -| 912.335| -214.077|
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| | Monster Hunter 4U | Monster Hunter X | Difference |
| | [3DS] (2014/10/11)| [3DS] (2015/11/28)| |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | MH4U - MHX |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 1 |1.446.289|1.446.289|1.488.367|1.488.367| 42.078|
| 2 | 327.212|1.773.501| 332.478|1.820.845| 47.344|
| 3 | 172.348|1.945.850| 192.203|2.013.048| 67.198|
| 4 | 101.349|2.047.199| | | |
| 5 | 57.645|2.104.844| | | |
| 6 | 39.502|2.144.346| | | |
| 7 | 28.728|2.173.073| | | |
| 8 | 27.624|2.200.698| | | |
| 9 | 25.157|2.225.855| | | |
| 10 | 29.418|2.255.273| | | |
| 11 | 38.681|2.293.954| | | |
| 12 | 51.306|2.345.260| | | |
| 13 | 45.754|2.391.014| | | |
| 14 | 21.453|2.412.467| | | |
| 15 | 15.588|2.428.056| | | |
| 16 | 12.318|2.440.373| | | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Total -|2.529.565| -|2.013.048| -516.517|
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There are commercial and homebrew clones on 3DS already. It could run a version of Minecraft for sure. n3DS could handle a lot more too.But we know that Wii U is very capable to run the game ... the 3DS ...
Obviously this is my opinon about it.
PC/Mobile F2P with cosmetic micro transactions there is probably something like this already out in Japan?
I didnt want to enter in this discussion, but i think its interesting that you said about the ps4 baseline and i agree, but i also want to share some data:Wii U year to date: 651.468
PS4 year to date: 1.165.211
PS4 sold 513k more than Wii U so far this year. And this is with the Splatoon effect, Super Mario Maker (way bigger than any 2016 Wii U release), a weaker PS4 lineup compared to the next year one, and 9 months of full priced PS4.
I think it's a safe bet to say that next year, considering all the elements I stated before, the PS4 will be able to sell even more compared to the Wii U.
Now, the yearly gap could be smaller if the Wii U will sell more than PS4 again in the next two weeks (three is impossible, considering how usually the new-year week is more favourable to Sony consoles than Nintendo's). let's say that the gap will be even higher than this week. This week the Wii U sold 9k more than PS4. Let's pretend that the gap will be double for two week and so let's say that the Wii U will sell 36k more than PS4 from now until the end of the year.
The yearly gap would be decrase, let's say around 480k. Isn't it safe to tell the PS4 next year will be able to sell more than 480k more than the Wii U?
and, being the global gap around 660k, even with it becoming around 700k, don't you think that it will be easily achievable for the PS4 to fill that gap?
Gotta wonder how much money capcom is leaving on the table with Monster Hunter
Series could be so much bigger than it already is
Pokémon Z would need to sell 2.5m or something like that so it can be considered a mainline entry after all.
Whats the list of Japanese million sellers on home consoles so far this generation?
Whats the list of Japanese million sellers on home consoles so far this generation?
Mario Kart 8 VS Splatoon (1 million at retail in two weeks)
Code:------------------------------------------------------------- | | Mario Kart 8 | Splatoon | Difference | | | [WIU] (2014/05/29)| [WIU] (2015/05/28)| | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| |Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | SPLTN - MK8 | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| | 1 | 325.892| 325.892| 144.818| 144.818| -181.074| | 2 | 73.051| 398.943| 68.913| 213.731| -185.212| | 3 | 42.261| 441.205| 53.198| 266.929| -174.276| | 4 | 28.112| 469.316| 43.653| 310.582| -158.734| | 5 | 23.520| 492.837| 37.458| 348.040| -144.797| | 6 | 19.386| 512.223| 34.135| 382.175| -130.048| | 7 | 15.143| 527.366| 26.136| 408.312| -119.054| | 8 | 14.992| 542.358| 22.557| 430.869| -111.489| | 9 | 18.129| 560.487| 24.289| 455.158| -105.329| | 10 | 18.067| 578.554| 28.256| 483.413| -95.141| | 11 | 20.860| 599.414| 35.620| 519.034| -80.380| | 12 | 28.221| 627.635| 41.361| 560.394| -67.241| | 13 | 12.075| 639.710| 23.874| 584.268| -55.442| | 14 | 11.148| 650.858| 23.403| 607.670| -43.188| | 15 | 8.221| 659.079| 18.826| 626.497| -32.582| | 16 | 6.839| 665.918| 17.490| 643.987| -21.931| | 17 | 6.396| 672.313| 16.772| 660.759| -11.554| | 18 | 5.936| 678.250| 20.736| 681.495| 3.245| | 19 | 4.517| 682.767| 14.958| 696.454| 13.687| | 20 | 3.996| 686.763| 13.186| 709.639| 22.876| | 21 | 3.625| 690.387| 14.680| 724.319| 33.932| | 22 | 2.821| 693.208| 13.159| 737.478| 44.270| | 23 | 3.170| 696.378| 11.969| 749.477| 53.099| | 24 | 3.210| 699.588| 13.891| 763.338| 63.750| | 25 | 13.544| 713.132| 21.098| 784.436| 71.304| | 26 | 8.752| 721.884| 17.681| 802.117| 80.233| | 27 | 12.742| 734.626| 23.823| 825.940| 91.314| | 28 | 19.244| 753.870| 35.256| 861.197| 107.327| | 29 | 24.938| 778.808| 51.138| 912.335| 133.527| | 30 | 34.331| 813.139| | | | | 31 | 38.637| 851.776| | | | | 32 | 28.403| 880.180| | | | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| |Total -|1.126.412| -| 912.335| -214.077| -------------------------------------------------------------
So Dark Souls has a majority of its fanbase thanks to Bloodborne, but Yakuza doesn't despite having Ishin, 0 and Kiwami coming early next year? (none exclusive but you get the point)
Anyway I don't think you can put Yakuza 6 and Persona 5 in the same ballpark as FFXV and DQXI, Persona 5 is in fact very close to Star Ocean 5 if anything (like it's a series that actually sold over 500k copies for most of its entries).
I may be forgetting some game for both but generally I think PS4 will have much higher baseline than WiiU over the course of the year based on the line up alone. NX could be a factor too but it will hurt sales of Wii U more than PS4.
And three of them are jRPGs, and the list of jRPGs only gets even more audience redundant when you add in SO5, Ys, KH2.8, etc. (Other titles, like Dark Souls 3, already have their audience on PS4, they're not going to go out and buy another PS4.) These aren't vastly different titles either, they'll have a lot of overlap. DQXI also has the very real "problem" of the 3DS version galvanizing its sales potential.Yakuza 6
Street Fighter V
Persona 5
Final Fantasy XV
Dragon Quest XI
I don't agree.
Do tell us. How could this happen?
Vita/PS4
You're doubting Builders ? I don't think it will land too far, especially since there are three versions of it.
Vita/PS4
I'm wondering about the effect of NX on Wii U sales, myself. Anticipation for a replacement system should definitely drive Wii U sales down, but at the same time, I don't think aggressive price cuts to clear stock are impossible, so it could still sell Wii-U-decent numbers well into next year.
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Did you look at YTD numbers? PS4 is almost doubling WiiU numbers. With a lot more major tiles coming to PS4 next year, PS4 could pass WiiU as early as the end of summer 2016.
Splatoon will surpass MK8 lifetime in Japan within 12-20 weeks?