I know right? This is ann amazing display of incompetence. You've outdone yourself Konami. In before MGS series is shelved due to disappointing Survive sales.
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Metal Gear Survive will require an internet connection even when playing solo.
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Gamezone
Gold Member
Yeah, they even said they went offline because everyone complained
Megatron
Member
Lol! Well done!
stargateheaven
Member
it will sell bad.
and that means no more metal gear. not even remakes of metal gear 1 or 2 etc.
i for one think this game will be fun
Gamezone
Gold Member
But it was announced as an online coop game.
CEJames
Member
This industry won't miss a beat moving forward. DRM and lootboxes for everyone!
So? It's still a solo game if you want it to be. You just have to also be connected online to play it.
You know what else was announced as a co-op game? Ghost Recon Wildlands, yet that doesn't force you to be online to play solo. Not as far as I'm aware at least.
You guys have a lot of faith in Konami, who shut down MGO2 only 4 years after it was released. What if, 4 or 5 years from now, they also shut down the game's servers since not many people are playing? Do we end up with a game that's basically unplayable, even though the main campaign can be played solo in its entirety?
SolidSnakeUS
Member
I thought they listed it as not being there. Oh well, my bad, sorry about that, but still, they are taking the easiest way out of releasing this. Minimal effort in making the game and maximum effort to fucking consumers.
stargateheaven
Member
who says its minimal effort in making the game?
i mean it was announced so long ago, had footage last year at TGS and the game is still not out.
I'm sure they are at least putting some effort in.
It's important to acknowledge that this game is still being developed by many of the developers who worked on MGSV. If there's anything undisputed about MGSV, it's that it has amazing gameplay mechanics.
Spooky Scary Skeleton
Member
Looks like Im buying this.
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Pretty good. To think an actual CEO said that.
DryvBy
Member
Gamezone
Gold Member
It`s very little there that indicates that the game can`t be played offline.
KingdomHeartsFan
Member
Yup completely writing this off now.
stargateheaven
Member
exactly.
and the game mechanics are is what is gonna make the game smooth and fun to play.
im not saying they wont fuck things up in another way. but still...
Musky_Cheese
Banned
Welp that sucks.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Sucks for console fans I guess, considering this means those who havent subscribe to the consoles online gaming service, will have to drop the game or pay Sony or Microsoft some money every month to play it
Fortunately online gaming is free on PC
Fortunately online gaming is free on PC
BlitzerRadic
Member
No it wouldn't. Any item in D3 can be modded and has been for a long time now. On top of that duping is easy as hell. If you matchmake it is guaranteed you will be playing with someone who does not have legit gear or hasn't duped.
Making this game online only is the right move. people complained the PC D3 was online only but now they look at whats going on at the console side and think they dodged a bullet.
Yeah cause online only is such a great idea that certainly hasn't contributed to the failure of other games with singleplayer and multiplayer.
Jawmuncher
Member
Nah fam. Even at a budget price I aint fucking with that for $40. If you want to do online only I can wait for $20
hemo memo
Gold Member
What if you lose connection for some reason? And it kick you back to the main menu while playing a solo game. What if it was a boss fight?
You KNOW they're gonna be in this game.
HappyBivouac
Member
Metal Gear
Survive
won't
its own launch
I tried.
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
I don't. What do I get by connecting my console to the internet?
Colossal Moo
Member
I strongly disagree. There is nothing to stop publishers from doing always online and for the most part, they haven't done it. All you have to do to make a single player game always online is move most of the game's logic to a server. The portion which runs on the PC/console is just a 3D graphics engine which sends input (key presses, mouse movement, and controller state) to the server and gets a response which tells it what to render (i.e. monster A is in state B at coordinate (x, y, z)).
So why haven't publishers jumped onto always online en mass? I do not know but I have some guesses:
1) It's expensive. Here is why it's expensive:
1.A) You have to hire more software developers.
1.B) You have to hire expensive services software developers.
1.C) It's harder to write a networked application. This means that the chance of project failure goes up.
1.D) You have to pay for an operations staff to monitor the game's server's once it launches.
1.E) You have to pay people to secure the game's service. Service security is hard and most people screw it up (most software developers just don't care about security).
2) Your customers get very mad if your game doesn't work because the servers are down or overloaded.
3) Your customers get mad if they die because of network lag.
4) Customers are not dumb and many will avoid games which are always online because they know it may be a very bad deal for them. It can be a bad deal because the game has a higher chance of not working (it's more complex and networks are not reliable). It can also be a bad deal if the game stops working because the servers are shut down.
5) Piracy is lower on consoles. On the PC, always online appears to be a very good idea if you have a hit game. A good example is Diablo 3. It sold very well (over 6 million copies around launch) and it was an always online title. I believe I remember Blizard having problems because they didn't expect so many people to buy it (they probably based their sales estimates on the numbers from Diablo and Diablo 2 which could both be easily pirated). Another good example, is the Sims 4 which sold well and was always online at launch.
Skanderani
Member
Is this hypothetical or is hayter in mg survive?
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
I was actually considering buying this game used
im effin out now.
im effin out now.
I'm not saying that is a great idea or not.
I'm saying what is happening and why.
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