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Microsoft: 40 Million Xbox 360 Consoles Sold
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D.Lo
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So, Wii shipped won't pass PS360 shipped this quarter. If Wii is, say, 4 million, and PS3 hits 36 mill LTD as seems expected, it makes it 71.4 vs 76.2. If Wii is 5 million and PS3 only hits 35, 72.4 vs 75.2, we're getting damn close.
Next quarter is possible, but most likely calendar Q3 2010. And it will blow past by calendar Q4.
Next quarter is possible, but most likely calendar Q3 2010. And it will blow past by calendar Q4.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
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is that really surprising with the 360?
wow at people comparing RROD to PS2 or PSone issues.
However, console failure and piracy have a very small 'effect' on overall sales, so thos 40 million are legit to me.
BTW, 360 is the first non japanese console that i would consider really mainstrem. That is a great achievement.
However, console failure and piracy have a very small 'effect' on overall sales, so thos 40 million are legit to me.
BTW, 360 is the first non japanese console that i would consider really mainstrem. That is a great achievement.
Stumpokapow said:is that really surprising with the 360?
I'm on my 2nd 360 and I've bought a launch unit. I'm also on my 2nd Wii and PS2. My PS3 is staying strong, but I get worried when I read how many PS3 units end up dying on gaf.
Just wondering how people go through so many of the same console.
I counted my games yesterday and I have 61 Xbox 360 games. Obviously I'm older now and I'm buying my own games so I'm not trying to compare it directly to other consoles I had when I was younger, but still I would have never thought I'd own that many games on one console. I'm certainly not bragging at the number, but for me, that's a lot of fucking games.
People can talk shit about paying for xbox live all they want, it's the reason that the xbox has sold as well as it has as the relative newcomer in this market and it has provided me with countless hours of fun gaming with friends online. It has also provided competition in the online gaming market and given us tons of amazing new ways to use a gaming console (not just for 360 but it has led to innovation by Sony and even stubborn adoption by Nintendo). I can't tell you how much time I spend streaming Netflix on my 360.
In closing, I love all my consoles in their own special way, but this post is dedicated to my launch system 360 that gave its life bringing me lolz on the interwebs.
Grats, Microsoft. Now don't go and fuck it all up by letting Molyneux fill your head with crazy bullshit about this Natal shenanigans.
People can talk shit about paying for xbox live all they want, it's the reason that the xbox has sold as well as it has as the relative newcomer in this market and it has provided me with countless hours of fun gaming with friends online. It has also provided competition in the online gaming market and given us tons of amazing new ways to use a gaming console (not just for 360 but it has led to innovation by Sony and even stubborn adoption by Nintendo). I can't tell you how much time I spend streaming Netflix on my 360.
In closing, I love all my consoles in their own special way, but this post is dedicated to my launch system 360 that gave its life bringing me lolz on the interwebs.
Grats, Microsoft. Now don't go and fuck it all up by letting Molyneux fill your head with crazy bullshit about this Natal shenanigans.
Does anyone recall when the last price cut for the 360 in the US was? They been down in units YOY in the past 4 quarters, for a total of 1.2M. Is that because they've been milking the current price point? Seems like they've been there a while. If so, I'd expect a nice pop with a price cut this year.
pseudocaesar
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I think they blew their load prematurely when it came to their most recent price cut.jcm said:
SamBa said:PS3 vs 360 until last year (aligned launches):
Congrats to Microsoft for shipping 40.2 million consoles, but one has to consider at what cost. RRoD and popular Microsoft published games not seeing (or very late) PC releases including Fable 2, Gears of War 2, Halo 3 and soon even Alan Wake. PC gaming seems to be suffering because of the XBox 360.
It will be interesting to see if PS3 sales have been able to push beyond 36 million last quarter as expected (despite the shortages in Europe and North America). That would put the PS3 ~6 million ahead of XBox 360 with aligned launches.
Not bad for an overpriced, underpowered games console lacking games! :lol
Sometimes I wish I had a time machine to 2005... the fact that this situation exists is a total failure on SONY's part. I'm sure SONY was pitching to their share-holders that in 4 years they might overtake MS.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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jcm said:
The last proper price cut was in September of 2008. Last year we saw some SKU reshuffling (Premium got discontinued, Elite dropped down to Premium's level), but no real price cut as price points remained exactly the same. A real price cut later this year is a given.
well, even in Japan, MS has managed to sell 1million. Sure it is not enough, but PS3 has struggled and is around 5 million. In fact HD gaming is not poplar in japan, PS2 success is nowhere to be seen for HD consoles, and attention has shifted toward portable gaming.Mik2121 said:
So i 'd say that they have 'passed' the japanese test. Not with a good score but enough to go to the next round
would it be too difficult to know the price for each console during their life time, because that is an interesing point related to sold units.
Dark Octave
Banned
And once they're exposed then what? Kill them?LosDaddie said:
Dark Octave
Banned
Because it's similar to a baseball player who juices and has the home run record. It's partly you, but partly something else that is the reason for the record.EagleEyes said:
Microsoft made shitty hardware which is why they broke. But they made a great system which is why we re-purchased them when they broke.
And as much as you may hate to believe it, a lot of people re-purchased 360's this gen, including myself.
No hate here, just the facts.
RROD doesn't matter at ALL, with the highest attatch rate, even if there were only 10million original owners, it still is a console with excellent software sales. It would even be a compliment to MS for having such active gamers that buy many games.
I could also start about how much money they make on the elite at a ~250 dollar price tag and how Sony's goal is to not have a negative saldo (for 'project' PS3) at the end of the console cycle but that would anger some people.
I could also start about how much money they make on the elite at a ~250 dollar price tag and how Sony's goal is to not have a negative saldo (for 'project' PS3) at the end of the console cycle but that would anger some people.
LosDaddie said:
There was a friend of mine that actually convinced me to get an Xbox 360... then turned all PS3 fanboy on me and he has been aligning launches since Day 1. Always accused me of being an Xbot, yet I have a Wii and I plan to buy my brother's 60GB PS3 ( I convinced his girlfriend to buy him one around launch ) so I cut him cause my opinion was always WRONG! I'm glad I don't talk with him anymore.
Zen said:
As far as they have stated publicly no, the original Slim didn't allow them to break even at 299$. They have been selling them at a small loss but considering software sales the overall PS3 business is profitable.
This spring revision has allowed them to break even on the hardware according to the company CFO. A further revision is expected this fall which will cut costs furtherly.
Narpas Sword0
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Dark Octave said:
if you went out and bought another when when you are in line with a free one, i'd have to say that's pretty stupid. I'd also have to say that the average joe schmoe consumer is not going to do something like that when he has a free 360 on the way.
GBA, DS, PSP, PS2, and PS3 all have second (and soemtimes third) revisions that surely lead to at least as much double dipping as any RROD issue, and yet I don't see those sales threads consumed with all this conspiracy wonk bullshit.
I know mine has broke a couple of times but the thing comes with a 3 year warranty. I've only bought 2 xbox 360's in 5 years now. Every gen i've had to buy at least 2 consoles of each brand( PS1, Dreamcast, PS2, and Xbox). So to me, the 360 has been no different.Dark Octave said:
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Dark Octave said:
But it's not like a baseball player who juices at all. A baseball player who juices automatically taints their entire record. If the 360's hardware sales were "juiced", it'd certainly taint their hardware record, but it'd only improve their software record. The analogy is terrible, as are most on GAF.
Fine, some portion of 360s are replaced. It's not 40 million sales, it's 35 million sales. It's not 40 million sales, it's 30 million sales. It's not 40 million sales, it's 20 million sales. It's not 40 million sales, it's 10 million sales. Take your pick. Pick any number of sales that you think are bogus and subtract them. And do this for any console. Whether it's PS2/PS3 for people rebuying new form factors, or people rebuying 360s when theirs breaks, or the DS where whole tens of millions of sales are repurchases.
... except that no one out there is "re-purchasing" Live, and no one out there is "re-purchasing" games, so the more hardware sales you take away from them, the more spectacular their software sales are.
So if you reflect on things that way, instead of having solid hardware sales with excellent software sales, Microsoft has mediocre hardware sales and LITERALLY UNPRECEDENTED OMG WORLD RECORD BREAKING HOW DO THEY DO IT software sales. The more hardware sales you subtract from the 360, the more impressive MS's efforts in selling Live and software are.
Of course, them having 40 million hardware sales would be much easier to believe, but you're the one who thinks they don't.
Cornbread78
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REMEMBER CITADEL said:
Not msure man, all the prices were just "dropped" in the fall after PS3 announced it's price drop. The Aracade went down to $199 and the "Elite" went down to $299 to compete directly with the PS3 Slims at the same price.
Questions for whoever is the sales age expert here:
- Does the attachment rate include 2 attachments "(mostly Lego Batman and Madagascar) for every "Elite" model sold?
- Is there any data to calculate the number of 2nd and 3rd units sold for any given system? Ex. I have a fatty PS3 and I bought a Slim. or RROD 360 owner buys 2nd and 3rd system to replace damaged system? I also had to return 2 Wii's that had bad drives.
Aizu_Itsuko
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GAF is full of (insert rival company name here) fanboys.
Every thread is a (WORSHIPPED COMPANY) bash fest and mods do nothing because they all secretly support (rival company be here again).
If only this forum was as fanboy-free as (WORSHIPPED COMPANY)-CHEERLEADERS.COM!
Every thread is a (WORSHIPPED COMPANY) bash fest and mods do nothing because they all secretly support (rival company be here again).
If only this forum was as fanboy-free as (WORSHIPPED COMPANY)-CHEERLEADERS.COM!
Dark Octave
Banned
RRoD after 11 months. Sent it in. Disk drive breaks a week later. Sent it in. They send me an old launch console (beat up and scuffed). I sell it and buy an Elite. Elite breaks a few more times. They make me buy my own boxes, so now it's costing me more than time. I get fed up and try a local repair shop. Breaks a few more times. I sell it and get another Elite. I don't know what else I could have done.Narpas Sword0 said:
I really liked the console and I have invested so much into it, so I stuck with it. I have multiple friends who have done the same thing. Some without even attempting to send it in and others who sent it in once and haven't had issues yet.
Sanic
Member
I think to the average joe, the idea of an expensive piece of electronics breaking, and them having to go out and purchase a new one, is absurd. So they just send it in for repair. I think the people who go out and rebuy 360s are a vocal minority.
Of course, we'll never know one way or another which is why I hate these conversations.
Of course, we'll never know one way or another which is why I hate these conversations.
CrayzeeCarl
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wut :lolrayner said:
[Nintex] said:
Nope, because that game is in fact full of awesome and win.
CrayzeeCarl said:
Indeeed. :lol
LosDaddie said:
Again I think the success here is more in the fact that they have totally turned around the actual business of the division. I mean a billion dollars in profit for the fiscal year? That is like PS2 kind of level profits iirc. This will also be the third year they can say they have turned an overall profit in the division. If you say the next box whatever it is called is 3 to four years out they could be looking at some healthy profits for the rest of this gen and likely some decent return for this generation. That is a heck of turnaround from last gen even in light of RROD. Personally, they just need to throw some of those profits at solid SW for the rest of this gen save slim and eventual price cuts of course.
Dark Octave
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:lol Sometimes you gotta cut a muffuka.CrayzeeCarl said:
D.Lo
Member
It's worldwide, and a shipped attach ratio, so yes it includes bundled stuff.Saiyar said:
Hmm, that does actually make me a bit wary of the software numbers actually. Here in Australia I'm not sure you can buy a 360 without at least two bundled games, and the standard bundle now has four games. I've never seen so much manufacturer bundling with a console (Wii/DS/PS2 shovelware packs are retailer bundles). I'm sure having four bundled games slows down initial software purchases for your average console buyer, but if they buy the console for a certain mainstream game (say GTA4), then what would most people do with copies of Forza and Kung Fu Panda?
Dark Octave said:
Nah, just ignore them whenever they post because it's known they are little more than shills for their favorite console. Many of these fanboys were already known (to GAF vets), so one could already predict what their reaction to the X360's success would be.
EagleEyes said:
It should be clear why. Because their favorite console is no longer #1.... and no longer dictating the type of games being developed.