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[SimonGosejohann]

Thanks to the Smart Delivery. This is massive!

this is fucking HUGE. did sony confirm anything of this? will we get the PS5 VERSION if we buy the ps4 version for example?

 

[DeepEnigma]

I agree with them, why did everyone buy Skyrim 5 times? Fools.

With the same bugs each and every time.

 

[Shin]

what the actual fuck

Ikr, 12TF was what I've wanted for 3+ years now for next-gen, but RDNA2 on top of that is like icing on the cake.
Let's see about their SSD and memory solution since they are mum on that, 4 more months till E3.

 

[Ristifer]

Thanks to the Smart Delivery. This is massive!

Today's a good day.

 

[policestationx]

Tom Warren, Brad Sam, Digital Foundry, and GitHub.

 

[Shmunter]

How can PS5 only be using 1.0 when sony has said many times that it's built right into the hardware? This is an RDNA 2.0 Feature. Period.

Could be custom raytracing paired with 1.0

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Oh shit! xboxmister was right?
Mark Sony i think has lost this time
9Tflops vs 12Tflops looks bad..

I’ll be really disappointed if all Sony can come up with is 9tf. It’s almost impossible for me to believe they would let the gen start that gimped.

 

[PPIMystaceus]

Question - 120fps is nice , but how will screen Hz work over HDMI ( on a PC you can only get high refresh rates on DVI not HDMI - what happens on a console ? )

HDMI 2.1 supports 120Hz

 

[angelgs90]

This could be my first XBOX console, very impressive numbers indeed

 

[RaptorGTA]

So..about that price?

*starts checking the bank account.*

 

[Shin]

Today's a good day.

Yes it is, cuz there haven't been anything juicy as of late.
Good that someone dropped some new info, timing is perfect.

 

[Tripolygon]

That is one beast of a machine. Definitely more powerful than a RTX 2080s. Microsoft is not playing.

 

[SimonGosejohann]

Ikr, 12TF was what I've wanted for 3+ years now for next-gen, but RDNA2 on top of that is like icing on the cake.
Let's see about their SSD and memory solution since they are mum on that, 4 more months till E3.

yeah I thought RDNA 2.0 is way too good to be true. I mean RNDA 2.0 isn't even out yet, it wasn't even fully unvealed for PC by AMD.
Finally we truly have a monster as a console, a console that can even challenge PCs!

 

[Sussoloc]

Gosh, i really hope Sony has at least 11,5 TF or the next 10 month will be like "But the games, but the games, but the games".

 

[pulga]

Thanks to the Smart Delivery. This is massive!

BASED CDPR

 

[dolabla]

Microsoft coming back in full force this upcoming gen. So awesome to see. Really hope Sony doesn't screw it up.

 

[policestationx]

Thanks to the Smart Delivery. This is massive!

This is a game changer

 

[MoreJRPG]

Sony’s in big trouble. Expect a delayed launch and coronavirus as the convenient excuse while they continue to rework the underpowered machine.

 

[Shin]

*starts checking the bank account.*

 

[LittleBusters]

Does power even matter? Look at Switch sales.

 

[policestationx]

Digital Foundry once again has shown why they're the real deal of the industry.

 

[Lionel Richie]

Does power even matter? Look at Switch sales.

Switch doesn't have a direct competitor.

 

[leo-j]

Very happy about the smart delivery, hopefully other console people follow. Imagine having bought FF VII for ps1 only to have to re buy it for ps4?! Ridiculous.

 

[icerock]

Was always confident it was going to be 12TF even though plenty tried to over-interpret Spencers statement about 'double the power of X'

The biggest takeaway is RDNA2, that's a megaton for me. Hopefully, they put on a full on reveal soon.

 

[KlickKlack]

And so much more?

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/02/Xbox_ShortBullets_JPG.jpg

Damn, they even confirm RDNA2 (confirming Github leak once more)!!!

• Next Generation Custom Processor: Xbox Series X is our most powerful console ever powered by our custom designed processor leveraging AMD’s latest Zen 2 and RDNA 2 architectures. Delivering four times the processing power of an Xbox One and enabling developers to leverage 12 TFLOPS of GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) performance – twice that of an Xbox One X and more than eight times the original Xbox One. Xbox Series X delivers a true generational leap in processing and graphics power with cutting edge techniques resulting in higher framerates, larger, more sophisticated game worlds, and an immersive experience unlike anything seen in console gaming.
• Variable Rate Shading (VRS): Our patented form of VRS empowers developers to more efficiently utilize the full power of the Xbox Series X. Rather than spending GPU cycles uniformly to every single pixel on the screen, they can prioritize individual effects on specific game characters or important environmental objects. This technique results in more stable frame rates and higher resolution, with no impact on the final image quality.
• Hardware-accelerated DirectX Raytracing: You can expect more dynamic and realistic environments powered by hardware-accelerated DirectX Raytracing – a first for console gaming. This means true-to-life lighting, accurate reflections and realistic acoustics in real time as you explore the game world.

• SSD Storage: With our next-generation SSD, nearly every aspect of playing games is improved. Game worlds are larger, more dynamic and load in a flash and fast travel is just that – fast.
• Quick Resume: The new Quick Resume feature lets you continue multiple games from a suspended state almost instantly, returning you to where you were and what you were doing, without waiting through long loading screens.
• Dynamic Latency Input (DLI): We’re optimizing latency in the player-to-console pipeline starting with our Xbox Wireless Controller, which leverages our high bandwidth, proprietary wireless communication protocol when connected to the console. With Dynamic Latency Input (DLI), a new feature which synchronizes input immediately with what is displayed, controls are even more precise and responsive.
• HDMI 2.1 Innovation: We’ve partnered with the HDMI forum and TV manufacturers to enable the best gaming experience through features such as Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) and Variable Refresh Rate (VRR). ALLM allows Xbox One and Xbox Series X to automatically set the connected display to its lowest latency mode. VRR synchronizes the display’s refresh rate to the game’s frame rate, maintaining smooth visuals without tearing. Ensuring minimal lag and the most responsive gaming experience.
• 120 fps Support: With support for up to 120 fps, Xbox Series X allows developers to exceed standard 60 fps output in favor of heightened realism or fast-paced action.

• Four generations of gaming: Our commitment to compatibility means existing Xbox One games, including backward-compatible Xbox 360 and original Xbox games, look and play better than ever before. Your favorite games, including titles in Xbox Game Pass, benefit from steadier framerates, faster load times and improved resolution and visual fidelity – all with no developer work required. Your Xbox One gaming accessories also come forward with you.
• Smart Delivery: This technology empowers you to buy a game once and know that – whether you are playing it on Xbox One or Xbox Series X – you are getting the right version of that game on whatever Xbox you’re playing on. We’re making the commitment to use Smart Delivery on all our exclusive Xbox Game Studios titles, including Halo Infinite, ensuring you only have to purchase a title once in order to play the best available version for whichever Xbox console they choose to play on. This technology is available for all developers and publishers, and they can choose to use it for titles that will be release on Xbox One first and come to the Xbox Series X later.
• Xbox Game Pass: In addition to games from across four generations of consoles, our leading game subscription service, Xbox Game Pass, will continue to have our first party games, like Halo Infinite, included at their launch. We look forward to millions of you experiencing the Xbox Game Pass portfolio and immersing yourselves in a deep library of high-quality games, playing those you love now and also discovering your next great adventure.

i showed this post and Twitt my XboxX

now it has 2TF more...

 

[Shin]

Does power even matter? Look at Switch sales.

Nintendo is the exception, their 1st party tiles probably? sell more than other platform holder.
Wouldn't want them to sacrifice everything that made them what they are today for anything else.
If everyone is doing the same then who's doing something different, at least that's my opinion and it's better for every player involved and how they learn from each other.

 

[policestationx]

Does power even matter? Look at Switch sales.

Do Sony and Microsoft have 5 games that sold over 16M units on the market and shipped 167M units 1st party software under 3 years?

 

[Bladed Thesis]

this is fucking HUGE. did sony confirm anything of this? will we get the PS5 VERSION if we buy the ps4 version for example?

I'm sure Sony will do the same. CDProjekt just needs to wait on Sony's announcement... like the rest of us.

 

[Shmunter]

Would be extremely disappointing if this is a $700 box tho with a severely gimped $399 mass market unit still under wraps.

 

[Evilms]

so with 12TF the xbox series x gpu is equivalent of rtx 2080 ~ rtx 2080 super ?

Finally, jason schreier wasn't wrong when he said that the PS5/XSX would be superior to the 2080.

 

[Shin]

I'm sure Sony will do the same. CDProjekt just needs to wait on Sony's announcement... like the rest of us.

Yeah a la enhancements for Witcher 3, the messaging was the same until Pro was announced.

 

[policestationx]

Nintendo is the exception, their 1st party tiles probably? sell more than other platform holder.
Wouldn't want them to sacrifice everything that made them what they are today for anything else.
If everyone is doing the same then who's doing something different, at least that's my opinion and it's better for every player involved and how they learn from each other.

Nintendo 1st party published games have shipped over 167M units under 3 years.

That alone is impossible for PS5 or XSX to replicate.

 

[Vawn]

Impressive.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

so with 12TF the xbox series x gpu is equivalent of rtx 2080 ~ rtx 2080 super ?

People should probably start adjusting their price expectation accordingly. 399 isn’t happening, not for XsX anyway

i am all for the power but the cost of this is going to be sky high, i think 600 bucks is an underestimate, i can see it being 800 for all that kit. I mean what does a 2080 cost now?

Bingo

600 would be a bargain

 

[Shmunter]

so with 12TF the xbox series x gpu is equivalent of rtx 2080 ~ rtx 2080 super ?

Maybe in raw numbers. But a closed unit with dma ssd should yield in results punching way above It’s weight category.

 

[sircaw]

i am all for the power but the cost of this is going to be sky high, i think 600 bucks is an underestimate, i can see it being 800 for all that kit. I mean what does a 2080 cost now?

 

[Shin]

so with 12TF the xbox series x gpu is equivalent of rtx 2080 ~ rtx 2080 super ?

That's the funny part, AMD hasn't announced Navi 20 (Big Navi as it's called these days in the media) yet, IIRC it's supposed to happen at SIGGRAPH / Computex.
Can't compare it to anything in all honesty, console vs. PC/MAC + an architecture that's not even out yet, hell it might even go against Amphere - who knows.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Remember when the Weasel Sneak Fuck got shit for this?

 

[PPIMystaceus]

Thanks to the Smart Delivery. This is massive!

Todd Howard vehemently disagrees with this assessment.

 

[Kazekage1981]

Bravo Microsoft. This puts me at ease. Just few things remaining:

1) How much AVAILABLE RAM for games. It must be 16 GB minimum available (not total)
2) How much bandwidth of GDDR6 RAM? Rumors indicate close to 600 GB/sec, hoping ideally be close to 800 GB/sec
3) Wifi 6? I am thinking yes.

 

[Butz]

Really interested in what Playground is capable of creating with these specs, they're by far Microsofts best studio when it comes to visuals.

 

[Ristifer]

Todd Howard vehemently disagrees with this assessment.

CDPR does what Bethesdon't.

 

[HolyTruth]

i am all for the power but the cost of this is going to be sky high, i think 600 bucks is an underestimate, i can see it being 800 for all that kit. I mean what does a 2080 cost now?

~$1000.

but well, that’s why there is series S.

 

[New Yorks Finest]

This is a game changer

It is!! for all of us. Now a definite purchase in Sep on X without waiting for SeX version to drop., automatic upgrade

 

[TheAmazingSpiderMan]

Gotta love the shots fired at Sony and their communication.

"At Xbox we value being open and transparent with you"

either way, this thing is going to be beast.

 

[Paulxo87]

Could be custom raytracing paired with 1.0

Occam's razor suggests RDNA2.

 

[policestationx]

It is!! for all of us. Now a definite purchase in Sep on X without waiting for SeX version to drop., automatic upgrade

They're not playing around with tv crap this time.

 

[bRacing]

I agree with them, why did everyone buy Skyrim 5 times? Fools.

Because Nintendo wouldn't honor my 360 purchase! Damn you, Nintendo!

 

[DeepEnigma]

Because Nintendo wouldn't honor my 360 purchase! Damn you, Nintendo!

They honored the same bugs though, so you good!

 

[Orta]

Very, very nice looking piece of hardware. The onus is now on Sony to at least match that, one would assume brand loyalty will win the day for the PS5 but the 360 proved MS can get it right. It sounds like they're not going to be outpriced by Sony either, I imagine MS can afford to take a bigger hit than Sony on hardware?