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Microsoft Resets Cheaters' Gamerscores

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sneaky77

Member
PnCIa said:
Eh, why don´t they just ban them? They took the risk and deserve an appropriate answer :lol
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Because they are not cheating in a way that affects online multiplayer games, those people do get banned.
 
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kirbutashi

Member
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acm2000

Member
jakershaker said:
Thats not a good example at all. It's the chipped console that gets them banned, not the fact that they use copied games. A chipped console with original games is still enough to get banned. MS can't see what kind of disc you have in your xbox, just that it's chipped.
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wrong, non stealthed discs are what got detected, they seemingly cant detect the firmware mod itself, just unstealthed games, voltage differences etc
 
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exfixate

Member
Stinkles said:
I'm scared I'm gonna get busted.
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You would, take solace in the fact you're the only person in the world to be labeled a cheater with your hilarious amount of gamerscore.

Why so low? :lol

(Mine is only marginally more than yours, it's k mang.)
 
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Deleted member 22576

Unconfirmed Member
Wait, if you use someone else's gamesaves it automatically gives you their achievements?
I didn't even know such a peripheral existed, I mean it's like a modern Dexdrive, right?
 
Truespeed

Truespeed

Member
I’ve heard of other players getting banned. Why don’t you just ban these gamertags?
We believe in players reforming themselves, which is why gamerscore correction only applies to previously earned achievements. This allows these players to earn achievements like other “fair” players without having to get banned from LIVE. However, any user who violates the LIVE Terms of Use is subject to having their gamertag banned.
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Reforming themselves? No, these aren't criminals. They're cheaters and they cannot be reformed. It's just how they go through life. They're either cheating at something or scamming someone. That's how it is.
 
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woodchuck

Member
At first, I thought, what's the big deal. These people are obviously losers if they have to cheat to get a higher gamerscore, but it's not like them getting a higher gamerscore affects me?

then i remembered about some gamerscore contest. so fuck them.
 
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KTallguy

Banned
Cheaters should be banned from using any kind of online game, in my book. Especially those who buy extra hardware/equipment.
 
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Beer Monkey

Member
I'd say most of the hardcore cheaters will be done with 360 at this point even though they aren't banned. They'll move along to some other underhanded hobby.
 
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Master

Banned
Wow, I have an urge to ignore everybody in this thread that feels the need to let me know that "Gamerscore is useless" or that they "don't care about Gamerscore". How about you guys leave the people alone that think it is neat and stop posting in threads about how much you "don't care" about it? Usually when people don't care about something they don't seek out threads and post that they "don't care".

*sigh*

Good show by the Xbox team BTW.
 
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Mefisutoferesu

Member
I don't know how I feel about this, I mean, what if there's just some weaksauce gamer who's having trouble with a game and wants to enjoy it to the fullest (they paid for it, they should be able to), so they use some cheat to unlock all the special items or costumes or whatever in the game, and naturally because MS's has forcibly tied the gamerscore system to the games they'd be in violation of this, even if they didn't care about their GS since all they wanted was to check out the XYZ item or make them game easier on them or whatever. Online is obviously different, but the issue is still a problem for single player games...
 
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drohne

hyperbolically metafictive
ice cold. they'll lop off your e-peen, but they'll still take your money. you've got to figure most of these people will start a second gold account -- I MEAN ITS NOT LIKE THEY'RE IRRATIONALLY OBSESSED WITH THEIR E-CRED OR ANYTHING

it's funny to see these people get screwed, but this seems like a pretty harmless form of cheating. microsoft's course of action kind of reinforces the whole pissing contest mentality that inspired these folks in the first place.
 
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Wonderdog

Member
I guess I've never run across a Gamescore cheater, but kudos to Microsoft for cracking down on them. The less cheaters, the better. At the end of the day, though, find it funny that MS is spinning this as being strictly the cheaters' fault. Exploits are only there because MS hasn't fixed them. Maybe it's about time they not only banned the cheaters, but also fixed their service so it won't keep happening.
 
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djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
I think this is a great idea but at the same time, I don't get the impetus for wanting to cheat to bolster gamerscore... it's not like there are any real-world, tangible rewards for having high gamerscore.
 
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McLovin

Member
Wow good for Microsoft. No sympathy for online cheaters! I think online cheating is worse then piracy. At least with piracy they can't go online and mess with you. But cheaters just F*ck everyone over.
 
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woodchuck

Member
djtiesto said:
I think this is a great idea but at the same time, I don't get the impetus for wanting to cheat to bolster gamerscore... it's not like there are any real-world, tangible rewards for having high gamerscore.
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this is the only reward i could think of: http://xbox.about.com/b/2007/02/07/microsoft-announces-gamerscore-rewards.htm

i dont much about that contest, but i know that these people probably cheated before and after the contest. i have no idea why they do it.
 
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Ranger X

Member
Truespeed said:
Reforming themselves? No, these aren't criminals. They're cheaters and they cannot be reformed. It's just how they go through life. They're either cheating at something or scamming someone. That's how it is.
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lol "reforming" isn't exclusive to criminal. It just means to set yourself straight. Way to read deep into nothing buddy.
 
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Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Haha, I can't wait for the inevitable "MS cleared my gamerscore but I never cheated, WTF!!11" posts
 
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Christine

Member
King_Slender said:
Every company is interested in keeping every customer.
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Not even remotely true. Many companies have policies and initiatives specifically designed to discourage and get rid of undesired customers. If you're unprofitable or even less profitable than another customer you might be displacing in time or space, the company would rather not keep you as a customer.
 
Haunted

Haunted

Member
norinrad21 said:
Good, cheaters disgust me. A while a go, i played someone cheating on Tetris DS online, could you believe that?
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Did he get all I blocks? I've encountered people like that. Pretty amazing to cheat at Tetris.
 
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mollipen

Member
DoctorWho said:
Do you really think they would go online? If you treat your paying customers like this, you're likely not to keep them. They'll likely migrate to another service that is... free.
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Spammers in WoW are paying customers, yet funny enough, I don't give a damn about them being branded as spammers and treated like animals. Being a paying customer doesn't suddenly entitle you to do whatever the hell you want.
 
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Choke on the Magic

Banned
McLovin said:
Wow good for Microsoft. No sympathy for online cheaters! I think online cheating is worse then piracy. At least with piracy they can't go online and mess with you. But cheaters just F*ck everyone over.
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Sorry McLovin, but piracy is probably worse. Gamerscores aren't worth money. I pretty sure it's just hyperbole though.:D
 
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skip

Member
_leech_ said:
Someone check the 1up staff.
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a) I didn't even know/care what save file cheating is.
b) no, really -- shoe does play all of those games.
c) this is hilarious. and awesome.
 
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GenericPseudonym

Banned
So MS wastes its time policing some innane pointless number, that is guaranteed to cause hell when they start wiping legitimate scores (juslt like console bricking), instead of fixing problems like their broken DRM? Awesome.
 
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Mr_Furious

Member
dream said:
I understand that Microsoft wants to keep an, uh, even playing field for dick waving contests, but permanently blocking cheaters from regaining their previously obtained achievements seems a bit draconian to me.
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Or how about people just don't cheat. I mean, come on. Is it really that hard? I'm glad the risk is extreme to help prevent cheating.
 
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Rand al Thor 19

Junior Member
Darunia said:
heh yeah, but how do you cheat by changing countries? how does it affect your gamerscore? I know far too little about how this cheating business works
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All it means is that someone in that country(Chile or wherever) recovered casinoguy's account. That's what all those astericks mean that are next to people names on mygamercard.net. The astericks signifys account traders.

I can't believe Microsoft actually did something about gamerscore cheating. They always said they would, but I never believed they do it. I've noticed the have reset 8 peoples accounts so far. It's a start but there are soooooooooooo many more cheaters. Hell, just in the top 100, there are only 10 legit players.
 
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Creamium

shut uuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
Rand al Thor 19 said:
All it means is that someone in that country(Chile or wherever) recovered casinoguy's account. That's what all those astericks mean that are next to people names on mygamercard.net. The astericks signifys account traders.
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I have an asterisk next to my flag too. It has changed on me 2 times and I only have educated guesses as to what caused it. One time I took my hdd to a friend's place and that made it change to a US flag, but this other time it changed to Brazil for no reason. This was after I recovered my gamertag.

Anyway, some of the profiles in that top 10 or 20 have an insane amount of country changes (like 170 instances in one profile), so yeah you can sniff out those cheaters pretty easily.

Hell, just in the top 100, there are only 10 legit players.
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so what you're saying is that you're the legit nr 1? :p Or, what's the gamertag of the player with the legit n°1 score?
 
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dammitmattt

Banned
Rand al Thor 19 said:
All it means is that someone in that country(Chile or wherever) recovered casinoguy's account. That's what all those astericks mean that are next to people names on mygamercard.net. The astericks signifys account traders.

I can't believe Microsoft actually did something about gamerscore cheating. They always said they would, but I never believed they do it. I've noticed the have reset 8 peoples accounts so far. It's a start but there are soooooooooooo many more cheaters. Hell, just in the top 100, there are only 10 legit players.
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Is Stallion still safe?
 
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Evander

"industry expert"
dream said:
According to Major Nelson, anyway...



I understand that Microsoft wants to keep an, uh, even playing field for dick waving contests, but permanently blocking cheaters from regaining their previously obtained achievements seems a bit draconian to me.
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Agreed.

It's fair to publically label them as cheaters, and I guess removing their gamerscore is okay, but removing their ability to utilize a part of a product that they PAID FOR is against any pro-consumer logic I believe in.
 
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Rand al Thor 19

Junior Member
Darunia said:
I have an asterisk next to my flag too. It has changed on me 2 times and I only have educated guesses as to what caused it. One time I took my hdd to a friend's place and that made it change to a US flag, but this other time it changed to Brazil for no reason. This was after I recovered my gamertag.

Anyway, some of the profiles in that top 10 or 20 have an insane amount of country changes (like 170 instances in one profile), so yeah you can sniff out those cheaters pretty easily.



so what you're saying is that you're the legit nr 1? :p Or, what's the gamertag of the player with the legit n°1 score?
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In your case you can explain it away. But like you said, you can't explain away 200+ instances for some of the people with higher scores.


Yes, I am legit. No cheating on my card. As for #1 legit, that would be Stallion83. I would be like #3 .
 
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Evander

"industry expert"
Mr_Furious said:
Or how about people just don't cheat. I mean, come on. Is it really that hard? I'm glad the risk is extreme to help prevent cheating.
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Games have always had cheat codes.

Different people want to play different ways.



I thouroughly oppose anyone cheating in online play (unless it is somehow agreed upon by all player before hand), but cheating in order to gain achievements? Who the hell gives a shit?

I think the thing that bothers me the most about it is that Microsoft is giving it legitimacy. It would be one thing if you could some how redeem your gamer-points for something, but deciding that they should have control over my personal console and the information stored on it is an overstepping of bounds. Blocking people from goin online, or even having gamercards displayed online would have been enough, without changing their personal data.
 
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Mejilan

Running off of Custom Firmware
I'm fine with these measures as long as they don't fuck over legitimate gamers after flagging false positives!
 
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