There's something about an USB remote in the description, so I guess you switch images on the mod hardware itself, not using a native Wii U GUI.
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More bad news for Nintendo: Wiikey team claims WiiU cracked.
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KojiKnight
Member
LCD screen I'd guess. That's how most of those drive emulators work. I can guarantee they didn't enable any software hacks.
Portugeezer
Member
Game Dev Tycoon: Wii U Edition.
KojiKnight
Member
Changing the drive isn't going to help if it's truly an emulator (IE, not piggy-backing off of the real DVD drive).
They'd have to change how they handle the handshake between drive and system, that would require (depending on how the handshake is handled) changing the drive and likely the mainboard as well. If it can all be changed via firmware updates, then it'd still likely require a board revision or else any software update would break older consoles (unless Nintendo had some forsight and have a means of updating the drive's firmware... but if the encryptions have already been broken on it, this would only cause owners to have to update the firmware)
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
If anything, it might just push more units in South America at least. Piracy is rampant and most buy the hardware if it can be pirated, reason why the PS2 is still pretty popular.
Portugeezer
Member
But they lose money on hardware and will fail to recoup it in the south American market.
I doubt this thing will be all that cheap, and it's an internal hardmod so it'll void your warranty. Don't think it would be worth it. failoverflow is still working on a proper softmod with homebrew and region free and all, so it's probably better to wait a while.
abstract alien
Member
Great...let the thievery begin I guess. Oh yeah, I mean back up copying in case I lose one or it's destroyed on accident :^/
Maybe online only really will be the future. Until it's hacked.
Maybe online only really will be the future. Until it's hacked.
You say that as though there's no legit use for format shifting. I want my games on an HDD but I refuse to support Nintendo's ridiculous account systems. Something like this is just what the Doctor
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TheChewyWaffles
Member
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Why would that matter if you own all your own legit WiiU games?
What's so crap about being able to take your legit bought game and backing it up?
"Only" should be enough for those who want that functionality but what exactly are you eluding to by it being a bunch of crap?
Poor people who have to illegally DL games from torrent sites then lol
I'm not really sure how else to interpret this.
Console Manufacturer Tycoon
That's exactly what he means, now with the posibility of Piracy on the console, third parties can use it as a excuse to avoid WiiU altogether.
Axispowers
Member
Get Roasted!
Mithos
Member
Oh, yeah they are almost never cheap in the beginning. I know remember the prices of GC chips and Wii chips INSANE prices.
GreenMakoEyes
Member
oh shit, lol!
There are multiple valid reasons for backing up your game discs to a hard drive that have nothing to do with piracy, including the convenience of not having to switch discs every time you want to switch games and decreased loading times.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Disappointing that it won't allow for region free.
Unless the dubious moral grounds of buying the imported game but downloading a hacked iso of it or something would be the route to that, although for whatever reason theyre saying only 1:1 disc rips work. But that may be only a matter of time or even planned obsolescence with a WiiUKey2 that allowed such things
Unless the dubious moral grounds of buying the imported game but downloading a hacked iso of it or something would be the route to that, although for whatever reason theyre saying only 1:1 disc rips work. But that may be only a matter of time or even planned obsolescence with a WiiUKey2 that allowed such things
zerokoolpsx
Member
Still not region free? At least the loading is a lot faster on backups. =/
So it seems... anyway, I found it an insult to the monkeys!
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Deleted member 125677
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Well yes, but mostly that all I want from a Wii U hack is region free play
KojiKnight
Member
Disappointing that it won't allow for region free.
Unless the dubious moral grounds of buying the imported game but downloading a hacked iso of it or something would be the route to that, although for whatever reason theyre saying only 1:1 disc rips work. But that may be only a matter of time or even planned obsolescence with a WiiUKey2 that allowed such things
It's 1:1 because games are encrypted and hashed, modifying encrypted anything without first decrypting and reencrypting breaks things quite spectacularly.
Wii games were the same way, but due to software hacks in the system itself, you could disable the hash tags or before that, use the trucha bug to fake proper signing.
abstract alien
Member
No, I say that because we both know the primary objective for most people and what it will be used for. Sure, it has benefits like physical copies that can still be played off the hdd, but seriously, how many people will use it for just that? Piracy will come from it, and there is no need to pretend like it won't.
Zabant
Member
I think everyone's missing an angle here.
Publishers like Activision might stop releasing games on the WII U because of this.
It has a low install base, and now the ability to pirate meaning more people might buy a wii u just to get the pirated versions of new games might tip them over the edge.
Publishers like Activision might stop releasing games on the WII U because of this.
It has a low install base, and now the ability to pirate meaning more people might buy a wii u just to get the pirated versions of new games might tip them over the edge.
KojiKnight
Member
It will likely devaste any chance of it making money in piracy hungry places (china, russia, spain, most of south america/central america/mexico). But then again, it likely wasn't selling well there to begin with.
Paradoxically, it may raise sales in other places... at least of digital titles. Way too early to have any good idea on it.
TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
I've yet to meet a person in the real world who hacks their consoles for anything other then free games.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
It's a modchip hack. It'll only catch on in countries where modchips flow like water. That being said there isn't much of a market for a wii u hack nor a modchip right now, so a wii u modchip wouldn't make as big of a dent as you think.
The only thing that excites me is that this might be the wedge needed to bust the scene wide open. An angle that hackers could use to test exploits to open the system more.
I knew a bunch of people who imported Xenoblade back when its release looked hopeless, so they made their systems region-free.
michaelius
Banned
"backup copies" is anti lawsuit wording for feel free to pirate games as much as you want
As long as he's never met you in real life, it doesn't change anything. His point is people say anything on the internet, but what they really do isn't necessarily the same.
Beermeister
Banned
I have to agree with you on this one.
KojiKnight
Member
Unlikely. There is nothing that it does that really benefits... The drive basically works in a bubble outside of the rest of the hardware/software so there isn't anything that can be done to it that enables any sort of homebrew work.
That said, it may work as a wedge in another way, it might force the hands of anyone who's already working on a hack to move faster. It's hard to grab internet glory if someone else beats you to it.
Marcan isn't likely to be phased by it, but he's hardly the only person that hacks consoles for a hobby.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Yeah. This is the reason they might stop releasing games. I feel like this observation ignores the current reality of third-party support that is happening right now.
Straw that breaks the camel's back perhaps though?
Me neither. And I know a guy that actually got a new 3ds just to play 3ds japan games, but nope, not hacking his wii to get import games.
Anyways the point is, as good as gaf is by not pirating anything and using this just for backups, people out there will use it for piracy, and even if it doesn't really affect sales that much, publishers can use it as a excuse to not support the WiiU.
Whatever work Nintendo do to atract 3rd parties would be useless with this thing around.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Ah ok. I was just thinking about how the 360 scene progressed. It started at learning the drivekey and being able to run backups, to being able to change or ignore flags, to being able to fakesign or ignore the signing of discs and run Linux, and from there the system was kind of broken wide open for older consoles.
But I didnt follow it extensively tbh.