BobTheFork
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Not that i'm expecting anything intelligent from the WH but get who ever said that on camera and make them explain how the group of people was more violent then the car that hit them.
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Nazis felt loved by Trump's statement on Charlottesville
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SonicXtreme
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the 'witch hunt' was referring to someone who went through months of my posts to make it sound like I voted for trump, support racism or homophobia. it had nothing to do with the topic dude. the positivity I suggest is to stop hating one another and let everyone live in peace. rather than telling people on neogaf that the US is a bad country to spend a few years abroad in. it's a great place overall. no immigrant should be scared of a cop.
TumblingHippo
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Witches are way past cool.
Ignorance over Nazis and hateful cops is not.
Ignorance over Nazis and hateful cops is not.
Sonic Sez: Punch a Nazi!
RPGCrazied
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And that is why he said it the way that he did. These people make up a good portion of his base. He goes to hard on them, he loses them and his political future is over.
Dark Cloud
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Jesus Christ you're telling people who want to stop evil to leave the evil people alone. You're pathetic.
'Oh the complacency!'
This is why nothing gets fucking done about white supremacists and literal fucking Nazis walking down the streets of America.
Are you fucking serious!
Yeah, stop hating on fascists and white supremacists guys, let them live in peace!
Sorry man, I think you're too naive about this.
Messofanego
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That's you projecting, no one was saying you were homophobic or whatever, just you giving Trump the benefit of the doubt was a bit suspect. Why shouldn't non-whites be scared of American cops? When racist cops kill black people, most of them don't get jailed. There's institutional racism within the police, and they'll protect their own. Good cops don't last long and are told to shut up when speaking of corruption and other injustices inside. When it's left to minorities having to out injustices within cops rather than coming from the good cops, you know it's not just a case of most cops being good and only a few rotten apples being reported in the news.
Your patriotism is blinding you to the facts.
NeoZeedeater
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Canada, New Zealand, and Australia for English speaking countries.
The guy was sued by the government decades ago for bigoted rental practices. Dude has a history of doing and saying racist things.
Blood Diamonds
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People like you are honestly the reason this country is dying
plagiarize
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Trump is racist. Hates black people. Has for decades. You don't even need to scratch the surface to find the proof.
When Obama got elected President it pushed him right over the edge.
Simon Belmont
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Well do you remember how they got there?
Stead Fast
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I wouldn't say you were being outed as a racist or homophobic, more that your rationalisation of Trump and his administrations' actions have glaring errors to other people on here. The LGBT military part, wherein you said that before Trump put forwards a ban is evidence enough that your reasoning is at best naive, and at worst suspect, or even an unintentional projection of your own worries about what is happening in the US and parts of Europe over the past months and years. The fact you continuously double-down on protecting the good name of the US (as if a nation so large and powerful ever needed it's name defended) comes across as sycophantic, but not without any kind of acknowledgement that a problem is brewing within it. You said "it's a great place overall." That could be said about so many first world nations. But the fact you felt the need to add 'overall' tells me you aren't blind to the fact police brutality and inequality in the eyes of the law isn't a myth.
Why are you fighting this? Do you honestly think blindly praising a severely faulty system - a system with the potential to do great harm to the people of America, will accomplish anything? A system that is; lagging to deal with at best, complicit at worst, with the kinds of hateful, xenophobic, fascist-worshipping actions of groups like the alt-right and the Trump administration. Does being positive solve this?
I'll put it to you a second time: Remind me of a single case in human history where ignoring this kind of hate and bigotry got a society out of a problem.
Finale Fireworker
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The problem you are having is that you feel safe and therefore think everyone should feel safe.
This incredible self-absorption, that somehow your experience in this country is more accurate that the millions of Americans who feel and fear otherwise, is your own undoing. This sheltered moderacy is selfish, naive, and will likely someday embarrass you.
People are dying in the streets. If you live in the wrong place, you are in danger. If you decide to take a stand, you do so with great risk. All the while, people like you insist that our anxiety is merely overstated and things aren't as bad as it seem.
Stand in front of a crowd of 19 people run over by a white nationalist and tell them they should feel comforted that this hardly ever happens. Tell them how great their country is. Remind them that this new era of violence and fear, the status quo for an ever-growing population of terror victims, shouldn't be getting them all in a twist.
Stop underestimating our enemies just because they're not at your door. I don't know anything about you, or your life, or what you've gone through, but you sound like every small-minded white teen who insists that all cops are heroes and America is the best country in the world just because something bad has never happened to them.
It's not all about you. Please do not downplay what is happening around you until it overtakes you.
Rockin' Ranger
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He was busted for not renting to black people once and then caught doing it afterwards, was upset at having a black accountant working for him, demanded New York reinstate the death penalty to kill innocent minority teenagers, and was the public head of the racist movement claiming Obama isn't a citizen.
But of course he's not really a racist...
Don't be absurd, the man is racist as hell.
He's also a misogynist, narcissist, and juvenile.
And he's the President of the USA.
SonicXtreme
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I hear u, but all in all, I don't think a random guy who's contemplating spending a few years here is going to run into a situation where a cop mistakenly shoots him, or lets something illegal happen to him unpunished. as long as you're following the law, you're probably going to have a fine time in the USA no matter what colour you are.
Canada, New Zealand, and Australia are great I'm sure, but I'd argue the diversity you'd encounter is greater here and worth the slight chance you'll run into a tragedy like this.
This is about systemic oppression which is constant and forever if you're a poc.
Imagine being too afraid to call the police in a situation where you needed them because you might be shot. This happens often enough where poc live with this fear, regardless of what the stats say.
It doesn't matter that most poc won't experience these tragedies first hand. That these things happen so often affects them deeply, and your post is reductive of that.
This entire fucking government is a neo-nazi haven.
And time after time, you have been proven incorrect. Time to wake up to the fact that America has a dangerous plague on its peoples, racism.
Remember when the Klan showed up to rallies? People just came for fried chicken and wore sheets to cover their faces and bodies. These new neo nazi monsters and white supremacists are not afraid for people to see their face - and why should they be. The president of the united states deliberately fails to denounce them.
Lightning_Roller
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......he literally wanted 8 black kids to get the death penalty. And still wanted that. And like someone said before, he had fucked up rental practices. I don't know how else to tell you Trump is racist as fuck. Oh wait I know, he got so mad a black man who is better than him in every way throw shade at him, he became president not only to prove him wrong, but to stamp out that black man's legacy. One fucked up law at a time.
No, I'm sure he is overtly racist.
A) His father was deeply racist and their brand has a history of undisguised, court-settled levels of discrimination. That is the environment he was born, raised, and trained in.
B) Racism is much bigger than cross-burning and slurs. He believes fundamentally in maintaining a system that is built squarely on white supremacy without even the slightest acknowledgement that centuries of oppression just might have disadvantaged minorities in today's climate.
C) He literally went as far out of his way as possible yesterday to absolve and excuse white protestors, labeling themselves as Nazis, from any kind of blame. That's not an accident. These are the people he only wishes he could support more openly, and as he becomes more comfortable in his position, probably will.
If you're looking to catch Trump in a Klan uniform, you probably won't, but there is pretty much no definition of "racist" that he doesn't (in several ways) adhere to.
RPGCrazied
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Yikes. This guy almost became director of Homeland Security. This guy is messed up.
I'm saddened and completely at a loss for words at the situation. Not in my wildest dream would I have imagine the potus supporting Nazis or that Nazis would have the audacity to do this so openly. What's worse is the tame reaction from friends and the media only indicates this will get worse. It's especially difficult to tell those that support violence that it isn't an answer and will only give validation to their opponents; when I see no solution forming or on the horizon.
How can people be so fucking blind to history? Not even a century later and the cycle continues.
Didn't take sides. - bc maybe its OK to side with Nazi's. Give peace a chance lol.
TheLostBigBoss
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Time to invest in baseball bats
The only way to fight this with a government that outright supports them is to make them afraid to gather publicly.
1.21Gigawatts
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wtf is wrong with her?
CreepingFear
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With the revolving door that is Trump white house, don't be so sure that he doesn't end up in some position at some point.
Does someone want to explain to Sheriff Clarke that the Nazis he's defending would send him to the ovens if given the chance?
Calling for us to listen to the very people who would lynch her and the people she loves given the chance.
Disgusting
CreepingFear
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Isn't she a right wing born again loon?
Edit: I know one of King's kids is. Can't recall which.
Simon Belmont
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Total collapse of society 😥
SoulUnison
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I told a friend about this before the election and his response was: "I can understand why he'd do that - blacks lower property values."
I chalked it up as an off-color joke, but now I'm not sure.
Recently had a conversation with the same guy about some issues and he honestly considers the extreme right to be "equally toxic" as the far left. Apparently jingoistic xenophobia is the same as overzealous idealism because "compassion is toxic" and makes us "helpless children."
I'm so disappointed, and I don't know what to do beyond simply not interacting with this individual anymore after what I thought was a pretty good decade-long friendship.
……forgetit
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Pretty sure she's from the fucky side of Kings family. We all have one of those, the cousin with the Confederate flag belt buckle.
1.21Gigawatts
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Niece... still... wow.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Nah, he's one of the Good Ones .
……forgetit
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Looking through the thread, looks like the right are bringing out their collection of prob black people again.
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