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Nazis felt loved by Trump's statement on Charlottesville

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SilentRob

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quite the counterpoint. so you're saying someone who is intrigued by living in the US for a few years, perhaps going to school here....should stay at home and not do it? or choose to live abroad elsewhere? Please tell me of a country that is better for an immigrant to live in for a few years than the USA.

How about any country with working health Care and guaranteed insurance? So...any other first-world country basically?
 
Plenty of European countries, although hate crimes are rising even there but not to the levels of USA. At least a country that doesn't have 300 million guns in possession by citizens and racist police who aren't afraid to use it on any non-whites.

police in the USA are freaking fantastic and keep the average citizen incredibly safe. it doesn't matter if a racist criminal is a cop or unemployed, if he's going to do something bad, he's going to do something bad. the police force in the USA is great and most definitely keeps as many immigrants safe as they do regular natives. idk just my thoughts, some cops can be dicks but all in all I feel like few places are safer than the US, unless you live in Detroit you can have a cop show up within minutes at most when needed.
 
Next what, book burning? Can they even read?

Book burning, at it's core, is about the controlled destruction of creativity and intellectualism. Books are the expression of differing thoughts, ideologies and histories, and text is still the single most effective means of arming a person with the intellect to judge right from wrong as they come across any given situation - like, say, seeing Hitler as a dictator rather than a revolutionary.

False news is book burning in a more fluid, insidious form. It burns any and all credibility to second-hand information, credibility that took centuries of integrity to reach an even passing status to the general public.

They're already book burning. They just don't need to set fire to paper anymore. Just news.
 
police in the USA are freaking fantastic and keep the average citizen incredibly safe.it doesn't matter if a racist criminal is a cop or unemployed, if he's going to do something bad, he's going to do something bad. the police force in the USA is great and most definitely keeps as many immigrants safe as they do regular natives. idk just my thoughts, some cops can be dicks but all in all I feel like few places are safer than the US, unless you live in Detroit you can have a cop show up within minutes at most when needed.

LMAO
 

shaneskim

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Holy shit 😂
 

FStubbs

Member
One of the the three of four guys at the front of that iconic tiki torch rally picture posts Holocaust denial stuff on his twitter. He snapped a selfie with trump and is mates with baked alaska. There is a reason trump is careful not to say anything that would get him tossed out of their tent.

Doesn't this just expose it all?

Trump is only ever tactful, careful, and strategic about what he says when one of two things are involved:

1. Russia
2. White supremacists

He's blunt and tactless and moronic on anything else. Hmm.
 
police in the USA are freaking fantastic and keep the average citizen incredibly safe. it doesn't matter if a racist criminal is a cop or unemployed, if he's going to do something bad, he's going to do something bad. the police force in the USA is great and most definitely keeps as many immigrants safe as they do regular natives. idk just my thoughts, some cops can be dicks but all in all I feel like few places are safer than the US, unless you live in Detroit you can have a cop show up within minutes at most when needed.
Are you white?
 

Supast4r

Junior Member
He's a racist. He's been an overt racist *his entire life*. He took out a full page add in newspapers calling for the killing of 5 black men accused of a terrible crime in Central Park, and when they were exonerated with DNA evidence he said they must have done something anyway and he didn't believe it and they should still be punished. He believes all black people live in ghettos. He was literally sued by the government for being racist in how he rented apartments to people (guaranteeing no black people in Trump complexes) - twice! He was sued successfully for being racist towards black staff in his casinos. His testimony on native Americans and casinos is disgustingly, blatantly racist.

Why is it hard for people to accept Donald Trump is racist? He's been doing and saying racist stuff for over 30 years. His organizations have been sued for racism successfully many times - and all of that is linked directly to him.
This right fucking here
 
I'm not quite sure how explaining that spite voting is a very serious issue and that throwing fire into flames doesn't help anybody equates with hand waving.....nor how explaining that immigrants who do their due diligence should have no fears about coming to the US because of stories like this but, you are clearly not capable of discussing things and are blinded by your hate, so enjoy your assumptions.

I'm quite sure that you spend more time being upset with people who are angry at Trump, than literally anything Trump does.

It's not an assumption that you're a sympathiser. It's in your posts.

You only mention Trump in your posts when you're:
-talking about how this forum is obsessed with his handshakes
-arguing that unemployment numbers at the end of Obamas last terms are a lie
-arguing that the media is only focusing on negatives (I.e. Literally #fakenews)
-being upset that a Trump supporter got beat up
-replying to people who post negatively about Trump supporters

I searched your user name against the word "racism". Zero hits. You can speak out against #fakenews and be disgusted by a Trump supporter getting beat up, but when racists march, commit acts of terrorism and beat counter protesters...*crickets*.

You ain't had shit to say about this entire Charlottesville thing. The only thing you felt you needed to respond to in a thread (or entire political event) about racism was someone saying they don't feel like they want to travel to the USA due to recent political events. Oh and the played out "don't be talking shit about Trump supporters or you'll REALLY make them racist" line.

Why pretend like you don't have a thing for Trump? What's the point?
 

dan2026

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police in the USA are freaking fantastic and keep the average citizen incredibly safe. it doesn't matter if a racist criminal is a cop or unemployed, if he's going to do something bad, he's going to do something bad. the police force in the USA is great and most definitely keeps as many immigrants safe as they do regular natives. idk just my thoughts, some cops can be dicks but all in all I feel like few places are safer than the US, unless you live in Detroit you can have a cop show up within minutes at most when needed.
Aren't you supposed to add the /s at the end?
Otherwise we might think you are being serious.
 
How about any country with working health Care and guaranteed insurance? So...any other first-world country basically?

Agreed, and perhaps one that isn't, at the top level, actively rewinding any and all progress made towards preserving the well being of the planet itself for the next few generations; generations said immigrant is going to live through and potentially have a family live through. Or a country that isn't actively stifling some of the most advanced minds it can produce in science from continuing their research as it goes against the White House administrations agenda. Or a country that isn't allowing campuses from descending into hate riots by allowing right-wing propaganda go unchecked.
 

RinsFury

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police in the USA are freaking fantastic and keep the average citizen incredibly safe. it doesn't matter if a racist criminal is a cop or unemployed, if he's going to do something bad, he's going to do something bad. the police force in the USA is great and most definitely keeps as many immigrants safe as they do regular natives. idk just my thoughts, some cops can be dicks but all in all I feel like few places are safer than the US, unless you live in Detroit you can have a cop show up within minutes at most when needed.

My head hurts after reading this.
 
I think it's time to accept diplomacy and engagement has completely and utterly failed.

For too long it's been a case of "engage them and prove them wrong" and it's bullshit. The engaging has led to a rise in Nazis in both the UK and USA because they're not engaging, they don't want to listen, they want to play the Nazi and then act like their rights are being eroded when called on it.

We didn't crush the Nazi scum in World War II only to allow them to talk their way in to power, same as they did in Germany.
 

CCS

Banned
Taken from reddit:

This IS Trump's side.

Trump's endorsers:
Andrew Anglin, Publisher of the neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer
Matthew Heimbach, founder of a white nationalist group; the Traditionalist Worker Party.
Rocky J. Suhayda, chair of the American Nazi Party
Don Black: Former KKK grand dragon and founder of the white supremacist website Stormfront
Brad Griffin, writer for the white nationalist blog Occidental Dissent
Peter Brimelow, the founder of the extreme anti-immigration Vdare.com
Earl Holt, the president of the Council of Conservative Citizens
Jared Taylor, who runs the site American Renaissance
John Friend, far right radio show host, Holocaust denier.
Richard B. Spencer, the president of the white nationalist National Policy Institute
Alex Jones: birther, 9/11 truther, infowars
White Supremacist, former Klan leader David Duke
Hal Turner, white nationalist, holocaust denier, radio host
William Johnson, Leader American Freedom Party- US citizenship if 'no Negro blood'
Kevin MacDonald, Editor of the white nationalist website the Occidental Observer
Charles C. Johnson, 'professional troll' and 'race realist', banned from Twitter over threats to BLM
White nationalist leader James Edwards.
Rachel Pendergraft, National organizer for the KKK-affiliated Knights Party
Alex Linder: Vanguard News Network, former member of the Neo-Nazi National Alliance
Vanguard News Network: "Trump is the Last Hope for Whites before America turns brown"
 
I'm quite sure that you spend more time being upset with people who are angry at Trump, than literally anything Trump does.

It's not an assumption that you're a sympathiser. It's in your posts.

You only mention Trump in your posts when you're:
-talking about how this forum is obsessed with his handshakes
-arguing that unemployment numbers at the end of Obamas last terms are a lie
-arguing that the media is only focusing on negatives (I.e. Literally #fakenews)
-being upset that a Trump supporter got beat up
-replying to people who post negatively about Trump supporters

I searched your user name against the word "racism". Zero hits.

You ain't had shit to say about this entire Charlottesville thing. The only thing you felt you needed to respond to in a thread (or entire political event) about racism was someone saying they don't feel like they want to travel to the USA due to recent political events. Oh and the played out "don't be talking shit about Trump supporters or you'll REALLY make them racist" line.

Why pretend like you don't have a thing for Trump? What's the point?

You forgot this gem by SonicXtreme's claim that Trump has been for LGBT rights all the time:

he's been supportive throughout his campaign, people love digging up straw men to induce more needless hate

how? He has been supportive of lbgt rights. i'm sure the people around him will try to push him the other way. he's clearly not a homophobe, obviously his party tries to push him on their shitty agendas but its never seemed like he's made it a focal point to really push that fuckery

he uses everything to stroke his own ego so i didn't see a reason to consider that a red flag imo
 
police in the USA are freaking fantastic and keep the average citizen incredibly safe. it doesn't matter if a racist criminal is a cop or unemployed, if he's going to do something bad, he's going to do something bad. the police force in the USA is great and most definitely keeps as many immigrants safe as they do regular natives. idk just my thoughts, some cops can be dicks but all in all I feel like few places are safer than the US, unless you live in Detroit you can have a cop show up within minutes at most when needed.

You feel like few places are safer than the US. Have you ever been out of the US?
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Is there some reason why Nazis are free to spread hate and literally the message of a regime that Americans and their allies lost millions of lives fighting to get rid of?

I mean, I'm sure if ISIS sympathisers wanted to do marches up and down the roads wearing military gear and assault rifles, mowing down opposing marches, beating opposition protesters with large sticks and bats, there might be some kind of national and international reaction?

Is there something about the KKK and Nazis stopping America from taking the normal steps to deal with terrorist organisations?

We basically interpret the first amendment as meaning "It's okay to advocate for genocide, as long as you don't actually do it!"

That's how much we've neglected to account for the power of words in our interpretation of the law.
 

zeemumu

Member
Someone once told me that if everybody likes you then you're doing something wrong. I always took that as meaning that if pieces of shit like this like you then you fucked up somewhere down the line.
 
Why WHY W H Y is there even such a thing as hate for people that aren't white?
Who the fuck cares about color? It's just a color. Nothing more.

On the inside we look the same.
Mankind is stupid as fuck.
 
police in the USA are freaking fantastic and keep the average citizen incredibly safe.

Then I guess all those black people I saw saying they wouldn't call police for help out of fear from the police and incarceration rate statistics that show extremely unproportional high rates for blacks are lying?

it doesn't matter if a racist criminal is a cop or unemployed, if he's going to do something bad, he's going to do something bad.

That's what fucking police training is for, to teach the officers and weed out racist people for the job. You're right though that it's not as a huge difference as in other countries, as in the US every fucking idiot can run around with weapons, not only the police.

Seems like police training in the US is pretty bad.

the police force in the USA is great and most definitely keeps as many immigrants safe as they do regular natives. idk just my thoughts, some cops can be dicks but all in all I feel like few places are safer than the US, unless you live in Detroit you can have a cop show up within minutes at most when needed.

Please. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1410366

Edit: Oh and I see you're one of those guys who believe Trump stands for lgbt rights because he hold a flag once? Please explain to me why the military ban on transgender people is standing for lgbt rights.
 
He's a racist. He's been an overt racist *his entire life*. He took out a full page add in newspapers calling for the killing of 5 black men accused of a terrible crime in Central Park, and when they were exonerated with DNA evidence he said they must have done something anyway and he didn't believe it and they should still be punished. He believes all black people live in ghettos. He was literally sued by the government for being racist in how he rented apartments to people (guaranteeing no black people in Trump complexes) - twice! He was sued successfully for being racist towards black staff in his casinos. His testimony on native Americans and casinos is disgustingly, blatantly racist.

Why is it hard for people to accept Donald Trump is racist? He's been doing and saying racist stuff for over 30 years. His organizations have been sued for racism successfully many times - and all of that is linked directly to him.

pretty much.
 

opoth

Banned
Why WHY W H Y is there even such a thing as hate for people that aren't white?
Who the fuck cares about color? It's just a color. Nothing more.

On the inside we look the same.
Mankind is stupid as fuck.

It's always been about swaying the weak-minded away from being angry at the people that they should be angry at - rich people who look just like them.
 
I think it's time to accept diplomacy and engagement has completely and utterly failed.

For too long it's been a case of "engage them and prove them wrong" and it's bullshit. The engaging has led to a rise in Nazis in both the UK and USA because they're not engaging, they don't want to listen, they want to play the Nazi and then act like their rights are being eroded when called on it.

We didn't crush the Nazi scum in World War II only to allow them to talk their way in to power, same as they did in Germany.
Sorry, but the Soviet Union did that. Kiev, Narva, Kursk, Kharkov, Smolensk, etc.

And if I remember, the german Heer P.O.W.s were allowed to go out to places where black people could not go. Racism on the U.S comes a long way and it shows today. Glad where I live racism is very low to zero.
 
Edit: Oh and I see you're one of those guys who believe Trump stands for lgbt rights because he hold a flag once? Please explain to me why the military ban on transgender people is standing for lgbt rights.

.....you realize that post was made, oh I don't know, BEFORE the military ban....?

idk, I guess I'm not psychotic enough to dig through people's post histories and bestow hindsight onto them to prove a completely irrelevant point to the topic at hand. I'm sure you can find some posts of mine from 2 years ago stating how no mans sky is going to be game of the year and throw those in my face too. godspeed dude. people are dying and we need more positivity in this world over witch hunts. I still believe in this country and encourage any and all to join us. not everyone here is a racist fuck who's going to shoot or run over random people. most cops and citizens here are great people.
 

chaosyn

Member
I think it's time to accept diplomacy and engagement has completely and utterly failed.

For too long it's been a case of "engage them and prove them wrong" and it's bullshit. The engaging has led to a rise in Nazis in both the UK and USA because they're not engaging, they don't want to listen, they want to play the Nazi and then act like their rights are being eroded when called on it.

We didn't crush the Nazi scum in World War II only to allow them to talk their way in to power, same as they did in Germany.

This. There's no reasoning with Nazis or their enablers. There is no middle ground or debate when it comes to human rights. Any "allies" out there who feign concern that "lashing out against hatred and bigotry will just push reasonable centrists to Trump" can park it with that shit as far as I'm concerned. It's nothing but a transparent attempt to silence the oppressed, either for nefarious reasons or simply because you don't want to deal with the inconvenience of the situation.
 
.....you realize that post was made, oh I don't know, BEFORE the military ban....?

idk, I guess I'm not psychotic enough to dig through people's post histories and bestow hindsight onto them to prove a completely irrelevant point to the topic at hand. I'm sure you can find some posts of mine from 2 years ago stating how no mans sky is going to be game of the year and throw those in my face too. godspeed dude. people are dying and we need more positivity in this world over witch hunts. I still believe in this country and encourage any and all to join us. not everyone here is a racist fuck who's going to shoot or run over random people. most cops and citizens here are great people.

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.....you realize that post was made, oh I don't know, BEFORE the military ban....?

idk, I guess I'm not psychotic enough to dig through people's post histories and bestow hindsight onto them to prove a completely irrelevant point to the topic at hand. I'm sure you can find some posts of mine from 2 years ago stating how no mans sky is going to be game of the year and throw those in my face too. godspeed dude. people are dying and we need more positivity in this world over witch hunts. I still believe in this country and encourage any and all to join us. not everyone here is a racist fuck who's going to shoot or run over random people. most cops and citizens here are great people.

What 'witches'? The very real rise in Nazism? The growing trend in hate-speech enablers? What positiveness do you suggest? Because unless it is something breathtakingly genius it will only equate to 'burying our heads in the sand' to the problems growing around us.

Remind me of a single case in human history where ignoring this kind of hate and bigotry got a society out of a problem.
 
.....you realize that post was made, oh I don't know, BEFORE the military ban....?

idk, I guess I'm not psychotic enough to dig through people's post histories and bestow hindsight onto them to prove a completely irrelevant point to the topic at hand. I'm sure you can find some posts of mine from 2 years ago stating how no mans sky is going to be game of the year and throw those in my face too. godspeed dude. people are dying and we need more positivity in this world over witch hunts. I still believe in this country and encourage any and all to join us. not everyone here is a racist fuck who's going to shoot or run over random people. most cops and citizens here are great people.

Weird how I'm not an American and still saw this coming. It's almost as if the Trump administration was always very transparently anti-lgbt and only posed with a flag for show.

The rest of your post is "not everyone here is bad, so that post about not wanting to go to the US is nonsense". And you didn't even engage any of the other points.

Nice standards there. It's perfectly understandable for somebody not wanting to go to the US. In comparison to other first world countries it just really isn't a good place to be, especially for minorities.
 

cameron

Member

I was initially gonna guess Sebastian Gorka, but it could easily be any one of the senior staff in the WH.

.....you realize that post was made, oh I don't know, BEFORE the military ban....?

idk, I guess I'm not psychotic enough to dig through people's post histories and bestow hindsight onto them to prove a completely irrelevant point to the topic at hand. I'm sure you can find some posts of mine from 2 years ago stating how no mans sky is going to be game of the year and throw those in my face too. godspeed dude. people are dying and we need more positivity in this world over witch hunts. I still believe in this country and encourage any and all to join us. not everyone here is a racist fuck who's going to shoot or run over random people. most cops and citizens here are great people.

lol, verbal diarrhea.
 
The US fought the Nazis because they declared war to USA first, it was never a question of USA disliking Nazism. After WW2 USA was the biggest sponsor of fascism in the world.
True and false. The U.S was already using lend-lease with the UK in 1940; also the embargo on oil to Japan was to make sure that Germany was going to declare war, because with a Barbarossa victory there was nothing stopping Sea Lion from happening. Also, the war effort would resolve the problems of 1929.
 

Red

Member
This happened at a protest rally and is in no way shape or form normal for anything that happens in the country on a day to day basis. i wouldn't recommend anyone ever go to any sort of rally/protest such as this for this exact same reason, no matter what colour you are, there is just nothing to be gained from shouting things over and over like a zombie. there are tons of ways to protest that don't involve large congregations of angry people.
I hope your naïveté is remedied in time.
 

L Thammy

Member
What 'witches'? The very real rise in Nazism? The growing trend in hate-speech enablers? What positiveness do you suggest? Because unless it is something breathtakingly genius it will only equate to 'burying our heads in the sand' to the problems growing around us.

Remind me of a single case in human history where ignoring this kind of hate and bigotry got a society out of a problem.

If this is like a witch hunt, the difference is the witches are real, and are exactly as evil and hostile as believed.

Although in reality the "witch hunt" shit is as ridiculous as "many sides" here. What the witches are doing here is far more grave and dangerous than any "hunt" that they try to criticize.
 
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