Dude before the weekend gaf was Uber left to a point where any deviation was villified. I stand for equal rights and support a 2 state solution in Israel and because I support Israel was told I was a terrible person.
Gaf was not exactly a great place to discuss nuance.
Don't bother. I've been asking for receipts and nobody can/will provide any.
Yeah there have been a few assholes that have gotten banned. But I don't seen real evidence that GGers or the alt-right have descended in droves or taken over, or anything of the sort.
This is to counter the hyperbole that anyone who remains and the mods as varying degrees of Nazism or Nazis, as expressed by a recent Mashable article.
I'm a minority and needed no such assurance but I do not lean on a worldview that anything short of absolute isolation from potential discomfort, is a form of persecution.
Can you point out specific examples? I want to know what you mean by people defending him. I feel like we have different standards and I want to see where you're coming from.
Yes, there is been some changes. Yes, there is been probably some trolling/comments here and there. Obviously, after so many mods leaving this will happen.
But no, it's not to the level you are claiming, GAF is not some bigot haven or something.
Yep a thread made to show support for minorities turned into a thread about the victimization of conservatives and evil SJWs. Tells you all you need to know about the current state
I think this whole blowup has been a teachable moment. I have definitely learned a lot and my ideas have changed. If we don't include everyone, our community is irreparably harmed.
Yep. The statement in the OP is false, everyone can see it. There's a reason Black Culture GAF, GirlGAF,TransGAF,LGBTGAF, AsianGAF communities all noped out of here
Fun fact: my first username on GAF (18 years ago) was Gaymer. I remember being asked in a thread why would I choose such a name, and when I replied that I was gay some folk were surprised/did not expect that kind of openess (I may have been the first gay GAFer to "come out") but the overwhelming sense I got was of support, and in all the years since then I never felt the slightest bit of concern about disclosing or talking about my sexuality here nor did I receive any negativity or hostility because of it.
GAF has always been a very gay friendly place from day one.
I genuinely don't get the intention of that thread creator.
that person has been here since 2006 and has 2000 posts which isn't a lot, but it still an active account
was he planning on leaving to protest malka? is the TC one of the people that are planning to go to that new website? was he always just another hate-filled person who was an active user?
I wouldn't think that's representative of the remaining users who still want to participate in healthy discussion? especially since all those users are going to be banned...
Indeed, what I have been reading today has been terrifying. I think it's time for me to walk away for now, and maybe revisit GAF tomorrow to see if things have changed. It's just too distressing for me right now.
I genuinely don't get the intention of that thread creator.
that person has been here since 2006 and has 2000 posts which isn't a lot, but it still an active account
was he planning on leaving to protest malka? is the TC one of the people that are planning to go to that new website? was he always just another hate-filled person who was an active user?
I wouldn't think that's representative of the remaining users who still want to participate in healthy discussion? especially since all those users are going to be banned...
For all of Evilore's talk about hating gamergaters, he really is allowing them to take root so quickly. Heck, we got people defending Boogie by doing whataboutisms about people who supposedly taking the moral highground staying here.
It's complete shit.
Evilore has much bigger problems than a mass exodus of community members.
Yep. The statement in the OP is false, everyone can see it. There's a reason Black Culture GAF, GirlGAF,TransGAF,LGBTGAF, AsianGAF communities all noped out of here
I genuinely don't get the intention of that thread creator.
that person has been here since 2006 and has 2000 posts which isn't a lot, but it still an active account
was he planning on leaving to protest malka? is the TC one of the people that are planning to go to that new website? was he always just another hate-filled person who was an active user?
I wouldn't think that's representative of the remaining users who still want to participate in healthy discussion? especially since all those users are going to be banned...
He is the exact opposite of the people that will go the new website. Have you not read the shit he said? Dude basically attacked every community that is going to the new website.
They've seen the kind of discourse that is happening now. They've seen the kind of douches that raided their Discord groups and spammed gore and porn everywhere, as well as doxxing attempts. They've seen what kind of members have popped up lately.
Do feel free to label all those big communities as "leftists SWJs that can't handle opinions" that kind of thinking is pretty good and oh so very positive.
Fun fact: my first username on GAF (18 years ago) was Gaymer. I remember being asked in a thread why would I choose such a name, and when I replied that I was gay some folk were surprised/did not expect that kind of openess (I may have been the first gay GAFer to "come out") but the overwhelming sense I got was of support, and in all the years since then I never felt the slightest bit of concern about disclosing or talking about my sexuality here nor did I receive any negativity or hostility because of it.
GAF has always been a very gay friendly place from day one.
I literally joined because my go-to game forum back in the day did not allow for sexual orientation discussions, and this was because the few they allowed turned nasty, and this was a pretty decent forum with decent members. Times have greatly changed since then but even then the gaming community as a whole is terrible, GAF has always been the better one regarding LGBT gamers, even in this complicated transition that I have no idea where it will take us and with an overabundance of trolling, nasty behavior and lack of enough moderators to check everything, and it is still better than what is out there.
Because these people play games and make games too. Their representation and/or lack of representation in games and in the industry are important topics. Seems like that kind of discussion isn't what GAF is about anymore so I won't be here much longer.
He is the exact opposite of the people that will go the new website. Have you not read the shit he said? Dude basically attacked every community that is going to the new website.
They've seen the kind of discourse that is happening now. They've seen the kind of douches that raided their Discord groups and spammed gore and porn everywhere, as well as doxxing attempts. They've seen what kind of members have popped up lately.
Do feel free to label all those big communities as "leftists SWJs that can't handle opinions" that kind of thinking is pretty good and oh so very positive.
I guess I'm just concerned that users like that who have already been dealt with on here are going to find their way onto the new board. I did see what he said which is why I'm concerned about the new community since it seems like a lot of the garbage on here is finding its way out the door. the guy was already banned which is a plus.
I guess it just boils down to the screening process for the new site since I'm more concerned with an individual like that moving to the new forum when he's already been dealt with.
@BernardoOne: Is there something I've said that leads you to believe I would label those big communities as such?
Yep. The statement in the OP is false, everyone can see it. There's a reason Black Culture GAF, GirlGAF,TransGAF,LGBTGAF, AsianGAF communities all noped out of here
Any idea where they went? I liked gaf because of all the different backgrounds its users came from. If it ends up being a bunch of 20something white guys it's not gonna be much different than any other gaming forum.
The best part about forums is that you don't have to read or post in every thread, and one thing I liked about GAF is that there were threads that supported all sorts of groups that let people have their own spaces away from people who would rather talk shit.
Whether or not GAF was more respectful or more restrictive, etc... that is your own perception and is subjective. A forum is nothing without its posters and the kind of attitudes that are tolerated here is dependent on the userbase.
The sad irony of this thread turning into another argument is saddening and hopefully is just a bunch of emotions that will die down as people choose what corners of the internet they would prefer to spend their time with.
People don't stop being people because of video games and if you think video games are devoid of social commentary, or even politics, you don't pay attention to the games you play.
Any idea where they went? I liked gaf because of all the different backgrounds its users came from. If it ends up being a bunch of 20something white guys it's not gonna be much different than any other gaming forum.
They went to their respective discords and are waiting for Resetera to open. Hell, most communities in general are doing that. Even SportsGAF, in general, MoviesGAF,DCGAF, etc etc. The gaming communities are also doing the same. DestinyGAF,SteamGAF,BestFriendsPlayGAF,GiantBombGAF. Almost every long standing community has mostly noped out of here.
The dumb "hurr durr this forum should be for gaming only" really don't realize how much of GamingGAF isn't willing to stand the current shitshow.
I know it's very hard for you to imagine, but women/racial minorities/lgbt play videogames too, it isn't exclusive to you. It honestly shows how completely and utterly ignorant you are, considering there are plenty of games that have those exact subjects, not to mention actual game developers consider such talks to be pretty important, which is there is actual industry talk about it.
Anyway OP, even if you haven't figured out by now that all the communities with diverse backgrounds have left or in the process of leaving, you have about 23 pages worth of evidence on why your statement is wrong,
They went to their respective discords and are waiting for Resetera to open. Hell, most communities in general are doing that. Even SportsGAF, in general, MoviesGAF,DCGAF, etc etc. The gaming communities are also doing the same. DestinyGAF,SteamGAF,BestFriendsPlayGAF,GiantBombGAF. Almost every long standing community has mostly noped out of here.
The dumb "hurr durr this forum should be for gaming only" really don't realize how much of GamingGAF isn't willing to stand the current shitshow.
Do you have *various*GAF in some clipboard just ready to paste or are you typing all this out every time you post this exact same thing in almost every post? Because if you're typing it out, man you've got fingers of steel!
People don't stop being people because of video games and if you think video games are devoid of social commentary, or even politics, you don't pay attention to the games you play.
it's funny because the majority of the games I spend my time with don't appear to have any of that. Of those my favorite is progear. there really isn't any story or meaningful dialogue displayed while you're playing afaik.
Now I said don't appear, but if you really dig deep, the plot which is possibly included in some rare promotional material is:
Sometime in the past, the people of the country of Parts had found a way to become immortal, but only with elderly nobles. Five of these elders—Ballossum Pench, Gabriel Hammer, Jimchuck Spanner, Olsorro Slasher, and Leonard Drill—obtained immortality, and became known as the Motoruin sages. Eventually, they attempted to take over the Parts kingdom and start a new world order, collapsing the government and destroying parts of the country in the process. As their plans unfold, five children of one of these villages decide to battle the Motoruin using another new invention: the semi-automatic propelling engine, known as "Progear".
kind of nuts. anyone watching someone else play it would never be able to gather that plot info, but it's there..
Compared to the research on gender stereotyping, fewer studies have examined racial stereotyping in video games.[12]
In a 2009 survey of 150 games across nine platforms, University of Southern California Professor Dmitri Williams "found that fewer than 3 percent of video game characters were recognizably Hispanic and none were playable. Native Americans and biracial characters were non-existent. African Americans enjoyed a rate of 10.74 percent, with a big caveat; they were mostly athletes and gangsters."[3][13] In a study that examined the top 10 most-highly rated games for each year from 2007-2012, Ithaca College graduate Ross Orlando found that "black and Asian characters each have 3 percent representation in the pool of main protagonists; Latino a mere 1 percent."[14]
As a lighthearted poster (and a person in general) I always felt my username put a smile on most people's face the past six. years... But to be honest, I haven't felt that good about it since these events this week.
And it doesn't help that I am getting harassed by some ignorant people here for it as well. (like I quoted above)
So to answer your question, Yes I do, but in a much, much smaller scale.
it's funny because the majority of the games I spend my time with don't appear to have any of that. Of those my favorite is progear. there really isn't any story or meaningful dialogue displayed while you're playing afaik.
Now I said don't appear, but if you really dig deep, the plot which is possibly included in some rare promotional material is:
Sometime in the past, the people of the country of Parts had found a way to become immortal, but only with elderly nobles. Five of these eldersBallossum Pench, Gabriel Hammer, Jimchuck Spanner, Olsorro Slasher, and Leonard Drillobtained immortality, and became known as the Motoruin sages. Eventually, they attempted to take over the Parts kingdom and start a new world order, collapsing the government and destroying parts of the country in the process. As their plans unfold, five children of one of these villages decide to battle the Motoruin using another new invention: the semi-automatic propelling engine, known as "Progear".
kind of nuts. anyone watching someone else play it would never be able to gather that plot info, but it's there..
You don't always have to audio or written commentary about either subjects.
They're called video games for a reason. Its is a visual medium, and people will always relate to the characters they see on screen. Player characters, NPCs, etc.
We need to build a wall to stop Off-Topic refugees from bringing their problems over here. We didn't have any issues with women/minorities/LGBT representation in video games before they came here.
We need to build a wall to stop Off-Topic refugees from bringing their problems over here. We didn't have any issues with women/minorities/LGBT representation in video games before they came.