Cheebs said:then thats over 80% of the american population as a whole. Even nearly every democrat voter fits that.
Right, which is exactly why I can't find a non-Christian Republican
Cheebs said:then thats over 80% of the american population as a whole. Even nearly every democrat voter fits that.
or a democrat for that matter, unless it is over the internet.Juice said:Right, which is exactly why I can't find a non-Christian Republican
What if they're looking at a young male model at the time? Then it's an important moral issue!JayDubya said:I don't know which one of them is least capable of maintaining an erection.
I don't want to know.
Cheebs said:or a democrat for that matter, unless it is over the internet.
Personally, I never thought they were very close to Libertarians. They talk like it sometimes with 'fiscal responsibility' rhetoric but the GOP have always been hugely pro-deficit in their actual actions.Juice said:To your point, the principles have shifted so dramatically, that Ron Paul is no longer a potential Republican. Libertarians used to be a stone's throw away, and now they're miles and miles away.
I think the Republican principles people really see are social: on abortion, stem cell embryo destruction, gay marriage, faith-based charity funding, school vouchers (really just public funding for fundamentalist Christian schools), war on terror as a proxy war against Islam, the Constitution as being a platform for adding on evangelical axioms.
You take all of that horse shit and then you add on a huge lack of desire for military/intelligence transparency and pro-corporation fiscal-conservative leanings and you have what defines the Republican party.
Not gonna happen.timmy said:My prediction is that Clinton will win Nevada and I will cry into my cereal.
speculawyer said:Personally, I never thought they were very close to Libertarians. They talk like it sometimes with 'fiscal responsibility' rhetoric but the GOP have always been hugely pro-deficit in their actual actions.
Nixon wasn't libertarian at all. He was rather big govt.Juice said:Even pre-Reagan?
Goldwater was relatively Libertarian but I'm only considering the GOP in our voter lifetimes.Juice said:Even pre-Reagan?
Goldwater was the last one. In 1964! It's been 44 years since libertarians had any sway in the GOP. Libertarians have just as much power today in the GOP that southern racist dixiecrats have in the democrat party.speculawyer said:Goldwater was relatively Libertarian but I'm only considering the GOP in our voter lifetimes.
exactly. nixon enacted more 'liberal' economic policies than anyone before him. he opened trade with CHINA.Cheebs said:Nixon wasn't libertarian at all. He was rather big govt.
speculawyer said:Goldwater was relatively Libertarian but I'm only considering the GOP in our voter lifetimes.
Juice said:Right, which is exactly why I can't find a non-Christian Republican
Wow. Stockholm syndrome to the max.Gamecocks625 said:Dude, they're around. Visit any unversity...well in the south at least.
Cheebs said:Yet another primary Obama is built up by the media to win
Cheers, thank you! Another late night for me then!Cheebs said:its roughly 10 AM eastern. Results around 5. so yeah 7 hours.
No, just his campaign can't survive if he loses. Everyone says he *NEEDS* to win it. He is behind on Feb 5th states and needs a huge boost to get caught up. SC wont do that since he is expected to win by wide margin for weeks now. (Not to mention Jesse Jackson won SC in 88 and John Edwards in 2004, it didnt help them)sangreal said:Are you just trying to set GAF up for disappointment?
yeah, my reading is that Hillary will likely win.sangreal said:Why do you keep saying that? I've seen it several times now but I don't think its true. They are even in the polls and most of the talking heads on the news have given Hillary the edge due to her support from Harry Reid's son.
Republican Mitt Romney wins Nevada's caucuses, AP reports
Actually, that may be the other reason they ignored that state . . . NV has a relatively strong Mormon population so maybe everyone just assumed Romney would win.scorcho said:because SC is the gateway to the South.
so far the AP and MSNBC have blew their proverbial wad and declared Romney the winner in NV.
speculawyer said:Why is it that the GOPer candidates have largely campaigned in SC despite the fact that Nevada has MORE DELEGATES?!?!?
From its inception in 1980 through the election of 2000, the winner of the South Carolina Republican presidential primary has gone on to win the nomination.
Ah . . . I see the 'southern strategy' is alive and well in the GOP. OK . . . that is definitely the reason.Stoney Mason said:First state to secede! but also this.
It represents the Southern plank of the Republican party which is the base for it.From its inception in 1980 through the election of 2000, the winner of the South Carolina Republican presidential primary has gone on to win the nomination.
Yeah, I find it pretty amazing that they can call it that quick.Juice said:If Romney already won Nevada, does this mean that all caucuses end in 1.5 hours??
Vgamer said:
MassiveAttack said:??? It's not there.
It was just a headline at the top of the page. It is the AP that called NV for Romney.MassiveAttack said:??? It's not there.
PhoenixDark said:wtf Romney won already?
Juice said:MSNBC is saying that Ron Paul probably came in second. Holy shit. Nevada really does have a few libertarians.
Cheebs said:er..you realize romney and paul were the only two candidates who were in the state at all right?
caucus's really don't work like that. Candidates who actually go into the state and have precinct captains can control the voters.Juice said:I still thought name recognition would help one of the nationally leading reps would beat him out. It just shows that the Rep field is really chaotic.
:lol Well his name is 'Bill Richardson' . . . can you get any more white than that? Perhaps Bob Roberts? Or John Roberts?Stoney Mason said:lol. Poor Bill Richardson. They just said on CNN most Hispanics didn't realize Bill Richardson was hispanic. The ultimate irony.
YES! The Mittamorph and Ron Paul! W00t!thefro said:Anyway... it looks like Ron Paul is going to BEAT McCain for 2nd if the exit polls hold
Cheebs said:caucus's really don't work like that. Candidates who actually go into the state and have precinct captains can control the voters.
sounds good.thefro said:Per CNN, HUGE African-American turnout in Vegas for Obama, and huge Culinary Worker turnout for Obama.