Greatness Gone
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LOL at people suggesting Diablo III on consoles. Do you know about hotkeys? How the fuck else am I supposed to use my potions quickly so I won't die?
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I'm sure Diablo III is Project Hydra but the fact that it has been in development for so long doesn't mean squat about it being as far along as we would like to think it is. We already know multiple versions of Diablo III were in development for quite awhile and were all quietly axed. Hey maybe that's why they call it Hydra. 
Don't I wish! Keep in mind guys, when Blizzard said they wanted the "public" part of their development cycle to be shorter, that's in contrast to what was something like a 5-7 year wait for Diablo II from its initial announcement to its release. I was there and it was agonizing. Just agonizing. 2.5 years for Diablo III would be nothing in comparison.
2010 sounds like a good initial projection for release but they'll bump it back. As long as this every-other-year expansion thing keeps up for WoW it makes sense to have their big blockbusters in the off years. I mean we saw zippo from Blizzard in 2006. Now that their release cycle seems to be ramping up a bit I bet that's what we'll see.
Also keep in mind they want a 10 year cycle for WoW1 (at least) so WoW2 isn't going to happen anytime soon. Graphical upgrades, sure, we already know they are looking at that, but its successor is a ways off.
Honestly I'm hoping that once they've revealed Diablo III and they have all their major ips out there for us to drool over they'll finally be comfortable revealing a new ip. Wishful thinking though but there's a lot of that going around this thread so whatever.
Minsc said:
Don't I wish! Keep in mind guys, when Blizzard said they wanted the "public" part of their development cycle to be shorter, that's in contrast to what was something like a 5-7 year wait for Diablo II from its initial announcement to its release. I was there and it was agonizing. Just agonizing. 2.5 years for Diablo III would be nothing in comparison.
2010 sounds like a good initial projection for release but they'll bump it back. As long as this every-other-year expansion thing keeps up for WoW it makes sense to have their big blockbusters in the off years. I mean we saw zippo from Blizzard in 2006. Now that their release cycle seems to be ramping up a bit I bet that's what we'll see.
Also keep in mind they want a 10 year cycle for WoW1 (at least) so WoW2 isn't going to happen anytime soon. Graphical upgrades, sure, we already know they are looking at that, but its successor is a ways off.
Honestly I'm hoping that once they've revealed Diablo III and they have all their major ips out there for us to drool over they'll finally be comfortable revealing a new ip. Wishful thinking though but there's a lot of that going around this thread so whatever.
Cirekiller
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Also looking forawrd to seeing a revamped B.NET. Make friend lists and game invites simpler.
TheOneGuy said:
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Indication?
Also was there really a point between US East and US West being seperate?
:lol Im central and still have no idea which one would be best.
Blizzard Battle Arena!
Includes characters from:
Warcraft
Starcraft
Diablo
Blackthrone
The Lost Vikings
Rock n' Roll Racing
RPM Racing
Guest Starring from Mageslayer by RavenSoft (A Subgroup from Activision Blizzard)
The Warlock
The Arch-Demon
The Inquisitor
The EarthLord
Includes characters from:
Warcraft
Starcraft
Diablo
Blackthrone
The Lost Vikings
Rock n' Roll Racing
RPM Racing
Guest Starring from Mageslayer by RavenSoft (A Subgroup from Activision Blizzard)
The Warlock
The Arch-Demon
The Inquisitor
The EarthLord
Lathentar said:
You'd need 4 separate hot keys for 4 separate belt slots, hotkey for secondary weapon change, hotkey for run, hotkey for town portal, ALT hotkey to view all dropped items, shift hotkey for holding ground and on my Paladin that I'm playing through now...
Hotkeys for...
Holy Shock
Lightning Resist
Conviction
Redemption
Teleport (Enigma Armor
)Holy Freeze
Defiance
and at least a few more...
It would be so sluggish, not to mention how hard picking up all the drops would be after a 30 person battle.:lol
Proelite said:
The lead up is pretty similar so far:
"There's no way it's <insert sequel to Blizzard franchise>."
"It's probably just some WoW crap."
"It's World of <insert Blizzard franchise>!"
"This is going to be disappointing!"
etc
I'm certain the final delivery will be just as epic.
InsertCredit
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A little OT, but what the heck.
Is it already possible to register diablo2 keys at you blizzard account?
And if so, is it also possible to register keys that come with the cheap combo (d2+lod) package? I can't find my original discs anywhere and am considering dropping by the gamestore first thing tomorrow.
Talk about a hypefest.
Is it already possible to register diablo2 keys at you blizzard account?
And if so, is it also possible to register keys that come with the cheap combo (d2+lod) package? I can't find my original discs anywhere and am considering dropping by the gamestore first thing tomorrow.
Talk about a hypefest
.InsertCredit said:A little OT, but what the heck.
Is it already possible to register diablo2 keys at you blizzard account?
And if so, is it also possible to register keys that come with the cheap combo (d2+lod) package? I can't find my original discs anywhere and am considering dropping by the gamestore first thing tomorrow.
Talk about a hypefest
You should be able to register them but they aren't available for download yet.
Torquill
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Hotkeys and spells are easy (granted this is rough 5 second idea)
Hotkeys = L1 + Dpad buttons and face buttons
Spells = R1 + Dpad buttons and face buttons
That'll give you around 8 hotkeys and 8 spells on most controllers.
Keep in mind most of you are designing this around Diablo II, not Diablo III. We have no idea what other stuff would be invovled and whether we'll need more or less hotkeys than last time.
I'm pretty confidant they're talented enough to come up with a controller scheme for the game if they wanted too. I don't think the controller issue would be the one and only reason they wouldn't make a console version.
Hotkeys = L1 + Dpad buttons and face buttons
Spells = R1 + Dpad buttons and face buttons
That'll give you around 8 hotkeys and 8 spells on most controllers.
Keep in mind most of you are designing this around Diablo II, not Diablo III. We have no idea what other stuff would be invovled and whether we'll need more or less hotkeys than last time.
I'm pretty confidant they're talented enough to come up with a controller scheme for the game if they wanted too. I don't think the controller issue would be the one and only reason they wouldn't make a console version.
Minsc
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Torquill said:
Yea, you can get a surprising number of hotkeys on a controller these days, but keeping in line with Diablo 2's needs, the controller fails at selecting extremely specific parts of the screen multiple times each second.
I wonder which classes they'd bring back and which skills too, I can't imagine they'd repeat too many of them, would take out a lot of the fun of trying out new builds.
Why not put D3 on PS3/360 and just require Keyboard/mouse. They should do the same with a WoW console port too.
PS3, at least (not sure on 360), has native KB/Mouse support in the OS... Of course MS and Sony would probably shit a cow if any company tried to require that -- you'd think a dev with some clout (like blizzard) would be able to pull it off, if anyone could.
That's the only way I'd want it on a console (and I secretly hope it happens).
If they don't put it on consoles, then I'll have to buy a laptop... it would feel like such a waste to spend hundreds on a single game -- I hate playing games on my PC... such a sucky experience compared to sitting on my couch with my HT setup.
Diablo 3 is about the only game at this point that could make me buy a new computer to play it.
PS3, at least (not sure on 360), has native KB/Mouse support in the OS... Of course MS and Sony would probably shit a cow if any company tried to require that -- you'd think a dev with some clout (like blizzard) would be able to pull it off, if anyone could.
That's the only way I'd want it on a console (and I secretly hope it happens).
If they don't put it on consoles, then I'll have to buy a laptop... it would feel like such a waste to spend hundreds on a single game -- I hate playing games on my PC... such a sucky experience compared to sitting on my couch with my HT setup.
Diablo 3 is about the only game at this point that could make me buy a new computer to play it.
â Narayan
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Diablo III is NOT going to come on consoles, no matter how much you pray and hope for it to be.
Every damn thread.
Every damn thread.
Propagandhim
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U K Narayan said:
Chris Remo
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A fair observation, but Civ is turn-based. I certainly can't do everything as fast as I can do it on a PC with a mouse, but it's okay, because I don't have to. They also stripped away a LOT of what the series had gained over the years to do it. That's fine with me, because it's a console-exclusive and they tailored it to the platform. I have no complaints at all, and the game is great.Dorfdad said:
But to make a multiplatform Diablo would have very different implications. The bottom line is, anything other than instant-press hotkeys in Diablo would drastically change the nature of the game. Scrolling through or priming skills, then using them, simply will not cut it, period.
In Diablo, I want to have all my shit available at the drop of a hat, able to fire off three spells and chug a potion without entering a single menu, while still retaining full movement control of my character. It would be possible to create a slower-paced game instead by sacrificing those facets of control, but that's REALLY not what I want out of Diablo, and I'd be very surprised if Blizzard went that route.
Blizzard is a very conservative developer when it comes to gameplay, and they also understand what components are at the core of the visceral impact of their games. Those two properties of the studio make it seem very unlikely to me that they would alter that kind of fundamental aspect of pacing.
I just don't see any other way to do it with a console controller. I realize Blizzard's designers are a lot more inventive than I am, but I just feel that if this kind of thing were possible, SOMEBODY would have done it by now. It isn't as if other games haven't had the same issue. At the end of the day, there are only so many buttons on a console controller, and they are arranged in a very specific way.
Simply put, it's a very different type of input device to a mouse and keyboard--not better nor worse, but extremely different. Some games are designed heavily around their input mechanisms, some not as much. Diablo, with its customize-every-single-key-on-the-keyboard, map-a-dozen-spells mentality, falls into the former category.
Chris Remo
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Years of working in the gaming press has left me largely cynical and impervious to hype, but holy fucking shit I am fucking dying right now. My inevitable disappointment is going to be epic.
It's a great game, but I'm 100% done with it. The first expansion wasn't enough to bring me back in, and I don't even really want a reason to go back in, so I'm praying with every ounce of strength I have for Diablo III.
Unfortunately, there's just no way a WoW-related announcement is going to excite me.duckroll said:
It's a great game, but I'm 100% done with it. The first expansion wasn't enough to bring me back in, and I don't even really want a reason to go back in, so I'm praying with every ounce of strength I have for Diablo III.- Status