I'm in the Xbox threads quite a bit and I've yet to read that.
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New Crackdown 3 information 4K 30fps on XBX ,Amazon lists "Destructible battle arena"
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I'm in the Xbox threads quite a bit and I've yet to read that.
wesleyshark
Banned
Same. Seems to just be drive by posts
Neuromancer
Member
I was only interested in Crackdown for single player and co op so the destruction being MP only was always a non starter for me.
Wait really?
IcyRhythms
Member
They made the destruction exclusive to Wrecking Zone because it simply wasn't possible to have all of that going on with a console and hold even 30FPS.
Yearsoflurking
Member
yeah it did we learned maybe 1-2 years ago that cloud destruction would be multiplayer only. also this game has the same developers, 3 teams worked on this game. sumo does the single
This isn't really a good explanation for why the tech wasn't shown, in my opinion. I get it that the Cloud stuff is going to be for multiplayer and that there's only so much to show during the conference, but this game was announced years ago. It's a major "exclusive" release for Windows. It comes out in less than 5 months, on the same day as the Xbox One X. If Spencer had confidence in the Cloud tech (or the game in general), it would have been shown by now. Honestly, this game doesn't really inspire confidence in general based on how it's been handled up to now.
Zombie James
Banned
From the start it was said that the crazy destructibility was for the multiplayer. In a interview with Geoff the dev said they wanted to show the campaign stuff this time. Multi is where the destructibility is. Always been that way.
Edit: already covered I see
seems a pretty silly assumption given that previous Forza games were 1080/60, yet not everything on the xbone was.
Yearsoflurking
Member
sumo, microsodt, cloudgine and reagent are all still involved. the later 2 are very small group of developers
Lord of Ostia
Member
Regardless of whether or not the full-scale destruction is only in multiplayer, that doesn't change the fact that what they showed was underwhelming. From an art style perspective, animations, and gameplay perspective...it just didn't seem interesting at all.
Those people wouldn't be in tune with reality on any platform, including many higher-end PC builds. Not all rendering budgets allow for consistent 60 fps at 4K, even when you have a ton of CPU overhead. That's from a combination of engineering challenges/practicalities and high expectations for visuals when you're rendering at 4K.
MS "purposely" showed Forza among its line-up because it shows the system does handle 4K/60 in a high-end game. That's not misleading unless you're being senselessly obtuse about. It's the same way previous Forza titles on base XB1 are 1080/60, but not all other games are.
^Yup.
You mean dream.
Despite folks trying to explain technically why it wasnt going to be possible for every game.
Some games will do it, some wont.
You mean dream.
Despite folks trying to explain technically why it wasnt going to be possible for every game.
Some games will do it, some wont.
RichiRamjag
Member
I know that. I specifically commented based on the verbiage used. Arena doesn't sound like fully destructible city, but I guess we'll find out.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
Looks like a shitty version of SRIV, no thanks.
Yearsoflurking
Member
60fps will never be standard in console gaming never. some games will be 60 some won't.
Backfoggen
Banned
Just let me blow shit up
Microsoft treating this game like it's going to be a discounted title in the $30-$40 range. This is one of their only exclusives coming this year and it had no prescense on stage. I'm a crackdown fan and I've been wanting more information, but I'm really skeptical now how good this game will be. Still no real gameplay videos or information about single player or multiplayer modes and it's l releasing later this year. Also wasn't there going to be a beta?
Sadly...
No-one ever on this board thought 4k60 was going to be the case on everything.
Can we stop with this shit please.
This entire game reeks of over ambition with a core gimmick of cloud-based destruction (ala Quantum Break and episodic TV tie-in), but now that that's failed they're scrapping together what they have so it's not a complete loss. It could still turn out good, but it doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
Vire
Member
Yeah.. seems as if the development struggles and developer change for this game altered the scope and ambitions of the game.
Maybe the game is better than what they showed and I don't doubt Sumo Digital is working hard on salvaging this... but damn.
Ding ding ding.
60fps open world game? Nah CPU bound like a motha!
mysteriousmage09
Member
Senjutsusage was losing his mind right before the spec reveal saying stupid shit like "Scorpio will easily handle a game like Horizon: Zero Dawn at 4K 60fps".
what developer change?
The game didn't switch devs. Sumo has always been on the campaign. Reagent and Cloudgine have always been on the MP.
Communication has been very poor, and this stage presentation only raised more questions, but I think we need to get accurate info in the discussion.
Yearsoflurking
Member
painting one person as the entire gaf? come on. fans always overreact to hardware capabilities
LukasTaves
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nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
You're imagining things. Or rewriting history to build your narrative.
Neuromancer
Member
Speaking of SRIV, Agents of Mayhem gives me strong Crackdown vibes. Especially this recent trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZaPJeAebg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZaPJeAebg0
OK I see. Thanks.
TVexperto
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I have to say there is also no sign of the "most powerful console" in that footage. I have been excited for C3 for so many years and then they show this mediocre gameplay trailer; I seriously thought that was a joke when I watched the conference last night
Ghost Slayer
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Oh yeah I remembered this. Early Scorpio rumors were cute though, all unrealistic dreams
TheChundertaker
Member
I loved the original Crackdown but how many years ago was that? This game has been so long in development and the trailer was very underwhelming. All in all I'd be surprised if the game is actually worth such a long wait and anticipation.
1 person != Xbox GAF.
Also in his defense, thats when he will of been on the Zen/Vega hype train which if was true, he wouldn't of been wrong.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Crisis averted. Its Crackdown.
Renna Hazel
Member
Hmm? The game was shown off in the same fashion as most of the other titles and I'm pretty sure they're going to be demoing it all week. I think their conference just moves at a faster pace this year, so most games didn't get long stage demos.
I'm curious to see the full gameplay reveal, I'm expecting it to be incredibly similar to the first game.
Agent_Carnage
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Im not holding my breath for the city wide destruction anymore. Until a Dev confirms that their original vision is mostly intact then its probably gone with the wind.
Thanks. Sounds encouraging!
PackAPunchedMick
Member
Because initially it looked fucking spectacular.
Also, crackdown 1 and 2 were amazing.
Not sure what happened with the visuals though, maybe the 4k target made them dial back?
RichiRamjag
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I honestly don't know about that. Some people have been going a bit crazy when it comes to what the Scorpio would be capable of.
Im not trying to dog any one fanbase, people did it with ps4 pro and switch just the same.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
It's coming to pc.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Well, first, Crackdown 3 was announced a year and a half before Sumo's involvement was announced... and second, interesting that the trailer did not include logos for two teams that you believe are the main developers. So I guess it's totally possible that this is just a totally bizarre miscommunication, but there seems to be a far simpler explanation consistent with everything we know.