lukilladog
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Values are nothing if they do not cost you something, cancel the game.
What’s absurd is trans people expecting us to forgo science in the name of inclusion. Biological men don’t have periods nor do they give birth. Biological women don’t have penises. Does that offend you? Bad friggin luck. You were born with XX or XY chromosomes. I get that you might not like what you are and that’s fine, transition. But don’t act like you’re a male/female because you’re biologicaly not.You got it the other way around.
"People who menstruate" was not used as a descriptor for women. The idea was that it's not just women who menstruate. As in, men menstruate, women can have penises, and men can give birth - that's what she disagreed with.
So it's much more absurd than how you understood it.
That would be great but I don't see that happening in here, and I'm not talking about everyone of course, but this thread about developers feelings and hard choices keeps popping back up with continued insults from a stereotyped community. If you don't think JKR should be crucified, fine. I think it's a conversation that would require some nuance and would love to see it. People following up with dick-chopping jokes is not a defense for that woman's character.
What’s absurd is trans people expecting us to forgo science in the name of inclusion. Biological men don’t have periods nor do they give birth. Biological women don’t have penises.
I hate how Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson threw her under the bus the first chance they got. That woman made them who they are. She took them from a life of obscurity and made them all millionares. Without her there is no movies. Without her there is no game. Out of everyone involved, she is by far the smartest, most educated and most intellectual person and her opinion on this is by no means anti trans.
Not a single person in the trans community wishes to forgo "biology". "Man" and "woman" are not, in fact, biological categories. A female primate is not a "woman". A six year old boy is not a "man". These classifications exist in the intersection of biological sex and socialization.
And yet both of those end up intersecting even though they’re not technically the same thing. Biological males should not be allowed to compete in women’s sports. Even though their test is low, they still process a males endocrine, skeletal, respiratory and nervous system.Many reasonable people have doubts, for example, on whether those who transitioned should be allowed to compete in women's sports
If anybody says trans people dont have any right, then that is (lets say) not good. Every person despite their gender must have the equal rights.Don't let it get to you. For whatever reason, this topic seems like a hot button for a lot of people - almost like Resetera in reverse... You'd think trans folks burned down their house, killed their parents and murdered their puppy.
Not a single person in the trans community wishes to forgo "biology". "Man" and "woman" are not, in fact, biological categories. A female primate is not a "woman". A six year old boy is not a "man". These classifications exist in the intersection of biological sex and socialization. What the LGBTQ+ movement advocates is precisely the uncoupling of gender (a social construct) and biological sex.
You may think this is wrong. That is a moral and value judgement on your part and you are entitled to it. But one should address the LGBTQ community's position as it actually is. Many reasonable people have doubts, for example, on whether those who transitioned should be allowed to compete in women's sports. Others think people should not be allowed to transition before they come of age. We will work through these issues as a society for many years to come.
What I think most people of good faith agree on is that (1) trans people are people and deserving of the same basic respect accorded anyone else and (2) people should be persecuted based on what they look like or how they present themselves to the world.
Though I found this to be absolutely pathetic hill for JKR to die on, it was indeed quite ugly to see people she plucked from obscurity denounce her. Daniel R and Emma Watson need not agree with her and think she's a raging TERF, but my old-fashioned self thinks they at least owed her their silence. Oh well..
Tolkien is getting 'slightly' cancelled due to supposed racist undertones in his portrayal or orcs and Mordor as 'people from the East'. The Witcher IP was also criticized for not being 'diverse enough', and as such they made cast changes to Netflix series. Mind you this is the IP written by a guy in socialist Poland in the 1980s based clearly on Slavic folklore.P.S I just cant get over how we have treated one of the most progressive writers of her generation. She went out of her way to have indian characters in Harry Potter. Harry's first love interest was an Asian girl. She even retroactively made Dumbledore gay which I knew was going to blow up in her face. She is easily the best female writer of our generation, arguably the second best writer behind George R.R Martin and this is how we treat our greatest writers. Imagine people throwing Tolkien under the bus. Darwin, Dickens. People will be reading her books a hundred years from now and these idiots will have labelled her anti-trans over nothing. Millennials are by far the worst generation ever, period.
Please show me where throughout the history that conversation was across the lines of sex and gender? "Gender" is precisely not a scientific category, it is a recent development in the field of psychology, which in itself is not hard science. We were not having these types of conversations as late as 20 years ago.Not a single person in the trans community wishes to forgo "biology". "Man" and "woman" are not, in fact, biological categories. A female primate is not a "woman". A six year old boy is not a "man". These classifications exist in the intersection of biological sex and socialization. What the LGBTQ+ movement advocates is precisely the uncoupling of gender (a social construct) and biological sex.
This made me laugh thinking about developers having their revenge, but I think a trans character creation option is fucking embarassing
We are supposed to play as kids or adolescents, how much is credible a 10 yo trans? LOL
This inclusive shit is going overboard, was a normal male / female choice offensive? How will they justify that, a sex changing spell? " I want a second wand, shazam!"
Trans community is not a block where you need to subscribe and follow some rules or you're out, it's not a club, it's not a religion. That's why many trans people are really irritated by this some minor but loudy voices who pretend to represent the whole trans community.What’s absurd is trans people expecting us to forgo science in the name of inclusion.
Trans community is not a block where you need to subscribe and follow some rules or you're out, it's not a club, it's not a religion. That's why many trans people are really irritated by this some minor but loudy voices who pretend to represent the whole trans community.
Instead of call them Trans People, call them with their real name: bunch of idiots.
Game wasn’t hurt by JK Rowling it was hurt by the twitter mob.
What does it matter? Seriously why do you care what the player wants to create with more options?So they're making a game where you can create teenage transgender characters? I mean I'm fine if they were adults but teenagers? This is just fucked up and it's going too far but what do I know.
And why you do you want to create a 12 year old girl with a boy dick or a 12 year old boy with boobs in a Harry Potter game? This is a game made towards children. I said I was fine with a game like Cyberpunk doing it.What does it matter? Seriously why do you care what the player wants to create with more options?
This game is racist because you cannot play as a furry, you can play as a transgendered person, but you can't play as a sexy wolf chick. Are you fucking kidding me. Fuck those SJW those racist bastards. Fuck this game!
Not a single person in the trans community wishes to forgo "biology". "Man" and "woman" are not, in fact, biological categories. A female primate is not a "woman". A six year old boy is not a "man". These classifications exist in the intersection of biological sex and socialization. What the LGBTQ+ movement advocates is precisely the uncoupling of gender (a social construct) and biological sex.
Ok, now I know you are not arguing in good faith with that first sentence and just trolling. Goodbye.And why you do you want to create a 12 year old girl with a boy dick or a 12 year old boy with boobs in a Harry Potter game? This is a game made towards children. I said I was fine with a game like Cyberpunk doing it.
JK Rowling is a bigoted cunt for telling the obvious human biology?The fuck happened to individualism? I personally think Rowling is a bigoted cunt, but I also think she's an individual.
Looks like that guy decided to leave after the reeeeing mob went after him
Imagine calling someone a 'cunt' because she stated a few biological facts.The fuck happened to individualism? I personally think Rowling is a bigoted cunt, but I also think she's an individual. There is absolutely zero point in throwing all the developers, marketing people, managers and other fine people working on this game in front of a bus just because she's an idiot.
Jk rowling was all about canceling.We are tired and sick with the western waves of feminist and cancel culture
JK Rowling creates Harry Potter
Get out of the game project if you dont like JK Rowling or her legacy
If these guys really want to show support for these trans then cut them dicks and shut up about it
The fuck happened to individualism? I personally think Rowling is a bigoted cunt, but I also think she's an individual.
Looks like that guy decided to leave after the reeeeing mob went after him
The fuck happened to individualism? I personally think Rowling is a bigoted cunt, but I also think she's an individual. There is absolutely zero point in throwing all the developers, marketing people, managers and other fine people working on this game in front of a bus just because she's an idiot.
It's like saying that someone who's trans is now part of some group of trans people and should think and act identical to each other. They all have different opinions on things, there is not a single trans person if there's a million of 'em.
People died by the millions defending individual rights and freedoms and today we've got Twitter being some kind of singular blob of people with one kind of opinion on about everything.
Here is an idea: Quit.
Quit the studio and go make another game. Dont cash in on this supposed bigot's lifetime's work. She created this world from scratch. She is the genius. Not you.
I hate how Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson threw her under the bus the first chance they got. That woman made them who they are. She took them from a life of obscurity and made them all millionares. Without her there is no movies. Without her there is no game. Out of everyone involved, she is by far the smartest, most educated and most intellectual person and her opinion on this is by no means anti trans.
But if you think so, go ahead and quit. Dont sit there holding your dick bitching about how awful you feel. Put your money where you mouth is and leave. go make another game or work at walmart for all I care. I hate how they are trying to claim moral high ground by offering a trans character option. As if its their choice. Did JK Rowling ok this? She must have since this is her IP.
P.S I just cant get over how we have treated one of the most progressive writers of her generation. She went out of her way to have indian characters in Harry Potter. Harry's first love interest was an Asian girl. She even retroactively made Dumbledore gay which I knew was going to blow up in her face. She is easily the best female writer of our generation, arguably the second best writer behind George R.R Martin and this is how we treat our greatest writers. Imagine people throwing Tolkien under the bus. Darwin, Dickens. People will be reading her books a hundred years from now and these idiots will have labelled her anti-trans over nothing. Millennials are by far the worst generation ever, period.
That's how society works now.JK Rowling is a bigoted cunt for telling the obvious human biology?
All part of the long term goal amongst this generations mentally deranged sexual deviants to legitamize paedophilia.
Maybe you younger cunts can explain it, but what's wrong with the term transwoman and transman and leave woman and man to those of us born with the requisite parts, why the insane need to morph us all into one homogenous gloop, in all my years on this planet i've known plenty of gays (steady on stop sniggering!) a few lesbians but absolutely zero trans people.. yet the whole of fucking Twatter is dominated by the cunts
It's still absurd a guy can't work if it has its way of thinking or living"leaving"
more like he was fired.
if he was a man who has an open opinion about hating a subsection of people, I dont blame the company for letting him go.
I just want the God damn game!
That slippery slope I was told doesn’t exist for decades is now turning into a chasm of stupidity.Maybe you younger cunts can explain it, but what's wrong with the term transwoman and transman and leave woman and man to those of us born with the requisite parts, why the insane need to morph us all into one homogenous gloop, in all my years on this planet i've known plenty of gays (steady on stop sniggering!) a few lesbians but absolutely zero trans people.. yet the whole of fucking Twatter is dominated by the cunts
No they don't wonder. The ones that do that just roll round in piles of money.Does any developer/publisher ever wonder what would happen if they completely ignored the twitter mob, and just kept using feedback info from the usual focus groups?
I just want the God damn game!