:lolThat's 35 per year here in Germany, just for listening to "Xbox on". No thanks.
There's grasping at straws and there is this.
:lolThat's 35 per year here in Germany, just for listening to "Xbox on". No thanks.
Why couldn't you finish reading the whole post?
A: When it’s ready to respond to “Xbox On” it uses about 14 watts, which is about five US cents (or about four Euro cents) per day. In its lowest power state, Xbox One uses only a ½-watt, which is less than about a half a U.S. cent or one-third of a Euro cent per day.
:lol
There's grasping at straws and there is this.
What would the lowest power state behave like functionally? It wouldn't listen to Xbox On? How would you turn it on?
14 watts in "Xbox on" standby mode? That's much higher than I expected. I would have thought that they'd optimize that more.
Mind to explain what you're hinting at?
How do you turn on the Xbox 360 or PS3?
What would the lowest power state behave like functionally? It wouldn't listen to Xbox On? How would you turn it on?
Wait, does this read to anyone else as tacit confirmation that the Xbone can be out into a state where the Kinect isn't listening for 'Xbox on'?
What would the lowest power state behave like functionally? Serious question, because each of these power states should offer some sort of advantage. The "Listen for Xbox One" state's advantages are obvious, but they didn't specifically cite the advantages of the lowest power state . I'm wondering if the lowest power state they mentioned simply turns off the Kinect and allows a one-second boot up of the console when you push the power button.
Suddenly it's no longer 1=$1, eh?
Thanks for posting ekim.
I still don't understand they're so confident in the pricing. Releasing at a full hundred dollars above the competition instantly turns off lots of consumers who aren't aligned one way or another.
14 watts in "Xbox on" standby mode? That's much higher than I expected. I would have thought that they'd optimize that more.
14 Watt just for Kinect listening to exactly one command? LOL, what a waste of energy. Makes me kinda sick to calculate the amount of energy that will be wasted just by the console in standby mode. 14 Watt x 24 x 365 x 5.000.000 (installed base after a year, numbers out of my ass) = crazy energy consumption for absolutely nothing.
That's only because the PSP's CPU speed was locked at the slower speed to begin with, they didn't make it go any faster, they just unlocked the limit and let developers use its full power.Jaguar Clocks in XBone and PS4 are locked by software/firmware.
PSP CPU was locked to 222MHz at first, thanks to the scene you can use the full 333Mhz potential.
God of War was the first game that used the 333Mhz.
What is this super low power state? If in this state the Box is not answering to "Xbox On" then why is it consuming power at all? I understand the concept of a stand by mode but what is the one below that?
A 14 watt stand by power consumption would be unnacceptable there.Power consumption in stand by mode which allows reactivation must be 0.5 Watts or less
That's 35 per year here in Germany, just for listening to "Xbox on". No thanks.
14 watts is way too much. Most companies have made a real effort to reduce standby power usage. I thought the wii's 9 watt standby was irresponsible, but Nintendo did a much better job with the wii u, less than a quarter watt. The energy star requirements for game consoles specify less than half a watt.
Describing it in a cost per hour per user is totally disingenuous. The problem isn't how much it will cost me on my bill, it's the aggregate power demand across the install base. Hopefully they will fix this.
My guess would be in the 1/2 watt power state, it's in stand-by: listening for voice commands, periodically checking for updates (d/l updates would require the 14watt power state?). Once it's heard the phrase "Xbox-on" it would power up to 14watts and respond to that command; like a lower power ready state.
For the majority of the time that the Xbox One is in standby, it will likely be in the 1/2 watt power state, as this device is designed to be left always on. There are European regulations regarding standby power consumption:
A 14 watt stand by power consumption would be unnacceptable there.
So in Germany, is there some law preventing you from pulling a plug out of a power socket?
So in Germany, is there some law preventing you from pulling a plug out of a power socket?
I have to think they got something wrong. The answer describes two separate low power modes.
Not_sure_if_serious.jpg14 watts in "Xbox on" standby mode? That's much higher than I expected. I would have thought that they'd optimize that more.
So in Germany, is there some law preventing you from pulling a plug out of a power socket?
I do, per switch. Every end of the day, don't need them to be ready for 14 hours when I am not at home.Way to miss the point. People generally do not unplug their electronics. That's why this matters.
I hope you're right.
That's only because the PSP's CPU speed was locked at the slower speed to begin with, they didn't make it go any faster, they just unlocked the limit and let developers use its full power.
That's 35 per year here in Germany, just for listening to "Xbox on". No thanks.
Have you recently used a cellphone? Also, there's no reason for the whole Kinect to run in this mode, just the microphone (which should be negligible in terms of power).Not_sure_if_serious.jpg
That's basically the NIC and the Kinect mic and enough CPU resources to process "Xbox On".
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That's basically the NIC and the Kinect mic and enough CPU resources to process "Xbox On".
So in Germany, is there some law preventing you from pulling a plug out of a power socket?
Bad news for you. Almost all electronics use power even turned "off".I absolutely want to crawl behind my entertainment center and unplug my xbox every time I finish playing.
OR I could just choose to not buy it. Yeah I think I'll go that route.
your electricity bill is 170 euro per year?Pretty much the same here in Holland.
35,- for a single hardware unit is way too much for the average consumer. I am fine with my energy bill of around 170,- and I seriously do not want to spend over 200,-
You are interpreting the law incorrectly: The 1/2 Watt requirement is for modes where nothing but the ability to turn the system on by the touch of a button is provided. There is absolutely no way the system will provide any kind of voice command or network functionality on that power budget.
Way to miss the point. People generally do not unplug their electronics. That's why this matters.
If u can't afford 35 euro per year running costs I don't think the console is for you. A few cents per day really isn't worth complaining about. My pc is on 24/7 along with a lot of other appliances in my house. Its not a huge worry.
Suddenly it's no longer 1=$1, eh?
Thanks for posting ekim.
But I would assume that's the stand by mode where the box is also ready for "Xbox On" commands. The paragraph makes it sound as if there is another power state where the xbox is not listening. Did they ever mention whether the voice command can be disabled? If so, that may explain the 'alternative' stand by power consumption.If it's anything like the PS4, it's downloading updates and w/e in the background.
Jesus. I could afford a hundred of those consoles running 24/7. That doesn't mean it's not a waste, so I'll just deactivate voice activation and save at least $30/year. If you think saying "Xbox on" is worth $35 a year then more power to you.
well if you could afford a hundred $500 consoles at $50,000, then a drop in the ocean of $35 shouldn't really even register. $3 a month is nothing. But you won't buy the console because you will have to pay that?
No. I want the added motion control with my next gen console. Progress is what its call I believe.Again with the 'value' thing.
Get rid of Kinect already.
no but with the wording "software changes to the OS" I thought they were referring to it as if it affects only the OS (or one of the three OS's), and wouldn't/couldn't affect games.
2 pages deep. Most important question not asked yet.
Will we still have to deal with a giant behemoth of a power brick that looks like a brick of grey shit and gets in the way of every entertainment system known to man?