Gediminas
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but with this move, you are making precedent that other exclusives coming to PC too. that decreases value of your console and other games as a whole. exclusives powers consoles sales, not the other way around.
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nikolino840
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
does this mean he was right about a 8 tflops ps5? now 9 tflops?
I mean this does make sense. $399 8 tflops ps5 aimed at causals while they are willing to lose enthusiasts to the PC.
i remember andrew house saying that he made the pro to keep ps4 players from jumping to PC which is why i was pretty sure they would release a powerful $499 12-14 tflops console but i guess hes gone for good and with him that approach to cater to gamers.
Niked
Member
This! Exclusives that is tailor made brings a special admireation on what they can accomplish on the system. It shows also that "this system makes it possible to experience amazing games not possible (power, publishing, innovation, risk taking, etc) anyware else. You get hyped up for the games. It create a buzz.
Gamernyc78
Banned
They will use the same strategy they are using with Psnow as not to cannabalize or ruin sales they'll wait about two years and allow them on pc like thy allow them on Psnow. It's a win/win bcus ppl still feel thy need to get the Playstation to play must have exclusives when thy drop but thy can get new sales later on via pc.
ethomaz
Banned
There is a lot of reasons because it set precedents to for new Sony first-party games:
- Decreasing quality due being focused in multiplatform development.
- Less specific use of platform features (I don't know what features PS5 will have but the changes to use it going multiplatform is near 0).
- Less PS5 sales and so less user pool for multiplayer games.
- PC games mess up the consoles multiplayer.
- Less focus in PlayStation ecosystem.
It will just become like the bland and boring platform that everybody hates.
Maybe the way now is go Nintendo.
It is a huge mistake too... exclusives take Sony to the top and now they will just open again to failures.
I believe they will lose sales and userbase.
You can forget Sony games selling over 10 million being released on the small PS5 userbase and PC.
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Gamernyc78
Banned
Doesn't decrease anything if thy use the same strategy they use with Psnow. Release the games two years plus down the line. Most ppl don't own a gaming pc to begin with and most won't want to wait tht long so they will still buy console.
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The Mad Draklor
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Not everyone is going to buy a 3080ti nor is that absolutely necessary.500€ or 2000€ mmmh.... The masses wich system Will buy?
Also, sites like Greenmangaming, Fanatical, CDKeys, and Chrono.gg allow PC gamers to buy games at lower prices. The lack of a PC storefront monopoly in comparison to the digital store monopoly on PS/Xbox also ensures competitive prices.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
what about if I want a vest?
ZywyPL
Banned
Keeping the pizza constantly warm, what a flawless design!
The rumor is floating around or quite some time, and I hope it's really true, so I can A) experience the game at its fullest, and B) just to see all those fanboys and their excuses - "the game wasn't even any good anyway, it's a no loss for the Playstation, GoW and TLoU2 are the true exclusives!!" xD
Gediminas
Banned
PS+ raking a lot of money, if you neglect your console sales, PS+ goes down as well, decreases the number of console, lower income from PS+, from software too. instead that you release exclusives on you platform, you put on PC where you gonna pay 20-30%?
playstation management has change over last few years. best people moved on, now, it is new management and they are doing basically terrible job.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
dont forget Sonypass.
Now xbox fans will realize how annoying it is to mention gamepass in every conversation.
nikolino840
Member
So..no SSD and no raytracing...ps5 so Is the best way to play
Agnostic2020
Member
Jim Ryan was running PS Europe for longest time . He is not a new figure
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Its impossible to say they are doing a terrible job since we have no idea how Death Stradning and Horizon will sell. They could do gangbusters they could be timid.
Putting a game on PC does not neglect a console sale. it gives the consumers options.
PS+ is a good point but the idea paying to play online is becoming more insane by the day. Gold and Plus need to move into a different model to keep people subscribed.
The Mad Draklor
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The RTX 3080ti will have raytracing and RDNA2 will have raytracing support. Khronos recently stated after updating Vulkan to 1.2 that raytracing support is coming up next along with other features. What are you on?and no raytracing...ps5 so Is the best way to play
01011001
Banned
I honestly think it's the other way around. I bet they started porting Decima a while ago and Kojima uses this to easily port it over.
saintjules
Member
Dang, I think it's the first time I saw the word Nintendo in here. So much PS5/XSX talk in here, you can kinda forget about them.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Smash Ultimate PC at 240 fps.
Fake
Member
Nintendo was mention many times here and the old thread before that. Not more than PS5/seX.
Ellery
Member
I can only guess what Big Navi 21 is, but I would be surprised to see a gigantic GPU in a console that is hard to cool
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
245 or Im out.
PocoJoe
Banned
If they import years old Sony exclusives to PC, who cares? Majority have already bought it for playstation anyway.
PS4 isnt like nintendo that you have to buy launch games year after year because nothing else (good) is released.
If they would go MS style and release games for PC and ps5 in the same time, that would not be so cool. But if they would sell and would not affect games/quality, I guess it would not be bad either.
PS4 isnt like nintendo that you have to buy launch games year after year because nothing else (good) is released.
If they would go MS style and release games for PC and ps5 in the same time, that would not be so cool. But if they would sell and would not affect games/quality, I guess it would not be bad either.
Lampiao
Member
At the time the Russian leaker commented on Horizon ZD coming to the pc, he also said that Zelda Botw would also be ported.
amstradcpc
Member
closing studios, yeah. If XSX has a Windows launcher will have it all and will be the console to get, that or an Nvidia Ampere.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Personally, this would be even bigger news after already seeing how gorgeous it looks on CEMU at 4K.
Felessan
Member
PC is know as a haven for selling old games, it actually has a poor result for new games and excellent for old games, compared to console space.
And it's not like guys that waits 3+ years to play a game, even though consoles are long past price concious consumers line, will get a particular console.
This would be true if PC would be a new focus, and not just cash-grab of 3-years-late port with unknown quality.
Game is a 3 years old, it's going cheap on PS even without sales. It's looks like standard " we will sell this title forever in sales and bundles and whatnot on a "guaranteed BC" platform that gives us a stable revenue stream for our back catalog" reason why publishers even bother with PC.
Niked
Member
You can buy a vest at Walmart If you want. But the shirt and vest are not made to match each other. Nor size, fabric, functionality or colour. So If you want to look like a clown, you are welcome
Fake
Member
Indeed. That last Digital Foundry video using CEMU was really good.
Imtjnotu
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I think it's more or less giving Playstation fans a reason not to own one.
It's the same reason I think Xbox one sales tanked.
If you don't have to buy a specific piece of hardware to run something then it obviously won't sell well
ZywyPL
Banned
And? It's not the console that brings the money, software is. Consoles are just a vessel, a media to reach the consumers which then generate revenue by buying games/services. Always have been, always will be.
Felessan
Member
It's not like Uncharted went to PC. Or TLoU. Or Bloodborne. Or GT Sport. Or most other high profile PS games.
As long as Sony will hold back some of it's big name in exclusive library - reason will stay.
And sharing some to PC crowd will actually temp them - "why should you wait 3 years" given them a practical example how PS game looks like, denying them a room for excuse "maybe game is not that good"
Rossco EZ
Member
nothing wrong with a game going to pc after a few years, if they release games on the console and pc same day then yes that’s really bad for playstation. just sony’s way of increasing revenue, most of the people would of played it by that point anyway. people who wouldn’t of played an exclusive after a few years either doesn’t like it or just wont purchase a console for 1-2 games.
chemical boy
Member
From my point of view it is a very bad move and more before the revelation of ps5, it is a mistake and it will affect sales.
Gamernyc78
Banned
Shit like this just might make me double dip
I'd luv playing the game day one on console then few years down the line with mods on pc.
Rossco EZ
Member
why will it affect ps5 sales lol
Edit: or sales in general, it will increase sales of the game now. if you haven’t purchased it already for the years it’s been out you obviously wouldn’t want a console or don’t want to play the game enough, it’s really simple.
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chemical boy
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By the way the Uncharted saga will also be released on PC with TLOU.
splattered
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Sony is dipping their toes in the PSnow thing to see consumer reaction and adoption from adding some 1st party titles... if subscriber numbers skyrocket because they added some older 1st party games you can bet your butts they are going to start adding new 1st party games day one probably sooner rather than later.
Microsoft has a high subscription business model here and it does appear that Sony is realizing this and will soon try to catch up and at least run neck and neck if not pass them up eventually.
Microsoft has a high subscription business model here and it does appear that Sony is realizing this and will soon try to catch up and at least run neck and neck if not pass them up eventually.
He also claimed the PS5 is 9TF.
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