thurnishaleygw
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You are giving a bad name to bugs
I am afraid the simple answer is quality control. Microsoft was prepared to ship it out in an awful state, but the backlash was just too high.
This should really worry you, they are prepared to release unfished, products, full of bugs and problems is a big no no for the future of their ecosystem.
The halo demo was a disaster, imagine the things we could not see, if that was the best of what they had to show, can you imagine the worst of it.
those new studios they bought, that's great and all, but they will be under extreme pressure. Postman Phil might come across all nice and dandy on videos, but behind the scenes that guy is a total prick, cutthroat. you do not get that high on the corporate ladder being Mr nice guy.
He is under extreme pressure to deliver, he wants results, he has time tables and schedules that need to be adhered to.
Games quality is going to take a massive backstep because of gamespass and the need to feed the monster.
those 90% scores from great studios like playground games are going to turn into 85%. mediocre studio are going to start pumping out even worse content.
I hate to say it, Microsoft is going to destroy gaming with their shitty approach.
why the hell could they just not take notes from sony, produce good quality games and the people will come.
It's like those people at the markets selling knock off DVDs back i the day. SIGH
Gamepass is the death of quality gaming.
Man, this was more than I hour if I remember well. I almost took up smoking.Imagine this popping up everytime you go through a portal?
Wow!! This guy is a AAA games developer, he knows how to make ps5 games to run on ps4.The portal jumps could have been created on PS4 and had a slower transition because of mechanical drives but sped up immensely because of the PS5 SSD. Nothing about the game screams next gen.
Secret snapshot from GamePass's lair:
bwahahahaha I really thank you for your deep insight. and for the laughs
I understand... *tries to wipe the Battlefield off my face*That's how I feel while playing EA titles.
Actually... Yes. Compared to Sony, MS 1st party sold peanuts comparatively.
Your logical basis is solely based on the Gran Tourismo franchise.
Sony have also invented a whole bunch of brand new franchises this generation instead of just milking its top marques like MS does. There's been Horizon, Days Gone, Ghost of Tsushima, Bloodborne etc which is continuing to grow the library and IP portfolio as well as still making the sequels it has needed to make. Infamous got a sequel. TLOU got a sequel. God of War got a sequel.
And snails pace is bizarre considering it's not 2010 anymore. Sony's exclusive output has been 2-3 every single year.
I guess I found who's been living under a rock this past decade.
I really like you fishy, and I think you are funny too, but these are like ...your opinions and I really dont agree with them.
because I like you, here's a list of the games that have been on game pass and have a 75 or better metacritic. as you'll see, its almost 400 games.
you can stomp your fins on that goldfish jar of yours for as long as you like, but you will convince absolutely no-one that has game pass that it is a bad deal or the death of anything ;]
Game Metacritic Red Dead Redemption 2 97 Grand Theft Auto V 97 BioShock 96 Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain 95 Gears of War 94 The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 94 Ninja Gaiden Black 94 STAR WARS: Knights of the Old Republic 94 Gears of War 2 93 Braid 93 Fallout 3 93 BioShock Infinite 93 Pac-Man Championship Edition DX 93 Final Fantasy VII 92 Demon's Tilt 92 What Remains of Edith Finch 92 Forza Horizon 4 92 Undertale 92 The Swapper 92 Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age - Definitive Edition 91 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 91 Dead Cells 91 Mass Effect 91 Gears of War 3 91 FEZ 91 NieR Automata: Become as Gods Edition 90 Ori and the Will of the Wisps 90 Panzer Dragoon Orta 90 Hollow Knight: Voidheart Edition 90 Monster Hunter: World 90 Metal Gear Solid HD Edition: 2 & 3 90 Opus Magnum 90 Into the Breach 90 Bayonetta 90 NBA 2K17 90 Rise of Nations: Extended Edition 89 The Walking Dead: A Telltale Games Series 89 Fable II 89 Fable III 89 F1 2019 88 Halo 3 88 Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 + II.5 ReMix 88 Dishonored 2 88 Slay the Spire 88 Minecraft 88 Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition 88 Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice 88 Metro: Last Light Redux 88 The Banner Saga 3 88 Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus 88 Fallout 4 88 Guacamelee! Super Turbo Championship Edition 88 Joe Danger: Special Edition 88 BioShock 2 88 XCOM: Enemy Within 88 Europa Universalis IV 87 For The King 87 Rocket League 87 Devil May Cry 5 87 Unavowed 87 West of Loathing 87 DOOM 87 Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor - Game of the Year Edition 87 Spelunky 87 Kingdom: New Lands 87 CrossCode 86 Fractured Minds 86 Pillars of Eternity: Complete Edition 86 Killer Instinct: Definitive Edition 86 CrossCode 86 Thumper 86 Mortal Kombat X 86 DiRT 4 86 Rise of the Tomb Raider 86 Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition 86 Football Manager 2019 86 Pony Island 86 >observer_ 86 Sky Force: Reloaded 86 DmC: Devil May Cry - Definitive Edition 86 Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty 86 DiRT Rally 86 Thronebreaker: The Witcher Tales 85 Final Fantasy IX 85 Machinarium 85 Yakuza 0 85 Infinifactory 85 Age of Wonders: Planetfall 85 The Outer Worlds 85 Enter the Gungeon 85 Batman: Arkham Knight 85 Guacamelee! 2 85 Hotline Miami 85 Outer Wilds 85 PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds 85 Halo: The Master Chief Collection 85 Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun 85 SteamWorld Dig 2 85 The Last Door: Season 2 - Collector's Edition 85 Valkyria Chronicles 85 Life is Strange 85 BattleBlock Theater 85 HITMAN 85 LIMBO 85 Resident Evil 7: Biohazard 85 SoulCalibur VI 84 Plebby Quest: The Crusades 84 Football Manager 2020 84 Reigns: Game of Thrones 84 FTL: Faster Than Light 84 Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition 84 Fallout: New Vegas 84 Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night 84 Rare Replay 84 Battle Chasers: Nightwar 84 Moonlighter 84 Frostpunk 84 Metro 2033 Redux 84 Gears of War 4 84 Halo 5: Guardians 84 Terraria 84 Viva Piñata 84 F1 2018 84 Everspace 84 The Banner Saga 2 84 Thimbleweed Park 84 Saints Row: The Third 84 Kingdom: Two Crowns 84 'Splosion Man 84 Stacking 84 Borderlands 84 SEGA Vintage Collection: Streets of Rage 84 Alan Wake 83 The Walking Dead: Season Two 83 Two Point Hospital 83 Final Fantasy XV 83 A Plague Tale: Innocence 83 Overcooked! 2 83 Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet Edition 83 Gears 5: Ultimate Edition 83 Ape Out 83 Age of Empires: Definitive Edition 83 Broforce 83 The Messenger 83 Cities: Skylines 83 theHunter: Call of the Wild 83 Yoku's Island Express 83 SUPERHOT 83 Prey 83 Deus Ex: Mankind Divided 83 ABZÛ 83 N+ 83 Warhammer: Vermintide 2 83 Ms. Splosion Man 83 OlliOlli2: XL Edition 83 Tekken Tag Tournament 2 83 Yakuza Kiwami 2 82 Streets of Rogue 82 Kingdom Hearts HD II.8 Final Chapter Prologue 82 Endless Legend 82 Indivisible 82 eFootball PES 2020 82 Wandersong 82 DiRT Rally 2.0 82 The Gardens Between 82 Gears of War: Ultimate Edition 82 Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise 82 RiME 82 Blazing Chrome 82 Metro Exodus 82 Shadow of the Tomb Raider 82 Life is Strange: Before the Storm 82 Pro Evolution Soccer 2019 82 Split/Second 82 Joe Danger 2: The Movie 82 Defense Grid: The Awakening 82 Iron Brigade 82 Sonic CD 82 Mega Man 9 82 Resident Evil 82 Pro Evolution Soccer 2018 82 10 Second Ninja X 82 So Many Me 82 Streets of Rage 4 81 Gears Tactics 81 Ninja Gaiden II 81 Untitled Goose Game 81 Faeria 81 Remnant: From the Ashes 81 Subnautica 81 Stellaris 81 Downwell 81 Middle-earth: Shadow of War 81 Torment: Tides of Numenera 81 Wargroove 81 Tekken 7 81 Sniper Elite 4 81 Halo Wars: Definitive Edition 81 Perfect Dark Zero 81 Sunset Overdrive 81 Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons 81 RAGE 81 Toy Soldiers 81 Toy Soldiers: Cold War 81 Laser League 81 Injustice: Gods Among Us 81 Maldita Castilla EX: Cursed Castilla 81 Monaco: What's Yours is Mine 81 Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown 81 Endless Space 2: Deluxe Edition 80 Yakuza Kiwami 80 Alvastia Chronicles 80 Kingdom Hearts III 80 Death Squared 80 My Friend Pedro 80 The Red Strings Club 80 The Turing Test 80 Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden 80 Westerado: Double Barreled 80 NBA 2K20 80 The Jackbox Party Pack 3 80 Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams - Director's Cut 80 Samorost 3 80 Full Metal Furies 80 Wolfenstein: The New Order 80 Battle Chef Brigade 80 Borderlands 2 80 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel! 80 Kingsway 80 Operencia: The Stolen Sun 80 The Jackbox Party Pack 2 80 Tom Clancy's The Division 80 Thomas Was Alone 80 Darksiders: Warmastered Edition 80 Tyranny: Gold Edition 80 Shantae: Half-Genie Hero 80 Shadow Complex: Remastered 80 LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga 80 Mega Man Legacy Collection 80 Super Mega Baseball: Extra Innings 80 Super Time Force 80 Outlast 80 World of Van Helsing: Deathtrap 80 The Bug Butcher 80 Overcooked! 80 The Touryst 79 Observation 79 Gato Roboto 79 Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown 79 Halo: Combat Evolved - Anniversary 79 Lonely Mountains: Downhill 79 Perfect Dark 79 Wizard of Legend 79 Tacoma 79 Halo Wars 2 79 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts 79 Gears of War: Judgment 79 Kameo: Elements of Power 79 Ashes Cricket 79 The Book of Unwritten Tales 2 79 LEGO Batman 2: DC Super Heroes 79 Alien Hominid HD 79 CastleStorm 79 Monday Night Combat 79 Dead Rising 2 79 Shantae and the Pirate's Curse 79 Steredenn 79 Mega Man 10 79 Dead Rising 2: Case Zero 79 SoulCalibur 79 Dungeon of the Endless 79 Forager 78 BattleTech 78 Moving Out 78 The Surge 2 78 Bridge Constructor Portal 78 Alien: Isolation 78 Shadow Warrior 2 78 State of Decay 2: Juggernaut Edition 78 OXENFREE 78 Creature in the Well 78 Resident Evil: Revelations 78 Headlander 78 Ashen 78 MXGP3 78 GRID 2 78 Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition 78 Hue 78 A Kingdom for Keflings 78 Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 78 Layers of Fear 78 OlliOlli 78 Dead Rising 3 78 This War of Mine: The Little Ones 78 Defense Grid 2 78 Darksiders Genesis 77 Neon Abyss 77 Battlefleet Gothic: Armada II 77 Children of Morta 77 Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight 77 Descenders 77 Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite 77 Quantum Break 77 The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited 77 Wasteland 2: Director's Cut 77 Banjo-Kazooie 77 Battlefleet Gothic: Armada 77 Stealth Inc 2: A Game of Clones 77 #IDARB 77 RUINER 77 Orwell: Keeping an Eye on You 77 Titan-Quest: Anniversary Edition 77 Batman: Arkham City 77 Batman: Arkham Asylum 77 LEGO City Undercover 77 LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures 77 Onrush 77 Garou: Mark of the Wolves 77 A World of Keflings 77 Portal Knights 77 Aven Colony 77 Lumo 77 Letter Quest: Grimm's Journey - Remastered 77 Electronic Super Joy 77 Sky Force: Anniversary 77 Final Fight: Double Impact 77 Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising 77 Double Kick Heroes 76 New Super Lucky's Tale 76 Carrion 76 The Long Dark 76 Journey to the Savage Planet 76 Pikuniku 76 Train Sim World 2020 76 The Escapists 2 76 Surviving Mars 76 Supermarket Shriek 76 The Stillness of the Wind 76 Old Man's Journey 76 The Lego Ninjago Movie Video Game 76 Imperator: Rome 76 The Banner Saga 76 Metal Slug 3 76 Resident Evil 4 76 Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition 76 D4: Dark Dreams Don't Die 76 JumpJet Rex 76 Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes 76 SoulCalibur II HD Online 76 Age of Booty 76 de Blob 2 76 LEGO Batman: The Videogame 76 Strider 76 Don't Starve: Giant Edition 75 Deliver Us the Moon 75 Lego Star Wars III: The Clone Wars 75 Worms W.M.D 75 Void Bastards 75 Life is Strange 2 75 Riptide GP: Renegade 75 Hydro Thunder: Hurricane 75 Black Desert 75 Bomber Crew 75 MX vs. ATV: Reflex 75 Shenmue 75 Shenmue II 75 Strange Brigade 75 Darksiders II: Deathinitive Edition 75 Resident Evil 5 75 The Maw 75 Resident Evil: Revelations 2 75 Sam & Max: Beyond Time and Space 75
just use the search function if you like. your proof is there.
BUT it takes a functional brain to understand.
many people seem to not have it, therefore I find the repetitions a waste of time.
Like i said... games have always released at a snails pace on PS
It's a great educational program, but some still see it as a game due to game starvation. It's great for what it's meant to, train and educate amateur pilots.
So this is also a game...Come on now Bo, it's a game, PERIOD. That it's not your cup of tea doesn't mean it's not a game, it is.
Definition of a game :
an activity that one engages in for amusement or fun.
Obligatory GOW GIFKnock off the petty antagonism please, I’m getting sick of posting in here.
Next step are thread bans and site bans, then people will run to the ban thread and complain- yet you only have yourself to blame.
Thank you, and happy posting.
And you don't think MS 1st party titles also sell millions? What? Like i said... games have always released at a snails pace on PS and there haven't been any major sequels within the current gen. That's a huge factor in why they AS MUCH as they do. If we had three GT titles this gen the sales numbers would have thinned and evened out amongst them like we see on Xbox games. Sony and MS just had a different approach to releasing games. Sony want absolute quality system sellers even if the game takes 4 years to come out. They have been feeding that funnel longer than MS so they can afford the extra dev time. Microsoft want good games to come out more frequently to keep their fanbase engaged with new things to play so they have shorter dev cycles but MS lost focus on games early on this gen which had to be fixed halfway through so they are behind in that aspect. They have made HUGE investments in the last couple years which will vastly improve their situation but it takes time.
I really think this next gen we will see both companies more meet in the middle on quality vs quantity as subscription services become more important to both Sony and MS.
No all is not well, Halo Infinite is a dumpster fire at the moment. You will get no argument from me about that. That comes down more to shitty game direction though. But that being said i definitely wouldn't say that this is a proper showcase of what the system can produce. They are just behind Sony because their next gen plans are further out than Sony's were. Which is what i keep saying. 2019 vs 2020.
So... Torture is just game for sadists?Come on now Bo, it's a game, PERIOD. That it's not your cup of tea doesn't mean it's not a game, it is.
Definition of a game :
an activity that one engages in for amusement or fun.
It's probably just Blessing and Greg with more hot (bad) PS takes. That's all it seems to be nowadays unfortunately lol.
I don't want to be too negative about gamepass, i know a lot of people like it, it's just not for me.
I just hope Microsoft people can see my concerns, i am just trying to be super honest about it.
if I was microsoft, I would have shown a multiplayer firefight between those pro teams they have inside their game development loop, and offer it as a download at 120fps mode
ps. go take a look at the spoiler tag I edited in my previous reply to you. maybe you will not be worried any more.
Thank you, and happy posting.
Knock off the petty antagonism please, I’m getting sick of posting in here.
Next step are thread bans and site bans, then people will run to the ban thread and complain- yet you only have yourself to blame.
Thank you, and happy posting.
They most certainly are not. They are your lack of understanding and ill attempt at mischaracterizing in your ignorance what you think Mark Cerny said.1 and 2 are CERNY's words, not mine, I provided timestamped links just to make those guys that wanted, to understand.
it seems you didnt.
the rest of your points, not so much. try again if you want
Unfortunately I haven't thought to screen grab that interaction personally. Others might've though.Does anyone have screenshots of this Twitter spat?
Damn if I was on the receiving end of this, I would be on suicide watch already.
BURNI know, right? Yet Xbox fans seem to lap it up!
It is not even open for discussion for people living in reality, they seem to live on another plane though if that is even open to discussion for them.Son, repeating this doesn't make it true. Sony has outclassed MS in both quality and output this gen.
So this is also a game...
Off-topic, but whoa... PC using PS4 Pro's Performance Mode settings/resolution. Pro has very identical perf compared to GTX 970/3700X PC in Avengers.
Pro screenshot is from NX Gamer's analysis.
Just when you think your safe.....
Here's Krato's!!!!
should of been Craigs head through the door.
There'd be far less antagonism if we all just got juicy and naked.
I said this to my exes all the time.There'd be far less antagonism if we all just got juicy and naked.
More than likely.Ready at Dawn??? gtfo is the most appropriate response I think.
Son, repeating this doesn't make it true. Sony has outclassed MS in both quality and output this gen.
You want something for xbox ?Oh yeah?
Here, i'll let you hand pick all the 85-90+ metacritic first/second party bangers released each year that are absolute must have system sellers going back to 2013...
2013 - Hmmm
2014 - Welp, maybe next year!
2015 - Oh, it's picking up! Journey and Bloodborne!
2016 - Shit, what happened.. Wait, we got Uncharted 4, yay!
2017 - Now we're talking! Horizon Zero Dawn! What else? Hmm Gran Turismo Sport! Wait. A 75? High class quality right there!
2018 - God of War and Spiderman! And VR has entered the chat... what else?
2019 - Wait, did we go back in time to 2013?
2020 - TLoU2 and Tsushima! Both amazing first/2nd party exclusives.... anything else slated for 2020? No?
No go back and do the same thing with Xbox... welp, obviously not a lot of titles climb into the 90 territory but they are generally a very solid 85+ and release more frequently giving Xbox fans more to play along the way. Also more Xbox titles are MP focused giving the actual game better legs as far as replayability.
Like i said, Sony and MS have had a very different approach to game releases this gen but Sony have hardly "outclassed" MS in their releases.
I dont think that making your fans dumb and stupid with your misleading PR push is very smart in the long run for a company.
but hey, that's just my opinion
You want something for xbox ?
2013 - meh nothing really
2013 - meh nothing really
2013 - meh nothing really
2013 - meh nothing really
2013 - meh nothing really
2013 - meh nothing really
Oh yeah?
Here, i'll let you hand pick all the 85-90+ metacritic first/second party bangers released each year that are absolute must have system sellers going back to 2013...
2013 - Hmmm
2014 - Welp, maybe next year!
2015 - Oh, it's picking up! Journey and Bloodborne!
2016 - Shit, what happened.. Wait, we got Uncharted 4, yay!
2017 - Now we're talking! Horizon Zero Dawn! What else? Hmm Gran Turismo Sport! Wait. A 75? High class quality right there!
2018 - God of War and Spiderman! And VR has entered the chat... what else?
2019 - Wait, did we go back in time to 2013?
2020 - TLoU2 and Tsushima! Both amazing first/2nd party exclusives.... anything else slated for 2020? No?
No go back and do the same thing with Xbox... welp, obviously not a lot of titles climb into the 90 territory but they are generally a very solid 85+ and release more frequently giving Xbox fans more to play along the way. Also more Xbox titles are MP focused giving the actual game better legs as far as replayability.
Like i said, Sony and MS have had a very different approach to game releases this gen but Sony have hardly "outclassed" MS in their releases.
You left out Ratchet and Clank 2016Oh yeah?
Here, i'll let you hand pick all the 85-90+ metacritic first/second party bangers released each year that are absolute must have system sellers going back to 2013...
2013 - Hmmm
2014 - Welp, maybe next year!
2015 - Oh, it's picking up! Journey and Bloodborne!
2016 - Shit, what happened.. Wait, we got Uncharted 4, yay!
2017 - Now we're talking! Horizon Zero Dawn! What else? Hmm Gran Turismo Sport! Wait. A 75? High class quality right there!
2018 - God of War and Spiderman! And VR has entered the chat... what else?
2019 - Wait, did we go back in time to 2013?
2020 - TLoU2 and Tsushima! Both amazing first/2nd party exclusives.... anything else slated for 2020? No?
No go back and do the same thing with Xbox... welp, obviously not a lot of titles climb into the 90 territory but they are generally a very solid 85+ and release more frequently giving Xbox fans more to play along the way. Also more Xbox titles are MP focused giving the actual game better legs as far as replayability.
Like i said, Sony and MS have had a very different approach to game releases this gen but Sony have hardly "outclassed" MS in their releases.
I've only enjoyed Quantum Break ,and everything else was just pure shit.Hey craig, that isn't fair... i at least called out the good PS4 games even if i wasn't personally a fan of some of them.
Lmao Ratchet and Clank on PS4 would have 40 second transitions instead of a 1 second transition. That would be absolute ass.No i don't want the system to fail at all, i'm going by several people i know in real life that buy Playstation systems and then buy a madden, or Fifa, or COD but then that's all they really buy and play at all. First party titles sell through immensely because they trickle out at a very slow pace and it's a small handful of amazing games that are the very reason to own a Playstation in the first place. But that being said "Look at how many copies GT sold!" Well how many GT titles came out on PS4 the last 7 years? Oh... well that explains that. If PS games saw more sequels through the generation the sales numbers would thin out more like they do on Xbox.
Some super popular stuff like GTA and Witcher sell very well also but everything else? Not really more than their Xbox counterparts... people aren't lining up at gaming shops to buy up all the copies of the weird half ass indie niche titles that the Playstation library is flooded with. Sony die hards laugh at stuff like Bleeding Edge or Battletoads but don't want to include similar Sony titles like the Medieval remake in the conversation. Both systems have their fair share of games they took a gamble on that didn't turn out as well as they hoped. No biggie.
Good pipeline? Uhh you do realize we're talking about Sony, right? Their big major titles drop once every 3+ years. 2 years if we're super lucky. Delivering two high quality titles the last year of this generation more comes down to extra long development cycles combined with an all hands on deck effort to try and sell as many PS4 systems as they can right before next gen in hopes that all those people will soon go right back out and buy a PS5.
Ratchet is a next-gen showcase. Why? Because you can quickly jump through portals between worlds? Because there is a little bit of raytracing shown? What else? The portal jumps could have been created on PS4 and had a slower transition because of mechanical drives but sped up immensely because of the PS5 SSD. Nothing about the game screams next gen. Demon's Souls is next-gen? Really? How so? You don't think that could be done 100% on PS4? C'mon man. GT? Also looks like a pretty PS4 game with some light RT thrown in. Spiderman and HZD2 look good but we've only seen 99% cut scenes so far. One recent still picture of Spiderman that looked good but it obviously wasn't a gameplay screenshot.
Nothing that PS5 or XSX have shown so far have been a huge leap over what is currently available, it will take a few years before we really start being amazed by all the new tech and power.
Xbox first party won't sell millions because of gamepass that's my guess plus I don't think we've ever had 3 GT titles in a single gen it ain't Forza and if it's a fully fledged GT title it will absolutely sell millions of copies .
I am not going to reply any further in here, this is not the "next gen analysis and specualtion" thread,I am not talking about multiplat games, i am talking about the future of xbox studios, with their quality control.