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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)

carsar

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Just checked that ugly forza's monza track. Yes, sprites look very bad while viewing them at sharp corner.

Good thing, it's rare case. Most of time you see sprites with well sampled motion blur and hdr bloom.






another 20+ screens in this album
 

darkinstinct

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GT looks so much better here
But it does look nothing like reality (trees are way too high and dark, Forza has nailed how they look IRL). The asphalt color is most realistic in PC2 (although Forza has different lighting conditions, obviously cloudy), the asphalt detail in Forza. GT doesn't even have the bridge/banner in the background. The texture detail on the tyre stacks is the worst in GT. Texture detail is highest in Forza, while texture accuracy is best in GT.

 
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I think they all look bad on that track tbh, Forza looks the worst mostly because of the lighting on that track and trees followed by GTS and PC2 looks better because of the trees and textures. But they have nothing on ACC




and it takes it even further with the weather

 
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But it does look nothing like reality (trees are way too high and dark, Forza has nailed how they look IRL). The asphalt color is most realistic in PC2 (although Forza has different lighting conditions, obviously cloudy), the asphalt detail in Forza. GT doesn't even have the bridge/banner in the background. The texture detail on the tyre stacks is the worst in GT. Texture detail is highest in Forza, while texture accuracy is best in GT.

Maybe because it has different time of day?

"Forza has nailed how they look IRL"

My god are seriuos ? :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Forza 7


GTS


Real life:



As for the bridge they take it off when there is no Grand Prix


 
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Turk1993

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And i think that the car model in ACC is the best there is in game, it renders literally everything all the time engine, mirrors, full lod, full interior details and all the reflections without tricks or cut outs. That is what you get when you make a game exclusive to pc, its pretty nuts how much detail there is in game on the car just have a look



 
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I think they all look bad on that track tbh, Forza looks the worst mostly because of the lighting on that track and trees followed by GTS and PC2 looks better because of the trees and textures. But they have nothing on ACC




and it takes it even further with the weather

PJC doesn't look better on that shot but i undertand that you can't accept that and give the edge to GT,you're such a hater of the game lol
 

Turk1993

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PJC doesn't look better on that shot but i undertand that you can't accept that and give the edge to GT,you're such a hater of the game lol
I know it looks better on that track because i own all of them and played them all on pc ultra and PS4 Pro. And there are track side details that are much higher quality on Forza and PC2 but the trees and lighting looks bad on Forza on that track, thats why i say that it looks the worst. But i will post some PC2 screenshots also from PC instead of that one from your friend in motion with blur on. And don't confuse me with yourself, i actually play those games instead of just hating like you do with Forza. There is a difference between hating or prefering one over the other, wich you don't understand.
 

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Maybe because it has different time of day?
Well yeah...
For some reason screen for GTS had dramatic evening lighting and it was compared to bland midday on PC2 (which IMO still looked better xD), and even more bland cloudy day in Forza.
Heres somewhat closer conditions, therefore more representative comparation:


 

Turk1993

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Curious to see how they are going to defend this 😂
Look how happy you are because you saw a shitty 720p compressed youtube capture from some random photomode footage where the exposure is purposely lowered.
This is how it normaly looks with cloudy weather when the sun is covered

and this is how it looks if you edit the exposure and lower it till the end


It even happens in GTS and that one doesn't even have dynamic tod or even dynamic clouds
Look how the sun is shining through the ground and look where the shadow is casting, now im curious how you gonna defend this. Even with static lighting and static tod GTS has the same issue and even worse, its shining through the asphalt unlike Forza where it was just through the clouds wich can happen in a game with dynamic tod with dynamic sky. GTS without editing the exposure



 

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What in the hell is this? Have you guys sunk so low that you can't even make shit posting possibly believable?
Please don’t discourage it. As someone not invested in the thread, it’s hilarious watching the hoops they’ll jump through to find something that doesn’t look amazing. I’m sure some Forza guys have done it to, but I’ve not seen it. And the amount of horse shit they pull out really speaks about how great FH4 looks compared to GTS 😆
 
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Look how happy you are because you saw a shitty 720p compressed youtube capture from some random photomode footage where the exposure is purposely lowered.
This is how it normaly looks with cloudy weather when the sun is covered

and this is how it looks if you edit the exposure and lower it till the end


It even happens in GTS and that one doesn't even have dynamic tod or even dynamic clouds
Look how the sun is shining through the ground and look where the shadow is casting, now im curious how you gonna defend this. Even with static lighting and static tod GTS has the same issue and even worse, its shining through the asphalt unlike Forza where it was just through the clouds wich can happen in a game with dynamic tod with dynamic sky. GTS without editing the exposure





Can't you see that there are doors where light passes? See that you invent things just to throw shit at the game, not for nothing I say that you are just a fucking hater (who also manipulates the photos of the game to make them look uglier)...AS for Forza Horizon we are that reflections and lighting are totally fake...what a joke
 

Turk1993

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Can't you see that there are doors where light passes? See that you invent things just to throw shit at the game, not for nothing I say that you are just a fucking hater (who also manipulates the photos of the game to make them look uglier)...AS for Forza Horizon we are that reflections and lighting are totally fake...what a joke
Lol, its not coming from the doors, its literally coming from the asphalt look closely, here different angle and place, look where the door is and look how the shadows are




and here you can see clearly that its not from the door, look how many sun is passing through there, non of them match the door and also the car shadow doesn't even match with the car location


And its impossible for the sun to go through that gap and shine light from this angle and go through the car


And you don't see the sun, so how is it even shinning through the stadium and asphalt?
 

Turk1993

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Here some extra, here its very clear that its not from the door but from the back of the asphalt, just look how the light is going under the car


look at the angel of the sunshine, almost perfectly horizontale
 

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WOW, surely this wins the thread for realism...…...What game is this btw?.....I'm going in blind. If anyone can show a better looking racer than this in motion, it deserves to take the podium without question...…..So yes, show us a gif of a better looking game in motion...
Yeah, I don't think any of them can look better than what is shown here
 
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Since the end goal of Turn10, PD, SMS, KS, and any other studio developing simulators is to reach true realism, they will all eventually be indistinguishable from each other.
 
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thelastword

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Yeah, I don't think any of them can look better than what is shown here
Tbh, if I was the competition, I'd be afraid of next gen.......PD will absolutely slay and do deposits from great heights...….I mean this is 1.84TF, these guys are insane.....PD with stronger raytracing tech than the competition, stronger 3D audio, stronger and faster SSD, faster memory, perhaps HBM mix and finally a strong CPU for them to go nuts on simulations, large tracks and ATD details......GT7 is my most anticipated next gen game for pure visual bliss.....



Oh and Sony.....I know we may get GTS Remastered at launch, but please consider Driveclub at 4k 60fps with improved visuals 16xAF and high quality TAA......These two racers at launch would suffice till GT7, but if you are giving us a new Wipeout and Motorstorm, you wont see me complaining......I say give us a remake of Motorstorm 1 with graphics on par with the CG trailer.....
 

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Since the end goal of Turn10, PD, SMS, KS, and any other studio developing simulators is to reach true realism, they will all eventually be indistinguishable from each other.
Yeah, eventually they will plateau with how much they can improve the visuals (Maybe the gen after next).

Selling new iterations is going to be difficult in the future, when everything already looks photo-realistic.
 
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Tbh, if I was the competition, I'd be afraid of next gen.......PD will absolutely slay and do deposits from great heights...….I mean this is 1.84TF, these guys are insane.....PD with stronger raytracing tech than the competition, stronger 3D audio, stronger and faster SSD, faster memory, perhaps HBM mix and finally a strong CPU for them to go nuts on simulations, large tracks and ATD details......GT7 is my most anticipated next gen game for pure visual bliss.....



Oh and Sony.....I know we may get GTS Remastered at launch, but please consider Driveclub at 4k 60fps with improved visuals 16xAF and high quality TAA......These two racers at launch would suffice till GT7, but if you are giving us a new Wipeout and Motorstorm, you wont see me complaining......I say give us a remake of Motorstorm 1 with graphics on par with the CG trailer.....
Yep, I have a feeling GT7 will be a beast for the PS5 they have probably been working on it alongside GTS
 
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