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Next Super Smash Bros. discussion thread, Community Edition
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Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Honestly Dixie is also pretty bland as a character on its own and the people who like her are hardcore DKC fans.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
NOT ENOUGH MUSCLES
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Oh u
But you know what, I'll admit it - I don't like DKC characters! Gameplay they're very good but characters and setting? Hell no!
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Eh I dunno, I always appreciated Dixie since beyond Samus (who as a kid I didn't completely realize was a girl) most if not all platformer characters were guys. Plus I thought the whole banana hair being used as a helicopter was a neat visual idea. That being said, that's not nearly enough to carry her through as a complete character in SSB4.
I could take or leave Wrinkly, Candy, the DK64 Kongs, and so on though. You really just need DK, Diddy, Cranky, Funky, Dixie and then whoever as an antagonist* IMO.
*prefer the tiki's to kremlings, but K. Rool a million times over Tiki Master Hand
I could take or leave Wrinkly, Candy, the DK64 Kongs, and so on though. You really just need DK, Diddy, Cranky, Funky, Dixie and then whoever as an antagonist* IMO.
*prefer the tiki's to kremlings, but K. Rool a million times over Tiki Master Hand
Oh hey the thread is in a roster phase again? Here's mine! It leans a bit more towards the wishlisty side than the realistic, but I think all my choices are at least somewhat feasible.
49 slots, which makes 53 characters including transformations. 16 newcomers.
Notes:
-9-Volt's moves would alternate between homages to older Nintendo games and usage of forgotten peripherals like the Power Glove. He is simultaneously my most wanted and least likely character.
-Paper Mario's franchise size has doubled since Brawl's development, and man he just has so much potential for a moveset that's nothing like regular Mario's. I've gone from thinking this character is a pipe dream to considering him actually pretty likely.
-Everyone returns except Ike and Sheik, who are just replaced by near-identical movesets that are currently more relevant (Chrom and Impa respectively). Yes, I realize that's an unpopular thing to think in this thread.
-I think Genesect could end up being Meloetta instead, and her two forms would bump the character total up to 54. They've both had pretty recent marketing though, and I think either one would be a neat character with unique mechanics.
-Anna and Heracross are placeholders for Lissa from FE Awakening and a Gen VI rep, since neither character has an icon in the roster maker yet (understandably). I'm not married to Lissa as an addition, I just think that Fire Emblem deserves three characters, and want a relevant-feeling unit that isn't yet another sword-user.
-I am actually not a Takamaru fan, but his inclusion in Nintendoland and his apparent popularity have finally convinced me that he is probably the Retro rep for SSB4.
-Duck Hunt Dog is my WTF nomination, he would be wielding the NES Zapper.
The rest are pretty standard nominations that I don't have much to say about.
49 slots, which makes 53 characters including transformations. 16 newcomers.
Notes:
-9-Volt's moves would alternate between homages to older Nintendo games and usage of forgotten peripherals like the Power Glove. He is simultaneously my most wanted and least likely character.
-Paper Mario's franchise size has doubled since Brawl's development, and man he just has so much potential for a moveset that's nothing like regular Mario's. I've gone from thinking this character is a pipe dream to considering him actually pretty likely.
-Everyone returns except Ike and Sheik, who are just replaced by near-identical movesets that are currently more relevant (Chrom and Impa respectively). Yes, I realize that's an unpopular thing to think in this thread.
-I think Genesect could end up being Meloetta instead, and her two forms would bump the character total up to 54. They've both had pretty recent marketing though, and I think either one would be a neat character with unique mechanics.
-Anna and Heracross are placeholders for Lissa from FE Awakening and a Gen VI rep, since neither character has an icon in the roster maker yet (understandably). I'm not married to Lissa as an addition, I just think that Fire Emblem deserves three characters, and want a relevant-feeling unit that isn't yet another sword-user.
-I am actually not a Takamaru fan, but his inclusion in Nintendoland and his apparent popularity have finally convinced me that he is probably the Retro rep for SSB4.
-Duck Hunt Dog is my WTF nomination, he would be wielding the NES Zapper.
The rest are pretty standard nominations that I don't have much to say about.
Nocturnowl
Member
Dixie and Kiddy would work better for the double role anyway, differentiation from Ice Climbers is that you can swap which one is at the front for different attacks.
Of course no one actually likes Kiddy Kong so therein lies the problem.
Of course no one actually likes Kiddy Kong so therein lies the problem.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
But didn't DKC3 added that shitty Kong?
Also Chespin for Smash 4
Also Chespin for Smash 4
Neoriceisgood
Member
I can't wait for 6th gen Lucario to be revealed and this thread to go nuts over it.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Considering how Zoroark flopped I doubt they'll try another Lucario.
Someone couldn't work out the gimmick of Murky Mill.
Nocturnowl
Member
Never really got why people got so bent out of shape by Ellie, Rambi peaked in DKC2, notice how all the other animal buddies got multiple stages while Rambi only had one in which he spends the last half just bopping Wasps to get over gaps? yeah it's because there's not much that can be done with a bulldozer.
Ellie offered a decidedly different take on an animal buddy and it's hardly like Rambi was forever abandoned considering its still the most frequently seen animal buddy in the series.
Ellie being called a replacement for Rambi despite not even sharing the same function is like some straight up Mewtwo/Lucario level stretching.
Ellie offered a decidedly different take on an animal buddy and it's hardly like Rambi was forever abandoned considering its still the most frequently seen animal buddy in the series.
Ellie being called a replacement for Rambi despite not even sharing the same function is like some straight up Mewtwo/Lucario level stretching.
Nocturnowl
Member
You guys just don't understand the joy of "Bobbing Barrel Brawl".
I should mention I still like Rambi more than Ellie, best animal buddy was Squitter anyway.
Of course there's always the actual Rambi spiritual successor.
I should mention I still like Rambi more than Ellie, best animal buddy was Squitter anyway.
Of course there's always the actual Rambi spiritual successor.
Chet Rippo
Member
It could work, it's about the only way I could see Dixie getting in. Diddy has enough of his own thing to stand on his own, I have no idea how someone could think otherwise.
Which one?
Flopped? What is it, a Hollywood movie?
Fuck Jungle Beat.
Neoriceisgood
Member
Did DKC Returns have animal buddies? I don't even know.
Chet Rippo
Member
The only one it had was Rambi.
DKC3.
Shadow Hog
Member
Yeah, David Wise really outdid himself with this one.
This probably isn't the soundtrack you're looking for
Nocturnowl
Member
Why'd you have to hurt me Chet?
I don't even begin to see the problem unless you just hate the style, then again Sonic Gaf fear Hilltop Zone for the same reason.
Alternative post: Why'd you have to hurt me Hog?
Nocturnowl
Member
Certain members of Sonic Gaf cannot comprehend the rustic beauty of the Hill Top Zone stage theme, that's the problem.
Green Mamba
Member
I have to question why Takamaru is so commonly seen on rosters. It seems almost like the group of Smash fans has collectively convinced itself that he's likely, but I've never actually seen someone request him per se.
And I hate the DKC3 GBA soundtrack. It's like Wise purposefully made the songs as different from the original song's atmosphere as possible.
And I hate the DKC3 GBA soundtrack. It's like Wise purposefully made the songs as different from the original song's atmosphere as possible.
Shadow Hog
Member
There's a problem? I was being serious, that song floors me. The GBA soundchip - or, if I understand correctly, the lack of one - shouldn't be capable of such awesomeness.
Also Hill Top gets too much flak.
Pretty much identical to how I'd imagine Nester if they ever went with that.
Oh hey the thread is in a roster phase again? Here's mine! It leans a bit more towards the wishlisty side than the realistic, but I think all my choices are at least somewhat feasible.
49 slots, which makes 53 characters including transformations. 16 newcomers.
Notes:
-9-Volt's moves would alternate between homages to older Nintendo games and usage of forgotten peripherals like the Power Glove. He is simultaneously my most wanted and least likely character.
-Paper Mario's franchise size has doubled since Brawl's development, and man he just has so much potential for a moveset that's nothing like regular Mario's. I've gone from thinking this character is a pipe dream to considering him actually pretty likely.
-Everyone returns except Ike and Sheik, who are just replaced by near-identical movesets that are currently more relevant (Chrom and Impa respectively). Yes, I realize that's an unpopular thing to think in this thread.
-I think Genesect could end up being Meloetta instead, and her two forms would bump the character total up to 54. They've both had pretty recent marketing though, and I think either one would be a neat character with unique mechanics.
-Anna and Heracross are placeholders for Lissa from FE Awakening and a Gen VI rep, since neither character has an icon in the roster maker yet (understandably). I'm not married to Lissa as an addition, I just think that Fire Emblem deserves three characters, and want a relevant-feeling unit that isn't yet another sword-user.
-I am actually not a Takamaru fan, but his inclusion in Nintendoland and his apparent popularity have finally convinced me that he is probably the Retro rep for SSB4.
-Duck Hunt Dog is my WTF nomination, he would be wielding the NES Zapper.
The rest are pretty standard nominations that I don't have much to say about.
Duck Hunt Dog is really redundant when you have 9-volt in the roster who can easily wield the zapper himself.
Nocturnowl
Member
whoops, guess I just expected the worst, i'm so sorry my friend!
I blame this cold of mine for clouding my judgement, grumble.
I wouldn't say I hate it, but the SNES soundtrack has pained a certain image for the levels. The GBA music doesn't match the image I have.
To compare, Rockface Rumble on the SNES.
Actually that could be a good Brawl song.
And the Hill Top Zone tune is pretty funky.
Nocturnowl
Member
GBA had a hard enough time trying to bring across any atmosphere with the previous 2 DKC games soundtracks, it's definitely a tonal shift for DKC3 GBA aside from a few themes like the caves and lake themes but i'd sooner have that shift instead of another botching of the SNES soundtracks, even if it means GBA Frosty Frolics which is all kinds of "why?".
If Rockface Rumble were in SSB they should look at this version for some ideas, put aside the OCRemix disdain for a sec BGBW, this one actually sticks close to the main melody.
If Rockface Rumble were in SSB they should look at this version for some ideas, put aside the OCRemix disdain for a sec BGBW, this one actually sticks close to the main melody.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
Probably because it's assumed that Japanese fans want him. It's not like anyone here asked for Marth, but in retrospect he was a pretty obvious choice.
Red Arremer
Member
Takamaru is considered a shoe-in mostly because there's been rumors for a remake of his game going on, he's made a cameo in Captain Rainbow (if that matters) and of course and most importantly, the Nintendo Land area that has been dedicated to him specifically exists.
Shadow Hog
Member
Do we know that Japanese fans want him, though? I mean, there's certainly evidence of Nintendo fanservice toward that end (Takamaru in Samurai Warriors 3 for the Wii, Takamaru getting his own minigame in NintendoLand, etc), but I don't go lurking on Japanese forums to know (mostly because I only really remember some basic words, sentence structure and hiragana/katakana from my attempt to learn the language).
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
When Snakey went to look at Japanese forums, he said he saw a lot of requests for Takamaru. I guess that's kind of anecdotal, though.
Shadow Hog
Member
When Zelda and Metroid were being developed simultaneously as major Famicom Disk System releases, R&D was also creating the smaller scale Kid Icarus using the Metroid engine and EAD was making the smaller scale Murasame Castle using the Zelda engine. With Link, Samus, and Pit in the game, it makes sense that Takamaru would come next to complete the "FDS Foursome." I don't think it hurts that Takamaru was recently featured in Samurai Warriors 3, Captain Rainbow, and Nintendo Land.
Green Mamba
Member
I certainly see where his potential as a newcomer is coming from, but the Smash fanbase talks as if he's almost certain, or a shoe in, to the point that it really does feel like groupthink at this point, an echo chamber.
And Snakey's bit of anecdotal evidence was that Takamaru was the most requested retro character, but he also said that retro character requests are not at all common, so I don't know if I would put too much stock into it.
I think we just need to pull back on the shoe in nonsense--there is no potential newcomer that I would say is a true shoe-in the way Wario, Diddy, and a Kirby newcomer were shoe-ins for Brawl. I would put this for Smash fanbase darlings Ridley, K.Rool, and Palutena as well. Remember how everyone was so certain that Zoroark would be in? Or some other Gen 5 rep? Not so likely anymore. Chrom? Does anyone actually even want him or is that another expectation based around a "pattern" of two data points?
There's this feeling I have, that when the game is finally revealed something will throw us all for a huge loop like Snake did for Brawl.
And Snakey's bit of anecdotal evidence was that Takamaru was the most requested retro character, but he also said that retro character requests are not at all common, so I don't know if I would put too much stock into it.
I think we just need to pull back on the shoe in nonsense--there is no potential newcomer that I would say is a true shoe-in the way Wario, Diddy, and a Kirby newcomer were shoe-ins for Brawl. I would put this for Smash fanbase darlings Ridley, K.Rool, and Palutena as well. Remember how everyone was so certain that Zoroark would be in? Or some other Gen 5 rep? Not so likely anymore. Chrom? Does anyone actually even want him or is that another expectation based around a "pattern" of two data points?
There's this feeling I have, that when the game is finally revealed something will throw us all for a huge loop like Snake did for Brawl.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Well, they were going to include Plustle and Minun until they were cut rather late in development. I'm hoping that we can get both
I agree 100%. Brawl was created as though it was the last game in the series, and so all of the characters that Sakurai felt were truly deserving were put on the roster. There are no "major" characters left for SSB4.
I really hope so, because all of the "likely" fan rosters going around are incredibly dull and predictable.
I've been feeling this way too. It's gonna be impossible to predict the roster now that I think about it... that is assuming Sakurai is gonna shake some things up.
Shadow Hog
Member
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I still hope Mega Man gets in though.
Haha yeah right. 
DICKS AHOY
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I don't really mind what SSB4 throws at us as long as Ridley, Little Mac and a 2nd F-Zero rep get their due credit. K. Rool, Palutena, etc. are just icing on the cake.
Also while I think unlike DKC1 which does have a number of pretty big flaws DKC3 is still objectively 'a good SNES platformer', I'd definitely place Elle and Kiddy's as cons. The former's gimmick is just boring while Kiddy was a pointless addition who brought nothing new. While Diddy being the star in DKC2 sort of made sense in the same way DKJr. being the star of... Erm, Donkey Kong Jr. did, Dixie getting top-billing was sort of weird and they'd of been better off focusing instead of letting you mix and match the previous three player Kongs. Scrap the Simon say's segments, replace Wrinkly with Cranky (also sucks his part is way diminished in DKC3) and redesign some of those derpier looking enemies and you'd have a game that starts to compare to DKC2/Returns.
Oh hey the thread is in a roster phase again? Here's mine! It leans a bit more towards the wishlisty side than the realistic, but I think all my choices are at least somewhat feasible.
Theres a few interesting choices but why in the world is Heracross there?
There's more iconic gen 2 pokemon then him.
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