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Nikkei: PSP2 to sport 3g connectivity, OLED touchscreen

Replicant said:
UGH. The white part makes the whole thing looks cheap. Not really keen on this design. Looks too much like PSPGo (which I loathe).

White part? (if you're talking about the lower left corner, it's a hole for the strap so it can be trendy and hang around your neck)
 
For those that don't know, that's a photoshopped Xperia Play picture with concave analog sticks taken from the new Monster Hunter PSP.

Binabik15 said:
That being said, how difficult/expensive/space wasting would analog buttons be? That´s one of the best things about Sony controllers, every controller not having analog buttons feels super cheap. The few games using it on PS2 were so much better for it.

No idea but I'd like that too.
 

Yoboman

Member
Replicant said:
UGH. The white part makes the whole thing looks cheap. Not really keen on this design. Looks too much like PSPGo (which I loathe).
What exactly is wrong with PSP Go's design?
 
Damn, well i atleast hope it's a fake based on an actual unit. And those who want it to be a clamshell i seriously doubt Sony is going to make a similar looking device as the DS. Besides there is nothing worth protecting if they make the screen from Gorilla Glass.

But wasn't the slider-style binned after some heat problems and the latest rumors say it's a brick-style like the PSP1000?
 
Noisepurge said:
Damn, well i atleast hope it's a fake based on an actual unit. And those who want it to be a clamshell i seriously doubt Sony is going to make a similar looking device as the DS. Besides there is nothing worth protecting if they make the screen from Gorilla Glass.

But wasn't the slider-style binned after some heat problems and the latest rumors say it's a brick-style like the PSP1000?

That's what I remember reading a month ago. In addition, there was also a murmur that Sony may have veered from the slider design due to the negative reception to the PSPGo (which really isn't fair to the system itself; Sony as a content provider fucked up).

That image has to be a fake -- I doubt Sony would have a stylus working on their capacitive touchscreen, let alone use the original size Memory Stick as a 'cart'. If they do go the cartridge route, it'll be Memory Stick-based, but with a more proprietary design.
 

offshore

Member
Noisepurge said:
But wasn't the slider-style binned after some heat problems and the latest rumors say it's a brick-style like the PSP1000?
Yeah apparently, which is a real shame, as a PSP1000-type design would really inhibit its uses as viable PMP alternative to the iTouch. I mean with Sony launching Music Unlimited, you'd think it would behoove Sony to model the PSP2 like a iPod when vertical, and slide out controls when playing games in horizontal.

But then this is Sony. But who knows, the thing is probably still six months away at least, so they might change it back to the sliding design and surprise us.
 
I believe this was the base image for that mockup.
QBDY8.jpg
 

Massa

Member
Blablurn said:
i mean, in terms of design. i mean, we saw a picture but i still remember the psp go and ps3 slim disaster.

The funny thing is that the PSP Go pictures were leaked by Sony themselves. :lol

Yoboman said:
What exactly is wrong with PSP Go's design?

It's the best designed gaming handheld ever made, so not much wrong with it.
 
Opus Angelorum said:
I wouldn't be surprised if a final design still hasn't been decided on.
I would be, they were originally planning on showing the PSP2 off at last year's E3, but delayed it when they found out about the 3DS. After all this time, it'd be crazy for them to not have a design.
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Is this so? Why would they do so? They could have spoiled the 3DS' unveiling by showing impressive footage of PS3-like games, instead they handed the show to Nintendo for a whole bunch of months.
 

Burai

shitonmychest57
Yoshi said:
Is this so? Why would they do so? They could have spoiled the 3DS' unveiling by showing impressive footage of PS3-like games, instead they handed the show to Nintendo for a whole bunch of months.

The difference is that the DS had enough momentum to not be killed by the announcement of it's successor. The PSP? Not so much.
 

Effect

Member
I always hated that the screen on the PSP wasn't protected. I keep hoping they'll address this with a new model but something tells me they won't.
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Burai said:
The difference is that the DS had enough momentum to not be killed by the announcement of it's successor. The PSP? Not so much.
That could be a reason to not announce it at all at E3, but not a reason to pull it from the show when Nintendo announces the 3DS.
 
One of the good things about OLED is the lack of a backlight. So like a plasma it will be very easy on the eyes. The PSP and iphone made my eyes feel kind of sore.
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Effect said:
I always hated that the screen on the PSP wasn't protected. I keep hoping they'll address this with a new model but something tells me they won't.

I'm sure screen tech has come along a bit since 2004, and exposed screens are mostly the norm these days. I dunno if it's hyperbole, but reading reviews of that gorilla glass stuff, people took knives to it and stuff and apparently couldn't make a scratch. It's been used in a variety of mobile devices already, so it might be a possibility for PSP2.
 
You know those dreams you have after you've woken up and then go back to bed? (They are never as good as a proper full length dream). I had one this morning where it turned out all of this info we've been hearing is wrong. I woke up feeling slightly panicked. How sad. haha.
 
Graphics Horse said:
I believe this was the base image for that mockup.
http://i.imgur.com/QBDY8.jpg

Most likely, although some features such as the hole for the strap and the lights are unique not found in previous models. I still believe this is a mockup of the real design ;D

gofreak said:
I dunno if it's hyperbole, but reading reviews of that gorilla glass stuff, people took knives to it and stuff and apparently couldn't make a scratch. It's been used in a variety of mobile devices already, so it might be a possibility for PSP2.

it should be a standard in all handheld devices, i love my Droid for not having to use crappy screen protector plastics. And it really does withstand the abuse from my keychain and everything.
 
Galvanise_ said:
You know those dreams you have after you've woken up and then go back to bed? (They are never as good as a proper full length dream). I had one this morning where it turned out all of this info we've been hearing is wrong. I woke up feeling slightly panicked. How sad. haha.

i have a funny feeling that none of us are going to be 100% satisfied. there are going to be some trade offs i bet.
 
Noisepurge said:
Most likely, although some features such as the hole for the strap and the lights are unique not found in previous models. I still believe this is a mockup of the real design ;D

Well the leaked dev photos didn't look miles away from that design, it depends on how true the rumour of them dropping the slide is.
The strap hole, speakers and other buttons are modified or directly lifted from a PSP 3000.

Rollo Larson said:
i have a funny feeling that none of us are going to be 100% satisfied. there are going to be some trade offs i bet.

No doubt.
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
DieH@rd said:
We known nothing. Even rumors are not consistent. :D

They've been fairly consistent on Q4/end-of-year. Nikkei says the same. But who knows, and who knows what territory or territories that would apply to.


Rollo Larson said:
i have a funny feeling that none of us are going to be 100% satisfied. there are going to be some trade offs i bet.

Indeed... everything is a set of trade offs and compromises, just hope in the end the package overall is 'good'.
 

Jinko

Member
Of course its guna be a brick design, so in 12-18 months they can get you all to buy the revision with a slide screen.
 

Xater

Member
Noisepurge said:
But then it should be a bigass brick indeed:
http://www.todellisuus.net/~malakai/random/psp2brick.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

That might be one of the worst mock ups I have ever seen.
 
Relaxed Muscle said:
That's closer to wishful thinking than anything. $299 it's possible, without taking a huge loss and even turning a small profit?

Yeah, no. (with the rumored specs anyway)

Okay then, what components in he base PSP model are going to inflate the bom more than $100 above iPhone4?

If Sony sell the thing for $300, then there's no way they make a significant loss on hardware.
 

xtop

Member
SolidPain said:
Sorry guys if this has been posted, it is from a french website.

http://translate.google.fr/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.01net.com%2Feditorial%2F527269%2Fdecouvrez-la-configuration-de-la-psp-2-en-avant-premiere%2F&act=url

I don't know how credible it is but they talk in more details
I think so
about the specifications of the PSP2.

specs are in line with everything i've expected of the psp2. assuming true
 

Elios83

Member
Noisepurge said:
But then it should be a bigass brick indeed:
psp2brick.jpg

That looks familiar:

GameboyBurned.jpg


XD jokes aside I still hope that the console is as much portable as possible, that is it's not a long brick ^^'
 

xtop

Member
sajj316 said:
Can someone post the specs from this website as I don't have access @ work (busy day ... )

np.

Size: PSP 2 should be less broad but more "high" that the PSP's first name. For the record, the latter showed the dimensions of 17 cm wide by 7.4 cm in height and 2.3 cm thick approximately.
The craft will be imposing, and, according to our sources, he "does not fit into a pocket." Of course, on the back side of the PSP2, we found the touchpad which we told you about last February. No accuracy we have not yet been made about his weight.

Ergonomics: the PSP 2 will have the usual four buttons, two triggers (L and R), a directional pad and above - finally! - Two analog sticks. The presence of a single analog stick was a recurring criticism addressed to the first PSP.
Besides the buttons, the PSP 2 will also offer touch capabilities, both on screen and on the back (trackpad). These surfaces, multipoint tolerate up to six simultaneous pressure points!

Screen: The PSP 2 will incorporate a screen of 5 inches (12.7 cm) Type OLED, probably Sony, but not sure yet. A comfortable size which seems confirmed by our sources, more so than the 4.3 inches (slightly less than 11 cm) of the original screen.

Display resolution: it should be four times that of the PSP, or 960 x 544 pixels. The proportions of the first PSP (which showed 480 x 272 pixels) were retained, suggesting that the console could integrate an emulator for older games.
The inside of the beast

Processor (CPU): it is based on ARM Cortex A-9 customized by Sony. This quad-core processor may contain a Neon Media Processing Engine (MPE) to accelerate audio and video decompression, but also to improve the performance of floating-point (floating point unit, or FPU). In short, a solution "high performance" and cost in terms of energy consumption, a figure central to a portable console.

Graphics processor (GPU): a PowerVR SGX 543 MP4 +. A quad-core GPU with 128 MB of VRAM (video memory, to be confirmed). This is the first time we see a powerful GPU on a portable machine. We do not yet know the meaning of "+" reference, but we assume it means a specific customized to Sony.
This processor includes pipelines for unified shaders (pixel and vertex, 3D display modes), which should provide greater flexibility and GPU programming. The PowerVR architecture is very different from that adopted by Nvidia and ATI, the two major manufacturers of graphics chips today. It is designed to work in parallel by dividing the areas of the screen. It also includes material management of texture compression and hardware specialist performing the work of a Zbuffer (algorithm eliminating non-visible parts to ease calculation).
For the record, Apple seems to predict, according to the latest rumors, to equip the same type of chip 5 and the iPhone the next generation of iPad. The only difference is that the Cupertino company has opted for a version MP2, so with two hearts only.

RAM: development kits contain 1 GB of RAM. Nevertheless, and in order to run a code not yet optimized, these kits usually include twice more RAM than the retail version. So one might think that the PSP 2 will comprise the final 512 MB of RAM, type LPDDR2 (low consumption), cons for the first 32 MB and 64 MB for PSP PSP GB

Memory storage: the PSP 2 would retain it seems the storage capacity of the PSP Go, namely 16 GB of flash memory. Of course, it will propose an SD card reader and SDHC.
To fight against piracy, we can imagine that Sony will force users to enable online games. In the case of a 3G connection, the Japanese company will then enter into an agreement with the telephone operators. To be confirmed.

Connectivity: The PSP 2 will focus clearly on the wireless. It will offer a module for Wi-Fi and one for 3G. According to our sources, it is also possible to connect the PSP 2 Internet connection sharing - via Bluetooth in all likelihood - with a PlayStation Phone. Of course, these connections enable you to download games from PlayStation Network.

Sound: no certainty for now, we assume that the management of his is included in the CPU (through the function MSE), connected to a digital-analog converter (DAC).

Hardware integrated GPS, gyroscope (doubt is cast by some of our sources do not support this feature), accelerometer, microphone, front and rear cameras.

edit: this is through google translate
 
gofreak said:
They've been fairly consistent on Q4/end-of-year. Nikkei says the same. But who knows, and who knows what territory or territories that would apply to.
the only thing that makes me suspect otherwise is the whole debacle with the PS3 release date. Sony were certainly claiming it was going to be out a lot sooner after the 360 than it really was to try to keep people on the fence for as long as possible.

i don't think they'd try to do that again, but i also can't rule it out.

Indeed... everything is a set of trade offs and compromises, just hope in the end the package overall is 'good'.
yep. i want to buy two awesome handhelds this year each with it's own strengths.
 
Noisepurge said:
But then it should be a bigass brick indeed:
psp2brick.jpg

Haha, I can imagine the looks you would get playing that haha... beautifully hideous, it would have to have a built in cold fusion reactor to get away with that look

Not sure about the source though...sounds like they have been reading Gaf wishlists
 

spwolf

Member
i just realised that i don't want to see PSP games on a screen bigger than the GO's. if i want to make them look pixelly and massive i'll do it on my TV and play them with a dual shock 3, but for portable use, that GO screen is perfect.

i'm totally going to have to get a man purse or a holster or that jacket.

edit: or let me play them 1:1.
 

Spiegel

Member
sajj316 said:
Can someone post the specs from this website as I don't have access @ work (busy day ... )

- Dimensions: 17X7.4X2.3 cm
- 5" OLED multi-touch screen (12.7 cm)
- Multi-touch trackpad
- Resolution: 960 x 544
- Quad core ARM Cortex A-9
- PowerVR SGX 543 MP4+
- 512MB LPDDR2 RAM (1GB devkits)
- 16GB flash + SD slot
- Wifi, 3G, bluetooth
- Acelerometers, GPS, gyroscope, front and back camera
 

onken

Member
xtop said:

Hum no mention about physical media, which is the only major unknown at this point. 512mb RAM sounds about right to me.

Router said:
http://www.01net.com/images/article/567193.jpg[img]

I like it but it still looks too uncomfortable.[/QUOTE]

Gotta dig those sticks though. God I hate that awful PSP nub, even if it was in a better position.
 
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