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Nintendo needs to milk the hell out of HD remasters on Switch
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ultratruman
Banned
Nintendo needs new games
Because the game is literally designed around motion controls.
lightskintwin
Banned
I don't think anybody disagrees, however, a relatively cheap way to increase their library in between their gaps of new games is to fill them with HD remasters. Have a 3rd party studio dedicated to this task.
My thoughts exactly. Perfect way to fill gaps and keep us interested.
DrROBschiz
Member
OMG guys
Nintendo doesnt need to do this themselves
They can do what everyone else does and sub it out or put new blood that needs to get their feet wet on it
Creating a persistent ecosystem of old games does not equal the destruction of creating new ones
Nintendo needs both! With their home/portable divisions consolidated, certainly they could put their B-team / interns on profitable HD remasters. Or farm them out. As the OP's screen shots show, the art style of many of their titles looks great with a simple resolution bump.
But... does anyone know how Wii-based games with pointer controls would work? The camera (at the bottom) of the joycon I don't think is designed to point at the screen. There appears to be no port on the switch dock for a tv sensor either.
No analogues for Gamecube, no pointer for Wii... I suppose the B-team would have some redesign issues to solve for each title.
RareFantasy64
Member
I agree 100% with the OP. Fill in spaces between new releases with HD remasters of N64, GCN and Wii games
I need Galaxy HD. I need Prime Trilogy HD.
I need Galaxy HD. I need Prime Trilogy HD.
I think there's so much they can add to older games, portables in particular, to make them fresh again. Gameboy games could be given GBC colour schemes, rumble, 3D support, and updated control schemes. Link's Awakening DX with the shield, power bracelet, and pegasus boots assigned to the shoulder buttons, and the sword to the b button would fix nearly every flaw I have with that game.
Newer games from the DS era could have their online content restored and analogue stick controls implemented, saving games like Super Mario 64 DS from the restraints of the original hardware. Although I suppose there will always be problems with games that rely on specific hardware features, like the dual screens.
Buying a remastered Paper Mario game gets you something good like TTYD, buying an all-new game gets you trash like Sticker Star.
Clearly. All those Zelda games are remasters, only Fire Emblem is a remake. I'm not familiar with SF643D, I don't know if it's just an updated N64 port or a remake.
Newer games from the DS era could have their online content restored and analogue stick controls implemented, saving games like Super Mario 64 DS from the restraints of the original hardware. Although I suppose there will always be problems with games that rely on specific hardware features, like the dual screens.
Buying a remastered Paper Mario game gets you something good like TTYD, buying an all-new game gets you trash like Sticker Star.
Clearly. All those Zelda games are remasters, only Fire Emblem is a remake. I'm not familiar with SF643D, I don't know if it's just an updated N64 port or a remake.
Davey Cakes
Member
I also believe that Nintendo would find moderate success and build a lot of fan goodwill by doing more HD remasters. It does "make too much sense" and Nintendo is sometimes terrible at doing what seems obvious.
That said, it's also a matter of resources. Over the years I've always been willing to call Nintendo out on not taking certain initiatives but I've also come to terms with the fact that they're not a massive company and that they're very modest about expanding.
Just getting M2 and NERD on Virtual Console has been huge. We can't forget Tantalus on HD ports such as Twilight Princess. But, it's not enough to pump out a ridiculous amount of titles. They still have to pick and choose.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Or they could simply release GameCube titles on VC.
Their home and portable divisions are not consolidated.
lightskintwin
Banned
I would not be interested in playing these games emulated at their original specs.
I mean the least they can do is port and up the resolution and framerates to their first party Wii U games.
Give me definitive versions of N64, GC, Wii, WiiU, and 3DS for the ultimate console/handheld hybrid. It would be a must buy for gamers.
Jubenhimer
Member
Please, no. I'd rather Nintendo focus giving us new games and new experiences, instead of trying to rehash their past as much as possible. HD remasters and re-releases are fine in moderation, but don't make them a major focus. I don't want the Switch to become a Nintendo port machine.
clem84
Gold Member
If it helps Nintendo being successful, then yes, I hope they do it. Personally, I don't have much interest in them.
Except 2 on your list I would want.
- XBC. OMG absolutely. I would play it completely all over again.
- F-Zero GX. A better looking version of an already perfect game. Yes please!
Except 2 on your list I would want.
- XBC. OMG absolutely. I would play it completely all over again.
- F-Zero GX. A better looking version of an already perfect game. Yes please!
HYDE
Banned
And a proper Super Mario 64 3D with no holding any buttons to run bullshit.
omgwtfbentime
Member
I would be happy if they outsourced some of these but id also be equally happy if they just rereleased GameCube and Wii games as is on Switch Virtual Console and charged like $15 a pop. Especially on a 6.2" LCD these would look nice enough. Maybe repurpose some Wii games with slightly modified control schemes but they don't need to be fully upscaled.
ieptbarakat
Member
Considering I skipped the Wii/WiiU/3DS, there are plenty of games that I'd buy if they were to get an HD version.
Zelda OOT3D,MM3D,LBW,WWHD,TPHD (Hell just make a new collector's edition)
DKCR 1-2
Mario Galaxy 1-2, 3D Land/World, Super Paper Mario
Pokemon everything
Metroid Prime Trilogy again
With the new portable platform they could have a division solely for porting/updating the last two generations of first party titles and still be profitable.
Think of it like future proofing and Steam, games shouldn't end with their system.
Zelda OOT3D,MM3D,LBW,WWHD,TPHD (Hell just make a new collector's edition)
DKCR 1-2
Mario Galaxy 1-2, 3D Land/World, Super Paper Mario
Pokemon everything
Metroid Prime Trilogy again
With the new portable platform they could have a division solely for porting/updating the last two generations of first party titles and still be profitable.
Think of it like future proofing and Steam, games shouldn't end with their system.
GuitarGuruu
Member
I thought Wii U had too many HD remasters..
Kacho
Member
I'd love to see remasters of Skyward Sword, Mario Galaxy, and the Metroid Prime for sure. MAN I hope we get an HD remaster of Skyward Sword at the very least. It would be a lot of work but if they found a way to make it work without motion controls and cut back on the hand-holdy stuff it would be much better game IMO.
I'd also like to see Nintendo release most of the games they put out on Wii U on the Switch. Not many people got a chance to play them so it would be nice if they were given another shot on the Switch.
I'd also like to see Nintendo release most of the games they put out on Wii U on the Switch. Not many people got a chance to play them so it would be nice if they were given another shot on the Switch.
Melee HD sounds great but the game would have to be near perfect to get the fans to migrate? I'm not sure too sure about that tbh. Could sell quite a bit, but the moment people hear it as being a "bad" port, it's pretty much done isn't it. Maybe just virtual console port
also i'd rather get new games, thanks
also i'd rather get new games, thanks
Sure, let's keep playing the xbox360/ps3/wii generation games over and over again until we lose our fucking minds.
NEW GAMES, NEW IPS FOR FUCKS SAKE.
Splatoon is singlehandedly the best thing Nintendo has done in decades software wise because its a new game, with original gameplay, based in a new ip. It's been not even 2 years since it came out and it's among Nintendo classic franchises, they're even in Mario Kart now!
We need more risks and original games like this. More stuff like ARMS, stop with the rehashing already.
NEW GAMES, NEW IPS FOR FUCKS SAKE.
Splatoon is singlehandedly the best thing Nintendo has done in decades software wise because its a new game, with original gameplay, based in a new ip. It's been not even 2 years since it came out and it's among Nintendo classic franchises, they're even in Mario Kart now!
We need more risks and original games like this. More stuff like ARMS, stop with the rehashing already.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Yes, they are. This plan was put into motion like four years ago.
Kacho
Member
Remasters don't stop this from happening. They help fill gaps and give people who may have missed them before a chance to play them. Relax.
Old ports or new games... why not both? I seriously don't think a company like Nintendo with the vast reserves of cash at their disposal would find it all that difficult to get remasters made, most likely via outsourcing. They would obviously pay for themselves and make a tidy profit, which is extra money they can pump back into all those new games people want so badly. Ports will do little, if any harm at all to the timescales for future games!
Tevious
Member
This would actually get me to buy a switch.
The GameCube sure made a number on people, strangely Eternal Darkness was omitted in this case.
While I understand the others, I still don't get people wanting Melee HD.
The same way? By the looks of it the Joy-Con can fill the role.
While I understand the others, I still don't get people wanting Melee HD.
The same way? By the looks of it the Joy-Con can fill the role.
Jorok Goldblade
Member
Plus besides being relatively cheap to make, these games can also be fairly dependable sellers. This gives them more reliable capital to invest in or cushion losses from riskier new game projects.
McGruber21
Member
Not that they are logical, but the only logical way to do Gamecube VC on the Switch is to release a set of Gamecube Joy-Cons with analog triggers, a tiny d pad and the works.
I only remember the Zelda remasters.
Dark Cloud
Member
jukeboxzer0
Neo Member
For the love of god, give me the Super Mario Sunshine HD
PolarBearsClub
Member
Melee HD with online is such a crazy no-brainer I am extremely confident Nintendo will never do it.
Wolfgang Jr
Banned
HD and make ALL games payable without motion controls.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Metroid Prime Trilogy in HD with twin stick shooting sells itself. Million copies or more easily.
Benzychenz
Member
Twin stick shooting when you can detach the joycons and use gyro aiming? Gross.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
I don't mind HD remasters, but I don't think Nintendo needs to do that. Just keep on focusing on new games and VC and throw a random HD remaster here and there and I'm good with that.
Rather than straight-up HD ports, I'd be more interested in an F-Zero GX "remaster" with extras. An F-Zero GX 1.5 where the original game is the "expert" mode and a more forgiving, easier play style is also available so beginnners aren't so alienated by the game. Add a new set of tracks and a decent marketing campaign and it'll sell gangbusters!
Basically, the GX engine is perfect and doesn't need serious changes, and many of the environments are beautiful as is. HD texture upgrades probably mean the work of a whole new game, though.
I just want more fzero
Basically, the GX engine is perfect and doesn't need serious changes, and many of the environments are beautiful as is. HD texture upgrades probably mean the work of a whole new game, though.
I just want more fzero
ScientificPizza
Banned
I would buy all of those, but I don't want these at the cost of new things
Skyward Sword would be great, but it's hard to divorce that game from motion controls
Skyward Sword would be great, but it's hard to divorce that game from motion controls
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
I never thought of that but still you have to cater to the traditional console shooter group.